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206gt160 · Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

I bleed the breaks on my 206 gti all the time and have never once used pp2000. Just use the ezi bleed kit £20 connect that to the brake filler bottle and also a spare tyre with around 15-20 psi. Fill the ezi bleed up with brake fluid. Once you have done this go to the rear r/h brake bleed nipple and connect a bleed tube. Then unscrew the bleed nipple. Wait till the fluid is running air bubble free then tighten the nipple. Top up the ezi bleed with more brake fluid and then do the same with rear l/h, front r/h and front l/h in that order. Making sure to top up the ezi bleed between each brake.
Never once used pp2000

gtijames22 · Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

Steve206 wrote:

Only if you let air in! The abs pump is closed for bleeding, unless you use pp to open it. It can be done without it.

bashyy1 · Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

Okay thanks for that guys.

Steve do you mean "It CAN'T be done without?"

Steve206 · Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

Only if you let air in! The abs pump is closed for bleeding, unless you use pp to open it. It can be done without it.

broadblaster · Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

pads look ok but discs seem to be getting down (quite a lip on outer edge).
DO NOT reuse the old fluid allway use new (it should be changed every 2 yrs anyway)
you need the software to actervate the abs pump so it purges all the air out of the system.

bashyy1 · Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

Heres a pic of the disc anyways, if anyone can confirm they need changing:

I can try it, but can someone tell me WHY exactly you need the software if you do, I'm dealing with brakes so I can't get this wrong.

Also can't I just re-fil it with the fluid I've taken out or does it need to be new?

Conners300983 · Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

Gunsons eezibleed clicky

Get yourself one of these, I'm'm 99.9% sure this will work without the software, make sure you buy a bottle of brake fluid with it as you'll need to keep the level topped up or you'll create more problems. There's instructions in the box and I'm sure if you shop about you'll pick it up a bit cheaper

bashyy1 · Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

I'd like to try bleeding the brakes as first port of call but that means buying PP2000 at around £100. I think it's silly you need software just to bleed the brake system, surely it's possible to do it without?

I can get a picture of the rear discs if you want yeah.

Conners300983 · Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

At a guess yes, can you post a picture?

Lecktorious · Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

bashyy1 wrote:

Okay thanks mate

I'd like to fix it myself really, I just have a hard time deciding what things to check/change first.

When I rub my fingers over the rear discs they don't feel smooth like the fronts do. It's like a very slight bumpy/rough texture. Does that mean they need replacing?

The rear brakes do hardly any work so I wouldn't bother unless they are excessively corroded or pitted and your MOT is soon.

Still sounds like you have air in the system somewhere, I'd rule that out first before starting on anything else.

bashyy1 · Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

Okay thanks mate

I'd like to fix it myself really, I just have a hard time deciding what things to check/change first.

When I rub my fingers over the rear discs they don't feel smooth like the fronts do. It's like a very slight bumpy/rough texture. Does that mean they need replacing?

Conners300983 · Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

If your saying there's a bit of meat left on the pads, personally I'd start with a fluid change, maybe take it to your local garage if your not confident doing it yourself, a competent mechanic should do it in half an hour so it shouldn't be expensive. Is there any groves in your discs? This can often be a tell tale sign your pads are shot.

bashyy1 · Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

Guys, I'm not sure where to start... my brakes are just not as responsive as they were a few weeks ago, pedal has to pushed further and harder.

To me the pads look OK (the rears a lot more worn that the fronts) through the wheel but I'm no mechanic, what can I try, shall i just change them to rule them out of a possible cause?

Any help appreciated

Kale · Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

Yeah, I have PP2000, but didn't have it with me at the time I was bleeding the brakes. And I was doing it by myself with a vacuum brake bleeder.

I once checked that bleeding routine on PP2000.. it takes forever to get through Very Happy

and you can't back up from it once it's started.

Timon2210 · Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding 180

It's better to have the PP2000 ,as it will make this job easier,and it tells you which wheel to bleed,and that prevent any damage to the ABS pump :),this is actually a 2 ppl job,if you don't anything to pressure the system.