#106: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:25 am ---- No way lambos are better than ferraris
#107: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / TurkeyPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:35 pm ----
Edward wrote:
|SGP| wrote:
So if I bought a 180 and I bought a 138, and tuned them both with the same parts, the 138 would be better?
Yes, simply because you'd have spent less to get to the same place. It's also easier to do the 138 because there's no VVT to play with.
Funny. Give an example.
#108: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:38 pm ----
no_offences wrote:
nar 138 owners dont think their better, and people who have modded them dont think their better either, if you got that from all those comments i think your analytical skills need a brush up, if you own a 138 and cant admit a 180s better your dumb simple
My analytical skills, lol. Most if not all the 138 owners that have posted here DO think their cars are better than the 180. So by your definition there's a lot of dumb 138 owners out there.
#109: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:45 pm ---- Lets face it there both shiit cars
Schumi wrote:
Edward wrote:
|SGP| wrote:
So if I bought a 180 and I bought a 138, and tuned them both with the same parts, the 138 would be better?
Yes, simply because you'd have spent less to get to the same place. It's also easier to do the 138 because there's no VVT to play with.
Funny. Give an example.
And im sure Jamie's would have been Faster and more Reliable if they could have managed with the VVT and he kept interest in it,, and i bet he would have spent far less too
#110: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: lofty, Location: Near ManchesterPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:10 pm ----
E5GDM wrote:
no_offences wrote:
nar 138 owners dont think their better, and people who have modded them dont think their better either, if you got that from all those comments i think your analytical skills need a brush up, if you own a 138 and cant admit a 180s better your dumb simple
My analytical skills, lol. Most if not all the 138 owners that have posted here DO think their cars are better than the 180. So by your definition there's a lot of dumb 138 owners out there.
No Offences left a decent post.
How many times do we have to say the 180 is better overall BUT ITS JUST NOT JUSTIFIED IN THE PRICE??!!!
It has very little to do with the actual performance!
Every 138 owner will agree with you on this. Its the 180 boys who simply say 'Oh its got a bit more poke and some extra trim so its worth every penny'. I still disagree. I made an informed choice to NOT buy a 180 because the price difference was a joke for basically the same car.
Also to the guy who handpicked a whole 2 cars to compare - well done.
I think we've all been here long enough to know what a 138 and a 180 goes for. You just picked one overpriced 138 and one underpriced(abused?) 180.
#111: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:15 pm ---- People will pay more for a 180 'because
Newer car
More likely less miles
More power overall
Better handling
More Standard extras
Better Interiour
Better looking!? Rear End, Slighty Lower?
#112: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: lofty, Location: Near ManchesterPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:19 pm ----
Mattie-VTs wrote:
People will pay more for a 180 'because
Newer car
More likely less miles
More power overall
Better handling
More Standard extras
Better Interiour
Better looking!? Rear End, Slighty Lower?
I agree. The main reason for me 'upgrading' to a 180 was to have a new car with less miles and not have to 'waste' money by adding a spoiler and CC'd bits to my car.
If I saw a 180 going super cheap and got decent dollar for mine I would still go for it!
(I'm sure this will confuse the blinkered views of some that see everything in black and white)!
#113: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:50 pm ----
E5GDM wrote:
My analytical skills, lol. Most if not all the 138 owners that have posted here DO think their cars are better than the 180.
I don't think 138 owners do think the car is better than the 180, they just seem to be aware that the 180 is a mildly tuned version of it...there is no night and day difference.
Mattie-VTs wrote:
And im sure Jamie's would have been Faster and more Reliable if they could have managed with the VVT and he kept interest in it,, and i bet he would have spent far less too
That's just it though, it wouldn't have cost less because everything that makes the 180 different to the 138 would have been thrown away. It would still need head work, a new exhaust and manifold, cams and throttle bodies. The VVT would give a slight torque advantage but if it's hard to get it to work then that also makes it more expensive.
#114: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: no_offences, Location: LeedsPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:27 pm ----
lofty wrote:
E5GDM wrote:
no_offences wrote:
nar 138 owners dont think their better, and people who have modded them dont think their better either, if you got that from all those comments i think your analytical skills need a brush up, if you own a 138 and cant admit a 180s better your dumb simple
My analytical skills, lol. Most if not all the 138 owners that have posted here DO think their cars are better than the 180. So by your definition there's a lot of dumb 138 owners out there.
No Offences left a decent post.
How many times do we have to say the 180 is better overall BUT ITS JUST NOT JUSTIFIED IN THE PRICE??!!!
It has very little to do with the actual performance!
Every 138 owner will agree with you on this. Its the 180 boys who simply say 'Oh its got a bit more poke and some extra trim so its worth every penny'. I still disagree. I made an informed choice to NOT buy a 180 because the price difference was a joke for basically the same car.
Also to the guy who handpicked a whole 2 cars to compare - well done.
I think we've all been here long enough to know what a 138 and a 180 goes for. You just picked one overpriced 138 and one underpriced(abused?) 180.
i was thinking that, best test would be pick one from the year they both came out in decent nick
#115: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: gti180boy, Location: StaffordPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:32 pm ---- iv never owned a 206 gti 138 model but have drove meny of them and to be truthfull there is not alot between them really as speed go's but deffo the interior is alot better and handling is better and wheels
so really for me i go for gti 180 just because feel better to drive and nicer interior.
if they would of done a limited 206 gti 138 with the same spec suspention and interior i would gone for this over 206 gti 180.
regards
kyle
#116: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:36 pm ----
lofty wrote:
How many times do we have to say the 180 is better overall BUT ITS JUST NOT JUSTIFIED IN THE PRICE??!!!
The point of this thread turned into what was the better Gti, I'm glad you agree it's the 180. So the price is a separate issue & just means wether you can afford it or not. God knows where you guys look for prices, as my 180 is an 03 with 26k with full history & worth about £2000 even with morrete's & most of the SP parts (I paid £3000 about 18 months ago), & is worth every penny that it may cost over the top of a 138.
#117: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: t110jim, Location: invernessPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:40 pm ---- how many 138 drivers have driven a 180 over a period of time ??
#118: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: lofty, Location: Near ManchesterPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:42 pm ---- I think if you read back through the posts mate you will see I have said all along I would prefer the 180 - You've not somehow managed to make us give in to your way of thinking??
It was all about if it was WORTH choosing the 180 over a 138.
#119: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: t110jim, Location: invernessPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:54 pm ---- my poit exactly how would you know
#120: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: t110jim, Location: invernessPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:01 pm ---- sorry about the spelling mistake but if you read the start of the topic the member in question was looking for advice!!!
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