#1: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: mosimo, Location: Lincoln, UKPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:21 pm ---- First off: 206 GTi 138, w reg (2000), orange
Yesterday both my bulbs for my dipped lights decided to blow at the same time. Got some new ones today and put them in, working fine now. Was a big struggle to get them in as to get the back off the light housing is a pain in the ass. But I got them in eventually.
Problem is.. Now the car won't actually start. The engine will turn, but it just won't fire. I've checked the fuses under the bonnet and under the cab, all seem fine as far as I can see. The big red button near the battery has been pressed. the battery seems fine, it's not struggling to attempt to start. Everything else in the car seems fine. Nothing is frozen (far as i can tell). I've checked all the wires I can see, nothing is loose, all plugged in.
Not had chance to try and bump start it as 1. It's pitch black outside, 2. too icy to push where I live, 3. Nobody to help push :/
So yea.. any ideas on this are welcome. Hopefully sooner rather than later otherwise I'm fooked for work tomorrow.
#2: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: Mikey2uk, Location: StevenagePosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:29 pm ---- Sounds like you may of hit the fuel cut of switch if its turning over but not starting, some one will correct me if Im wrong
#3: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:30 pm ---- sounds like either the fuel cut off switch or the immob cutting in mate
#4: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: mosimo, Location: Lincoln, UKPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:38 pm ---- Pressed the button for the fuel cut off switch, still nothing. If it's the immobilizer what can I do to turn it off or at least find out for sure if it is that?
#5: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: Mikey2uk, Location: StevenagePosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:39 pm ---- Have you got a spare key? Try that as it could be the transponder in the key
#6: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:40 pm ---- check the chip is fixed inside the key for one.Ill be honest it sounds like the fuel cut off but i never knew how to reset it anyway!
#7: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:41 pm ---- i suppose you could have flooded the engine aswell.
#8: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: kieron, Location: in the housePosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:42 pm ---- try locking and unlocking on the fob? fuel cut of will only cut in if the car has a bump im sure it cannot be nocked by accident. the immob stops it sparking
is your pump priming when the key is turned?
#9: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: Alan_206HDi, Location: Hatfield Heath, HertsPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:54 pm ---- Plug the headlights in properly...
#10: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: mosimo, Location: Lincoln, UKPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:55 pm ---- Key seems fine. Chip is seated alright and central locking works. Alarm beeps when I press the 2nd button (1st time I've ever actually pressed that button). Don't have a 2nd key to try. When I turn the ignition on I can hear the fuel pump prime or whatever you call it.
#11: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:33 pm ---- Check all your earth straps, do your new bulbs light?
#12: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:18 pm ---- check all the fuses again. I blew one and it didn't start until i found and replaced it
#13: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: mosimo, Location: Lincoln, UKPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:38 pm ---- This is a nightmare now.the new bulbs work.I've taken out every fuse I can find and checked them and they are ask fine. been doing this in the dark with a small torch, tomorrow il get chance to look whenit's light.
What is there behind our around the back of the light cases that I could have touched which could possibly cause this?
Btw phone keyboards suck for posting with. But thanks your all your help do far guys.
#14: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:42 pm ---- have you checked the fuses in the engine bay and under the steering wheel? At the end of the coil pack there is a little cap. if you take that off and try to start it a bit of petrol should squirt out. this will confirm the car has fuel and its the immobilisr stopping the car from starting. Unless no fuel comes out but it seems like an immobiliser problem to me.
#15: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: mosimo, Location: Lincoln, UKPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:51 am ---- All fuses are fine under the steering wheel + in the engine bay.
Just checked and fuel is coming out, so the pump is working. Seems like the last thing then is the immobiliser. Anything I can do to bypass it or is a *eurgh* peugeot jobby + reprogram?
#16: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: mosimo, Location: Lincoln, UKPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:10 am ---- Pro Tip: playing in the fusebox in the dark with a dodgy torch = bad.
I'm not sure how it happened but the Fuse for the BSI, a 5A one in slot 5 had got moved to the spare slot 4. Not sure how I managed to do that as the light fuses are 2 rows down and are 10A ones. But for some reason I must have taken that one out to test it. I know I took it out after the thing wouldn't start, but before that is beyond me.
Anyway, the thing fires now and everything works. I'm glad nobody answered the phone at the garage yesterday meaning I was waiting for Monday to ring back
Cheers for your help on this one guys. o/
#17: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:10 pm ---- same problem as me then. even though it was the the same fuse it was for some minor electrical, boot bulb i think. replaced it and it started
#18: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: DAVEY3478, Location: SUNDERLANDPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:48 am ---- Have you definately not flooded the engine mate, you havent started engine on a cold morning then changed your mind and turned it straight off because that can flood the engine.
#19: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:29 am ----
DAVEY3478 wrote:
Have you definately not flooded the engine mate, you havent started engine on a cold morning then changed your mind and turned it straight off because that can flood the engine.
Shouldnt do on a 206, its not got Japanese mapping for coldstart warmup cycle in the ecu
#20: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: parker81, Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:58 pm ---- i have the exact same probably with my car its a 2001 1.1 replaced the convertion kit with standard bulbs ready for the mot, been rackin my brain for almost a week now. scanning the net all over the forums checking the wiring loom replacing sensors, changing coils pack checking fuses even had the rac scrathing their brain boxes over it next step is the immobiliser as a last resort. been told that a local garage will only 40 quid to take the bloody thing off
#21: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: Tiago, Location: CambridgeshirePosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:52 am ---- I had a starting problem when I shorted the boot light by accident, it blows the one of the fuses which is linked to the fuel pump. Stupid really but always worth checking.
#22: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:32 pm ----
Rob2859 wrote:
At the end of the coil pack there is a little cap. if you take that off and try to start it a bit of petrol should squirt out. this will confirm the car has fuel and its the immobilisr stopping the car from starting.
I think you mean the fuel rail and it's in the middle. Pressing the schraeder valve will just confirm there is fuel in the rail. It won't show if it's under pressure and it won't prove if the injectors are firing or not.
#23: Re: Changed 2 bulbs now the car won't fire. Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:19 pm ----
Edward wrote:
Rob2859 wrote:
At the end of the coil pack there is a little cap. if you take that off and try to start it a bit of petrol should squirt out. this will confirm the car has fuel and its the immobilisr stopping the car from starting.
I think you mean the fuel rail and it's in the middle. Pressing the schraeder valve will just confirm there is fuel in the rail. It won't show if it's under pressure and it won't prove if the injectors are firing or not.
I did mean the rail. I realise now that I was a bit out. That was some time ago
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