#1: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: Ruraidh206Brown, Location: GirvanPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:27 pm ---- hey guys...my brake lights keep coming on even when im not touching the brake pebal???
#2: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: Dabamash, Location: The car in frontPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:28 pm ---- If they stay on, the plug under the steering wheel has come out.
#3: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: Ruraidh206Brown, Location: GirvanPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:30 pm ---- onaww thnks man what does the plug look like?
#4: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: T_bandery, Location: East londonPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:46 pm ----
Ruraidh206Brown wrote:
onaww thnks man what does the plug look like?
Its a white plug underneath the glovebox, just push it right in!
#5: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: Dabamash, Location: The car in frontPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:49 pm ----
T_bandery wrote:
Ruraidh206Brown wrote:
onaww thnks man what does the plug look like?
Its a white plug underneath the glovebox, just push it right in!
Ah glovebox, roflmao, my mistake.
#6: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: Ruraidh206Brown, Location: GirvanPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:51 pm ---- yea a just done it thnks guys so much help
#7: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:34 am ---- mine has the oppisite. from people puting there feet right up under the box it knocks my brake lights out at times
#8: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: ma.langan, Location: Leyland, LancashirePosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:40 am ---- my friends are always pushing my brake switch out and ive been pulled over about 15 times for having constant brakelights on, so to avoid I wired a little LED into the middle brake light and pushed it through the lining on the ceiling inside, so everytime I break i can see the LED and if the switch has been kicked out the LED stays on with the lights! cost me about £2 to do and ive always caught them out when the switch gets kicked!
#9: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:48 am ---- i check mine pretty much every day to make sure they arent out as a few times people have flashed me saying i have no brake lights.
#10: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MrBombHead, Location: Horchurch, Essex, LondonPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:46 am ---- I just failed my MOT as my breaklights (all 3) were not working.
Changed the Fuses first, then bulbs and now just checked this "White connector" and it was plugged in, took it out and reseated and still getting the problem.
I assume this is the area I am supposed to be looking at for this "white plug"
Seems strange that all my break lights have stopped working.
Wonder if this unit itself is faulty, so the connection is not being made when the breaks are pushed.
Any other ideas guys? Last edited by MrBombHead on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:47 am; edited 1 time in total
#11: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:47 am ---- Try shorting the connector plug out then see if the brake lights come on.
Sounds like it needs a new switch.
#12: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MFACTOR001, Location: sheffieldPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:53 am ---- two brake swithces if that helps one under drivers fuse box and other behind glove box on the end of the brake bar common to get knocked with passangers feet causes rear light faults.
#13: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MFACTOR001, Location: sheffieldPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:55 am ----
Dabamash wrote:
If they stay on, the plug under the steering wheel has come out.
staying on could also be an indication that the brake swith on the end of the brake bar has been knocked out.
#14: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MrBombHead, Location: Horchurch, Essex, LondonPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:59 am ----
MFACTOR001 wrote:
two brake swithces if that helps one under drivers fuse box and other behind glove box on the end of the brake bar common to get knocked with passangers feet causes rear light faults.
Thanks.
Where about is the one under the drivers fusebox? Is it going to be something very easy to spot? or is it mixed in with millions of other cables?
#15: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!! Author: MFACTOR001, Location: sheffieldPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:49 pm ---- The best way to see it is opem door and sit on floor and stick your head under it is in the middle if you have problems locating follow brake and the other one also view from the floor behind glove box torch might be needed hope that helps.
#16: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MrBombHead, Location: Horchurch, Essex, LondonPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:40 pm ---- Right, so I've managed to fix my washer jet problem, my headlights, my number plate lights and is just the break lights thats the problem.
Fuses - Fine
Bulbs - Fine
White plug under passenger side dashboard - Connected fine.
Now I had an idea that it would be an issue with the switch itself, yet, if I understand it correctly... If the white connector is unplugged, the breaklights are off all the time. Which is not the case for me, I've tried disconnecting it but they are not.
I've tried looking for this plug that you mentioned MFACTOR001, but there's a lot under there and cannot see anything thats related.
Think I might have to get it checked out after all.
This is probably completely un-related, but after looking in the boot at the wiring, I found this...
It doesn't seem to connect to anything, so probably just random cable.
#17: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MFACTOR001, Location: sheffieldPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:17 am ---- Not sure what that cable is without having a look in boot it could be boot light wire or boot latch wire it is common practice for manufactuers to use the same loom in as many cars as poss and just leave out the extras so its nothing to worry about if it looks spare.
#18: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MFACTOR001, Location: sheffieldPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:23 am ---- I just took pic early models switch on left where mine is later on the right bang next to it
To get a better look at it if you take glove box out you have clear access
#19: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MFACTOR001, Location: sheffieldPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:26 am ---- Yes thats right so it sounds like swith behind glovebox if thats not pressed in then it doesent matter what you do with drivers side switch.
#20: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MrBombHead, Location: Horchurch, Essex, LondonPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:22 pm ----
MFACTOR001 wrote:
Yes thats right so it sounds like swith behind glovebox if thats not pressed in then it doesent matter what you do with drivers side switch.
I am still a little un-sure what you mean by the switch under the drivers side. I cannot see any loose or disconnected cables, so I gather we are looking at a faulty switch itself. (Passenger side).
#21: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MFACTOR001, Location: sheffieldPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:16 pm ---- I will also get pic of the one under the fuse box at drivers side
Have you located bith switches ?
When you do it is possible it is simply lose to remove dont jusy pull it as it needs a little turn left or right and it will then slide out. And when you put it back in just push it in a little further then turn to lock in if that fails to sort it you are looking at faulty switch.
#22: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MFACTOR001, Location: sheffieldPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:17 pm ---- If poss send me pic of under dash both sides and i will point em out.
#23: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: MrBombHead, Location: Horchurch, Essex, LondonPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:58 pm ---- RESULT! Bought a switch from the local PUG Parts & Spares (£5) and fitted it, all working perfectly now.
Just a bit of information for anyone reading this, some of the information provided here is a little mis-leading.
Removing the white plug from the switch alone will NOT make all the breaklights come on. (well it doesnt on a 55 plate 206 180 at least). I noticed everyone talking about a 2 wire connector, yet mine was 4 wires, possibly a difference, Im not too sure.
You need to remove the whole switch in order for the break lights to come on, or to have no pressure on the switch pin itself. (i.e, applying the breaks and the bar moving forward.)
Simple fix to an annoying issue, but if anyone is in the Romford, Essex area, the guys at Eddy Grimstead Parts & Spares are very helpful.
#24: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!! Author: adzar, Location: UKPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:09 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Try shorting the connector plug out then see if the brake lights come on.
Sounds like it needs a new switch.
None of my brake lights come on. I have inspected the switch under the glovebox and it is in place and the connector is in.
How can I short the connector plug to check if the switch is faulty. Also, are there any specific fuses i need to check and how do i find out which ones?
Thanks
#25: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!! Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:49 pm ----
adzar wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Try shorting the connector plug out then see if the brake lights come on.
Sounds like it needs a new switch.
How can I short the connector plug to check if the switch is faulty.
Unplug the connector from the switch. If it's a 2 wire connector (someone mentioned 4 above - there I'm not sure) then use a short piece of wire, paper clip etc (essentially anything that'll conduct electricity) and bridge between the terminals in the plug.
Be careful to not let it touch anything else metal or you'd likely blow the fuse.
If you have a multimeter then you can measure for voltage between each terminal [in turn] and ground - one should (w/ ignition on) read 12V the other 0V. If you then were to measure resistance between the 0V terminal and ground you should gave a low resistance reading (the parallel resistance of all the brake light bulbs)
If you don't get 12V on any of the terminals then it looks like an 'upstream' wiring issue, fuse etc.
If you don't get a low resistance reading then it could be a 'downstream' broken wire (between the plug and the branch point (since all 3 lights are out)
Going by the wiring diagram there is one upstream fuse,F32, in the engine bay and then there are two (one for each side) fuses, F11 & F12, in the interior fuse box, after the switch, protecting the wires through the car as they run through the car.
(ie one wire from main fuse to switch, then one wire from switch to interior fuse box where it splits into two fuses and wires to each side rear brake light. The central light appears to use same fuse as left side bulb.
Not sure if that fuse numbering applies to all models though (plexed/non-plexed, years etc).
#26: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!! Author: adzar, Location: UKPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:12 am ---- Thanks very much for the detailed reply. I've checked those three fuses and they're all fine.
I've got the 4 wire connector and no multimeter, so i'm going to have some difficulty trying to short it to work. I did have a little look at the mechanism inside the swith and i reckon i have an idea about how to short it. Otherwise, I'll just have to take it to the local garage...
#27: Re: hey guy got a problem with my brakelights....need help!!! Author: adzar, Location: UKPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:34 am ---- Managed to short the 4 wire connector and the lights came on.
For future info for anyone else:
Remove the plug that connects to the switch. As you look at it with the securing clip on top, short out the two contacts on the right side and this will be sufficient to turn on all three break lights (if the switch is the root of the problem).
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