#1: water in oil Author: 206racer, Location: derbyshirePosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:10 am ---- Just checked girlfriends car oil and topped up with about 1/2 litre.While doing this i noticed a white/yellow gunge on oil cap not much.I also checked dipstick which just has oil on.Is this something to be worried about as i know when water gets into the oil it can cause this gunge.The car has used roughly about 1/2 litre water over a year and done 5000 miles.
#2: Re: water in oil Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales.Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:42 am ---- Could be something as minor as condensation or major as head gasket failure.
Get it checked out
Sam.
#3: Re: water in oil Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:42 am ---- How much use does the car get?
If its only do short trips around town then the engine wont be getting up to a decent temp to burn the condensation of.
#4: Re: water in oil Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:42 am ---- If it does short runs it's fairly normal. Just make sure you take it for a decent long run once in a while.
#5: Re: water in oil Author: 206racer, Location: derbyshirePosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:59 am ---- She only uses it to got to work about 10 min drive and 10 min back
#6: Re: water in oil Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:02 am ----
206racer wrote:
She only uses it to got to work about 10 min drive and 10 min back
That's the problem solved then
It needs to go on a nice long / high speed run to get the engine temp up to burn the condensation of from inside the engine.
#7: Re: water in oil Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:03 am ----
206racer wrote:
She only uses it to got to work about 10 min drive and 10 min back
normal for this time of year mate, if there's none on the stick, and its not steaming from the exhaust once its fully warmed up i wouldent worry about it. i was recently at a large garage and asked the dude about this and he showed me the caps off of all of the cars one by one. most of them had a bit of white cream on the filler cap
EDIT: beat me to it MrBSI
#8: Re: water in oil Author: 206racer, Location: derbyshirePosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:07 am ---- we going away next weekend will take her car for the long run.On the point about it losing about 1/2 litre of water over a year is this also normal.Has i drive a company car i dont worry about these things lol.Thanks guys
#9: Re: water in oil Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:08 am ---- Check / top up all the levels & pressures before you go away.
Once there leave the car overnight & check the coolant level again & see if its lost any.
I've always found engines find there own coolant level between the max & min marks on the bottle no matter how many times you top it back up to the max one
#10: Re: water in oil Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:11 am ----
206racer wrote:
we going away next weekend will take her car for the long run.On the point about it losing about 1/2 litre of water over a year is this also normal.Has i drive a company car i dont worry about these things lol.Thanks guys
how many miles does it have on it? it could have a slow water leak
ive had leaks before where you loose about 1/2 litre over 6 months and cant see any on the ground (evaporates too fast and only leaks when coolants under pressure)
looks for crystal deposits around any joints on water pipes
if it is leaking into cylinders through the gasket you will notice steam out the exhaust even after a long journey. take it for the drive, but before you turn the engine off when you are at your destination look at the exhaust to check for this.
not 100% sure but if you were loosing this into the engine i recon there would be alot more cream/sludge then just a bit on the cap
#11: Re: water in oil Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:13 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
I've always found engines find there own coolant level between the max & min marks on the bottle no matter how many times you top it back up to the max one
p.s i agree with this, we have a ka that always settles its coolant level just below the min mark, then sites there indefinitely. if I top it up to the max it looses it untill just below the min again really fast, then sites there forever haha. strange
#12: Re: water in oil Author: 206racer, Location: derbyshirePosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:15 am ---- its got 72000 miles and this is first time ive topped it up for a year.left the engine running while i cleaned it this morning cant see any leaks could be a small leak on radiator?Also not lost any water while doing this.
#13: Re: water in oil Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:18 am ---- i really wouldnt worry about it mate. 1/2 over an entire year is not much tbh. i wouldnt call that a problem, just keep your eye on it. as said make sure its topped up before you go and check the levels again when at your destination. also couldnt hurt to have your oil changed if its overdue (not related to water loss in anyway) but i always like to get it changed before a long journy if its needed anyway
#14: Re: water in oil Author: 206racer, Location: derbyshirePosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:21 am ---- it gets a service every year about march time.when it goes ill get them to check it over.
#15: Re: water in oil Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:24 am ----
206racer wrote:
it gets a service every year about march time.when it goes ill get them to check it over.
What engine is it?
72K miles is getting very near timing belt replacement if its a TU petrol lump
#16: Re: water in oil Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:26 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
206racer wrote:
it gets a service every year about march time.when it goes ill get them to check it over.
What engine is it?
72K miles is getting very near timing belt replacement if its a TU petrol lump
indeed. wouldnt worry about it before your drive next week definitely something to bear in mind though
#17: Re: water in oil Author: 206racer, Location: derbyshirePosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:30 am ---- Its a 1.1 on a 51 plate which is why she only uses it for short journeys but we have been on holiday in it before saves alot on fuel.
#18: Re: water in oil Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:32 am ---- yeh, should look into getting the cam belt changed soon. if it snaps say bye bye to your engine
EDIT: having said that its still fine to use untill you get it done Last edited by MrrNoName on Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:33 am; edited 1 time in total
#19: Re: water in oil Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:32 am ----
206racer wrote:
Its a 1.1 on a 51 plate which is why she only uses it for short journeys but we have been on holiday in it before saves alot on fuel.
Get the timing belt replaced at the next service for piece of mind
#20: Re: water in oil Author: 206racer, Location: derbyshirePosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:34 am ---- Think book says 80000 miles dont know if it would be worth doing or buying another car.Any idea how much it roughly costs?
#21: Re: water in oil Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:36 am ----
206racer wrote:
Think book says 80000 miles dont know if it would be worth doing or buying another car.Any idea how much it roughly costs?
Timing belt is dead cheap for that engine
1 hours labour plus the cost of the belt, there that simple to do on a 1.1
Its every 80K miles OR 5 years whichever comes 1st
A Peugeot main dealer can change a 8 valve TU timing belt on a 206 in under 45 minutes
#22: Re: water in oil Author: 206racer, Location: derbyshirePosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:40 am ---- Thanks ill let them change it when it gets a service.
#23: Re: water in oil Author: 206racer, Location: derbyshirePosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:48 am ---- Lost a bit of coolant and still getting mayo colour under filler cap.Mate did a test where you suck coolant out into a tube filled with blue liquid and if the liquid changed to orange there is a leak on head gasket.Result was the liquid stayed the same colour.Are these tests reliable?Also the car is going to be serviced and have the timing belt and water pump done next week should i wait until i know for sure the head gasket is not leaking.Any advice.?
#24: Re: water in oil Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:04 am ---- those tests are pretty gd, if there are exhaust gasses in the coolant (signs of HG failure) the liquid will change colour, the fact that it stayed the same is just another sign thats the cars fine
a bit of water loss is not uncomon considering age and mileage.
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