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Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90
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#1: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: adam_16v, Location: Kent PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:51 pm
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After learning the mpg of a 1.4 is not what i expected i've decided to turn my attention to a diesel 206.

Im going to look at a 2001 206 2.0 HDi 90 LX which is up for £1300.

Having no clue, first off, does this sound reasonable? It has a full service history and has done 120k. The mileage is slightly off putting, but i've never had a diesel before so it could have plently left in it.

Also the mot runs out in 3months are diesel mots any more strict than petrol?

Another option is a 2004 2.0 HDi S with only 80k, part service history and is up for £2000.

Any opinions would be really helpful, plus things to look out for when buying a diesel.

Adam

#2: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:53 pm
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has the cambelt done?

diesel don't do emission test, they only do smoke density test

#3: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: MrrNoName, Location: UK PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:00 pm
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120,000 does seem to be quite a lot of miles! at that kinda mileage it really depends on if its been loved or ragged its whole life.

look for service history etc.

Diesel MOT's the same for the bodywork etc, but different for emissions. the car is not checked for hydrocarbons or CO2, but instead has a smoke test. so you wanna check that smoke isnt comming from the exhaust when its revved.

see here for a bit more about emissions testing:

www.dvtani.gov.uk/uplo...eaflet.pdf


because its got a turbo check for turbo whine when accelerating, this can be sign of a worn turbo. worn turbo may also give black smoke on heavy acceleration.

other then that its basically the same rules as for when you buy a petrol car. check for rust, damage, bodges etc etc


EDIT: also as said above check for proof the cambelt has been done or you will have to get this done straight away and can be expensive Razz

#4: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: troy, Location: llanelli PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:03 pm
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2.0 hdi's are a good strong engine. me and 4 other people who work at my garage have the engine in there cars, mine is on 50k, 2 of them are just under 100k, 1's on 110k and the other is on 120k and theyre all going strong. but again it does depend on how theyve been driven

#5: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: BarneyBaloo, Location: Colchester PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:11 pm
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mines on 128k, runs perfect, doesnt smoke and pulls like a train, if a hdi has been looked after and you continue to look after it will run forever, ive been hdi90's with 280 and 342k on them so dont let milage bother you

#6: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: adam_16v, Location: Kent PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:24 pm
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Excellent, i'll have a good look through the history, but it does say its a 'full' service history.

If the cambelt hasn't been done i'll factor that in with an offer, got a very good specialist nearby so souldnt break the bank. Especially since the cost of a cambelt change on the last car cost around £400.

What price do the turbos go for on these? just in case.

#7: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:27 pm
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adam_16v wrote:
Excellent, i'll have a good look through the history, but it does say its a 'full' service history.

If the cambelt hasn't been done i'll factor that in with an offer, got a very good specialist nearby so souldnt break the bank. Especially since the cost of a cambelt change on the last car cost around £400.

What price do the turbos go for on these? just in case.

normally £400-600 all included (re-cond)

#8: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: MrrNoName, Location: UK PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:29 pm
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Seabook wrote:


normally £400-600 all included (re-cond)

yup. would suck if you brought it and the turbo went a month later. as said before, check for turbo wine when driving, check for visable signs of oil leaking from the turbo and check for black smoke (can see in the rear view mirror) when accelerating real hard

#9: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: adam_16v, Location: Kent PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:33 pm
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Not too bad I guess.

Does the 2.0 Hdi have an intercooler?

#10: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:34 pm
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adam_16v wrote:
Not too bad I guess.

Does the 2.0 Hdi have an intercooler?

not on a 206. 406 do have intercooler

#11: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: Twidly, Location: Home - Norfolk, Uni - Preston PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:04 pm
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Are you bloody serious about the turbo whine?! What do you mean by whine... I'm worried now
Mine's makes that (what I thought was normal) kinda hum sorta noise, bit like a hissy noise. Get me?7

HDi's are awesome btw Very Happy

#12: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: MrrNoName, Location: UK PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:09 pm
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hissey noise, like rasping? probs a split pipe.

wine like this:

www.youtube.com/watch?...re=related

bad turbo.

a small bit is ok, not good though Razz


EDIT: also see this one:
www.youtube.com/watch?...re=related

and this one:
www.youtube.com/watch?...re=related

back to the original poster, dont ignore it if you hear this when looking at the car Razz

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#13: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: Twidly, Location: Home - Norfolk, Uni - Preston PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:15 pm
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Noo not like that at all. Thank god, it's much lower in pitch & just like a gassy sound... My boyf reckons it's ok & he's an engineer... Thanks (:

#14: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: adam_16v, Location: Kent PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:30 pm
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Thanks for the vids, helpful to know what to listen out for.

Smoke when booting it, and turbo whine are key parts then. Apart from that, the same as a normal.

I'll let you know how it goes, although im still tempted to go over budget and look at the 80k one.

#15: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: MrrNoName, Location: UK PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:40 pm
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have a look at them both, you cant really tell untill you have a good look around it in person. tbh other than those things there isnt much difference between looking at a petrol and diesel like you said. ob the diesel will sound a bit more tractory though. dont let that put you off Razz

#16: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:40 pm
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normally it do smoke a bit when you floor it.

#17: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: MrrNoName, Location: UK PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:48 pm
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a small amount is normal, not enough that you cant see the car behind you though. lots of black smoke could be the sign of a blocked EGR

#18: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: Danny., Location: Peterborough PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:38 pm
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Just so you know Ive managed to pick my HDi up for 900... 2000 'W' 99k miles on the clock... Drives beautifull Smile

#19: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: adam_16v, Location: Kent PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:06 am
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Sounds good, I'm looking for one after 2000 because of the tax. Spoke to a guy today and it seems reasonable. Full service history and the belts done when scheduled, but its on 120k so may be due now, not sure on the intervals.

Couple of problems one being it ran completely out of diesel.
And the fuel light comes on when the gauge reads 1/4.
He said it ran out of fuel pretty much as soon as the light came on. Does they sound fixable? Possibly a problem with the fuel guage or sensor?

If its an easy fix I may go take a look tomorrow.

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#20: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:52 am
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2.0 HDI has proven before in other PSA cars & vans it will 400K+ miles if looked after Wink
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#21: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: eddrj, Location: Berkshire PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:13 pm
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mines on 195,000 still runs well just keep it well mainted, will last 400k probably more real bullet proof engine also can be easily be tuned and chipped with remap or intercooler and tuning chip and so on ..

#22: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: Sorelini, Location: Lincoln PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:37 pm
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which diesel models have a turbo?

#23: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: eddrj, Location: Berkshire PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:43 pm
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1.4 hdi 2.0 hdi and 1.6 hdi all have turbos , just the 1.9 diesel engine that dont have a turbo

#24: Re: Looking at a 206 2.0 HDi 90 Author: adam_16v, Location: Kent PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:35 pm
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Any ideas on why the fuel guage would read 1/4 when its actually empty?



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