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#1: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: mufcsparky74, Location: Doncaster PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:33 pm
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I have a 206GT with play in th rear arm bearing. Just wondering if it's easy to replace the bearings or would it be better to just swap the axle? Question

#2: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:35 pm
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Swop the axle, once you notice the rear beam bearings need replacing it normally means the axle is knackered internally anyway.

#3: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: giveitsomebar, Location: redditch PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:19 am
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i cant see how this advice as any good ? the bearings are meant to wear out before the beam? if ever one of us changes the beam they will be rare as rocking horse s**t ive only been on here a couple of months an since ive been on here ive seen at least 15 people who have been told to change the beams well thats 30 less 206 beams in the world! there has got to be another way?

#4: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: spud_owen, Location: ashby de la zouch PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:27 am
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you can try and replace them but as said water gets into the shaft and eats away which nackers the shaft meaning that replacing the bearing is no good, also its a hard job to get the rear arm off when on the car, there are companies that sell re-conditioned ones and if you can afford it this is definatly the way to go, as getting one form the breakers can be pot luck!

#5: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: giveitsomebar, Location: redditch PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:45 am
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you can buy new beam shafts and new bearings so how is replacing these worse then getting another used beam which could have the same problem?

#6: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTi PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:05 am
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True, that getting another beam and scrapping your old one is silly. Mine was worn out and failed MOT

 


Sent it of to have new stub axles pressed in and then rebuilt it myself using new peugeot bearings. Total cost is around £300 all in.

Most refurbishers will do the whole job for you but i'd already stripped it down and bought the pug bearings and seals so didn't want to waste the £90

#7: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: spud_owen, Location: ashby de la zouch PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:46 am
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the main reason for replace the whole axle for myself was cost, you can get a complete one for £120, yes you got to strip it down etc to put it back on your car but my car simply doesnt warrent spedning £300 on it i think you can by a complete refurbed beam for £350.

#8: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: mufcsparky74, Location: Doncaster PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:57 pm
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Would the axle from a GTI 180 fit my GT or are they different?

#9: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:08 am
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I'm wondering for the relatively small cost of changing the bearings on a decent axle will this prolong its life?
It doesn't loook to be that hard to change the bearings.

#10: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex! PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:11 am
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Edward wrote:
I'm wondering for the relatively small cost of changing the bearings on a decent axle will this prolong its life?
It doesn't loook to be that hard to change the bearings.

Changing the Bearings isn't a difficult job, a bit fiddly if you've got ham hands but it can be done.

#11: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:14 am
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I like to think I'm capable...would be a good opportunity to refurb everything attached to the axle too...

But does the saying 'if it aint broke don't fix it' apply?

#12: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex! PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:26 am
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It can do, although "prevention is better than cure" Wink

I prefer to do preventative maintanence than reactive repairs where possible.

#13: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: PugJH, Location: Northants PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:17 am
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I got the old yellow slip from MOT yesterday about rear offside bearing, so this is my years project to get this sorted, i was thinking used rear axle with lower miles, but then i thought about a new bearing etc, i can see that the cost of a used beam is lower than the cost of the bearing, unless you DIY it which i would if i had time :D.

So just thinking about what to do, obviously a new bearing would/should feel better, is it a good idea to reaplace both sides while im at it, be like reconditioned internals as apposed to half fixed or a used beam.

When replacing a bearing, what else do i need in mine, broken parts clear out aswel as the shafts and ends being worn?

#14: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: giveitsomebar, Location: redditch PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:25 am
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the thing is with these rear axles is that for one person it may be an extra £150 - 200 for all the kit to re build an axle but for the dozens are people that are just swapping them and maybe getting 5000 miles before there 2nd hand axle does the same thing is going down the exact same road as the 205 gti. pug axles are s**t we know that but for everyone who scraps there slightly worn axle because they cant be arsed to fork out for a proper job on it is another axle which in the future could be needed. 205 axles are like rocking horse s**t now and are fetching £400-500 for a decent one. yeah there are alot of 206's about but already we are getting to this problem , i belive someone said he has at least 12 people waiting for him to get axles in the other day?! this is madness even if you axle is so worn there is alot of play in it, its still not the end of the world you can buy every part for an axle to make it virtually brand new again and the only way i would suggest replacing the whole axle is if its rusted and beond repair

#15: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: PugJH, Location: Northants PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:40 am
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Well it passed the mot with it, and they said its not that bad, i just sold a 206 axle aswel, not sure they are become rare, its just the gti ones people can't seem to get hold of really.

But im just going to look online at part prices and have a look at doing it mysel, i heard the noise about 3months ago and thought it was my front boot, but i'll get this sorted

#16: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:41 am
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there is always a few set of drum or disc axle on ebay.

#17: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: giveitsomebar, Location: redditch PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:48 am
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bellevuespares wrote:
Massive Common Problem! Ive got list as long as my arm, Around 20 customers waiting on rear axle's

They sell like HOT CAKES

knew i saw it somewhere

#18: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:49 am
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giveitsomebar wrote:
bellevuespares wrote:
Massive Common Problem! Ive got list as long as my arm, Around 20 customers waiting on rear axle's

They sell like HOT CAKES

knew i saw it somewhere

because he has got a scrap yard Razz

#19: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: PugJH, Location: Northants PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:43 pm
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would this fit mine then?
cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT...588ba3fcd0

The whole van thing doesnt mean anythin, as its the same axle

Not that i've even seen a 1.1 van mind

#20: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:30 pm
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PugJH wrote:
would this fit mine then?
cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT...588ba3fcd0

The whole van thing doesnt mean anythin, as its the same axle

Not that i've even seen a 1.1 van mind

that is wheel bearing...i think you need the trailer arm bearing...?

#21: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:03 pm
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I am going to strip my rear axle and replace the bearings and fit a new uprated ARB..... Want me to do a "how to" on it?

#22: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:19 pm
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I think there's one to do the rear ARB (I did it) but I'm sure one for doing the axle bearings would be useful.

#23: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:35 am
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I will strip it out in the next week or so.... if they need doing I will post it up

#24: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:02 pm
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Is it worth doing the mod with adding grease nipples while the beam is being overhauled?

The old boys on the French forum used to do it to rear beams before refitting them, reason why is so they can pump grease in with a grease gun to keep the bearings lubed.

#25: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:02 pm
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I was told of this mod by my local dealership parts man.... old school parts dept..... I will include it

#26: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Seabook PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:10 pm
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i don't quite understand this?

do you mean put the grease nipple on the trailing arm? how can you force the grease into the bearing then?

#27: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:21 pm
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keep your eye on the "how to" Wink

#28: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Seabook PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:30 pm
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macj wrote:
keep your eye on the "how to" Wink

Laughing Razz

#29: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: PugJH, Location: Northants PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:37 am
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a how to for the trailing amr would be great if thats what needs doin on mine

#30: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:36 am
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I wouldn't bother with the grease nipples.

#31: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Seabook PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:13 am
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Edward wrote:
I wouldn't bother with the grease nipples.

why? Question

i though why the axle is damaged is because the bearing lub. is drying out?

#32: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: PugJH, Location: Northants PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:06 pm
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Seabook wrote:
Edward wrote:
I wouldn't bother with the grease nipples.

why? Question

i though why the axle is damaged is because the bearing lub. is drying out?

usually due to getting water damage and rusting up

Any one found a how to for this?

#33: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Seabook PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:08 pm
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PugJH wrote:
Seabook wrote:
Edward wrote:
I wouldn't bother with the grease nipples.

why? Question

i though why the axle is damaged is because the bearing lub. is drying out?

usually due to getting water damage and rusting up

Any one found a how to for this?

yes, but that is after the grease is dried out.

i can't imagine it will rust or water will get in if there is full of grease Confused

#34: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:12 pm
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PugJH wrote:
Seabook wrote:
Edward wrote:
I wouldn't bother with the grease nipples.

why? Question

i though why the axle is damaged is because the bearing lub. is drying out?

usually due to getting water damage and rusting up

Any one found a how to for this?

I will be starting a " How too"... This weekend

#35: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: stevedude, Location: aldershot PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:24 pm
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ill keep an eye on this thread Smile
got a feeling mine is f****d too

#36: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: adzar, Location: UK PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:36 am
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My car is lowered. Will replacing the rear axle have any affect on it's ride height?

#37: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: Big_Rich180 PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:46 am
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Holy Thread Revival lol.

Yes it will if you buy a non lowered replacement.

#38: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: weejoe86, Location: Scotland PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:06 pm
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sorry to revive an old thread. I noticed that it was suggested that you can replace the parts of the axle. I am wonderng where it would be possible to get a replacement shaft for the axle. I know that you can get the bearings from pug themselves but do they supply the axle shaft?

#39: Re: Rear axle bearing replacement Author: weejoe86, Location: Scotland PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:06 pm
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sorry to revive an old thread. I noticed that it was suggested that you can replace the parts of the axle. I am wonderng where it would be possible to get a replacement shaft for the axle. I know that you can get the bearings from pug themselves but do they supply the axle shaft?



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