#1: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:14 pm ---- My girlfriend has been driving a year, she's got a Ka Luxury at the moment. she loves it, but its slow and has got lots of rust all over it, so she wants to get something different ideally.
She's been looking at getting a 206 CC (because beetle cabs are too expensive) it's quite a bit on her insurance compared to the 1.3 ka, so it's a difficult choice.
She wasn't an SE model, so she gets all the digital extras and pretty interior, but that spec only seems to be with the 2.0 model, which is havoc with insurance.
The 1.4 206 SE I had before was a great car, and never let me down (although the suspension, in hindsight was very boatlike), plus my 180 has been good to me, but I haven't had any experience with cabriolets at all.
Does anyone know of a 1.6 SE model? and in general, how do people rate the CC model?
Basically, would a 1.6 S or 2.0 SE CC be a worthwhile upgrade from a ka? I think it would, but is the insurance price justified?
Thanks guys
EDIT: don't be afraid to suggest better/cheaper alternatives! Although I've probably been through them with her!
#2: Re: What are CC's like? Author: xmikoolx, Location: Braintree EssexPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:32 pm ---- My missis had a 1.6 206 cc and loved it I gotta admit was a great car and came well enough equipped to please me let alone her! X
#3: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:45 pm ---- I've ragged a 1.6 around the estate and it seemed pretty nippy. The handling wasn't any different to the hatchback really, same with the gadgets
#4: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Mrs_Howey, Location: WorthingPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:12 pm ----
Lee wrote:
I've ragged a 1.6 around the estate and it seemed pretty nippy. The handling wasn't any different to the hatchback really, same with the gadgets
Aren't you a classy young Man, Mr Dickens!
#5: Re: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:29 pm ---- No a BMW would be more I'd have thought? I couldn't get insured on an e46 before I got my 180!
Plus I doubt they're girly enough for her
she wants something smaller. She likes the yaris, the beetle convertable and 206 convertible. But not mx5 or roadsters, unfortunately for me
I think fwd would probably be best, as she's only been on the road a year and she throws her ka around pretty hard! Haha! I wouldnt mind if it didn't feel like it was going to tip over! If she keeps it I'm fitting new suspension!
#6: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:58 pm ---- by the sound of how she drives a CC would be best.
#7: Re: What are CC's like? Author: JordGJ, Location: Leeds / West MidlandsPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:44 pm ---- My mum has one and can't stand it, really heavy and doesnt handle like the hatchbacks, i've driven it a few times and wouldnt want to drive it every day
#8: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Iain, Location: Aberdeen, ScotlandPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:04 pm ---- You can get E46 318's for half the price of that one.
The compact is probably less, the 316 I think.
#9: Re: What are CC's like? Author: kieron, Location: in the housePosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:51 am ---- The space is terrible in the rear and also if you have anything that is not flat in to boot i.e bags of shopping etc the electric roof will crush it as it folds down
Also it roof has its own ecu and if the roof go,s out of sequence it will just stop where ever it is and will need to be reset
Thats to only things i can think f my head wrong with them
#10: Re: What are CC's like? Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:21 am ---- I've heard a few cases of leaky roofs.
#11: Re: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:47 am ---- Yeah leaks were a big issue I was thinking of. Heavy handling and a dodgy roof? Hmm. Not sounding promising! Lol. I think less room would help, she wouldn't make such a mess then!
The price of the actual car isn't the problem Iain, it's the insurance! I'll have a check though!
#12: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales.Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:02 am ---- If she likes the KA
Why not get a StreetKa?
Sam.
#13: Re: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:09 am ---- Just asked. "because it's another ka" lol. she likes the 206 more apparently!
I looked at beemers and they're too expensive for a decent one. Plus apparently they're too big and manly anyway.
#14: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales.Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:12 am ---- Smart roadster?
Daihatsu Copen
Fiat Barchetta
Also try the Nissan Figaro, they are getting a bit old but are based on the micra iirc so should be ok to maintain
#15: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Jono, Location: Dorchester, DorsetPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:17 am ---- Find a local garage with one on the forcourt and get her to take it for a test drive, see if she likes it and look for any signs of leaking roofs etc
#16: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:22 am ---- Only problem is the typical owner doesn't look after them. They don't get serviced as often as they should but equally they might not have hard lives other than doing a lot of short local running.
#17: Re: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:32 am ---- Thanks for the suggestions! Her favourite was the Copen. Not too keen on the others. The fiat is too much of a roadster, the smart is somehow manly, and the figaro.. "let's give that one a miss shall we?" a bit too oldschool I think!
But now she knows the Copen has a tiny engine she's not so impressed although that might help with insurance? She's checking it out now!
I think a test drive would be the best choice!
#18: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales.Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:39 am ---- Copen has a turbocharged 1l engine
75bhp is enough in something so small
#19: Re: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:54 am ---- Hmm I wonder how tuneable the turbo is?
it's not going to be as nippy as a 2.0 cc though..... Is it?
#20: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales.Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:58 am ---- Na it wont be
But it could be just as much fun
#21: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Antix, Location: WorcesterPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:12 am ---- Smart Roadster-Coupe BRABUS
#22: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:17 am ----
Antix wrote:
Smart Roadster-Coupe BRABUS :D
the only bit i like
Although 206 cc's have their faults so do all cars. It may not handle as good as its hatchback counterpart but the handling is still going to be pretty good, it is a Peugeot after all Remember its the best selling CC going. Must count for something.
#23: Re: What are CC's like? Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:48 am ---- Renault do a meagan 1.6 8v convertable got 1 on my drive for sale and its yellow 9 (YUK)
#24: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Aaronwillis, Location: IpswichPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:19 am ---- I got a 2.0cc
Test drove the 1.6 and the 2.0 before I got mine and preferred the poke of the 2.0
Had one of the seals changed on mine and treated all the others so they wouldn't leak
Change the aerial as mine had rusted
Cambelt and pump too
My roof is spot on never had a problem with it some times the micro switch in the boot can play up on them
I have a allure model and it is fully spec'd out
#25: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:05 pm ----
Mrs_Howey wrote:
Lee wrote:
I've ragged a 1.6 around the estate and it seemed pretty nippy. The handling wasn't any different to the hatchback really, same with the gadgets
Aren't you a classy young Man, Mr Dickens!
Shhhh you
The guy wanted me to move it off the drive, so took it a test drive
How about a Vauxhall Tigra? You see a few cute birds driving them.
#26: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Iain, Location: Aberdeen, ScotlandPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:03 pm ----
Lee wrote:
How about a Vauxhall Tigra? You see a few cute birds driving them.
Good shout, supposed to be good fun as well.
#27: Re: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:21 pm ---- www.autotrader.co.uk/c...?logcode=p
how is a 2005 tigra with relatively low miles so cheap? I think she liked these, but we weren't actively looking for them, the ones we saw were too pricey. for that price you couldnt get a same year/mileage decent spec 206 cc.. or am I missing something?
She wants to pay a max of £4k, and she can probably get £2k for her ka, as it's a luxury, and cars tend to go for a bit more in cornwall.
#28: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Aaronwillis, Location: IpswichPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:22 pm ---- Mines up at £4250 to give u a clue on prices
2004 2.0 allure
Mot and tax
47k
Cambelt water pump done
Full sp kit
Including headlights, 17 inch vortex
Grilles and arches
#29: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Aaronwillis, Location: IpswichPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:23 pm ---- I'm not to sure what a 1.6 goes for but should be a bit cheaper
Go for the allure if you can
#30: Re: What are CC's like? Author: lofty, Location: Near ManchesterPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:35 pm ---- Ford Puma's still look tasty and appeal to everyone. Not a soft top I know but they are nippy and handle well.
#31: Re: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:43 pm ---- Yeah she likes pumas too but i think fords attitude to chassis rust has put her off buying another!
What's the diff. Between an SE and an allure then? We saw a 1.6 allure but it didn't have digi aircon
#32: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Aaronwillis, Location: IpswichPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:58 pm ---- Well I thought allure was top spec
Mine has climate control, auto wipers, auto lights, remote central locking, red and black leather, cat 1 alarm I think Erm let me find the spec sheet
#33: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Aaronwillis, Location: IpswichPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:11 pm ---- www.donnellygroup.co.u.../206cc.pdf
#34: Re: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:39 pm ---- hmmm so it seems that allure does come with digicon. so some people are lying? lol
oh and I specified 60k miles or less.
Do you think thats an ideal amount for a 206? mine is at 50k now, and my old one was 14k
her ka right now is around 60k
#35: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Aaronwillis, Location: IpswichPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:16 pm ---- Yup I'd go for lowest u can find for the money
Ways the difference on insurance between engine sizes
See if u can find any with the sp kit on or does she not mind about that
#36: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Aaronwillis, Location: IpswichPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:21 pm ---- Oh and I think the black ones rule
#37: Re: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:25 pm ---- looking at her confused quotes, it seems to vary between £900 and £2000. yaris's hitting £700-£900 (think mostly 1.4) copens are hitting £1k
I just looked and a 2.0 cc quote is more than my 180?! (£1800)
her car now is £600
yeah there's a few with sp kits, and a couple with vortex's I doubt she cares, but I'll be advising her to get them! lol.
#38: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Aaronwillis, Location: IpswichPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:41 am ---- Wow I thought mine was high at 400 fully comp
The 2.0 is only the old gti lump too lol wouldn't be to bad if it was the 180 engine
#39: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:21 am ---- But who buys a CC to go fast??? The EW10 engine is perfectly gutsy to pull the CC along nicely.
#40: Re: What are CC's like? Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:27 am ---- yeah shes not worried about the speed, but she wants the fully spec'd version in black or red, so it looks like she has to buy the 2.0 for that?
I just find it silly that her insurance would be more on a 138CC than a 180!
#41: Re: What are CC's like? Author: craigdmjv, Location: WiltshirePosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:47 am ----
Aaronwillis wrote:
I'm not to sure what a 1.6 goes for but should be a bit cheaper
Go for the allure if you can
i paid 3300 fr mine with 110k but runs like new lol very recomemded
#42: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Davels, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:24 pm ---- I have a 2.0 cc SE. I drove a few 206 hatches and my cc handles better than the lot of them. (never driven a 180 tho ) The turn in is comparable to my ol 2.2VTEC import prelude which had 4 wheel steer. Me and my mate have always had hot hondas and although not as quick the torque of the 2l lump if impressive.
My mate even thought mine handled better than his 5th gen motegi so i have no idea why people would say the handling is off. Which the roof down tho there is a lot more flex as you would expect.
I've had a 180bhp derv ibiza FR, a 170bhp Civic VTiS and a 205bhp import prelude (spoon chipped to red line a 9.5k ) And to step down to the CC and still have fun in it must say something.
If you can try and stretch to the 2.0 you wont regret it.
An are they really that girly??!
#43: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:43 pm ----
Davels wrote:
I have a 2.0 cc SE. I drove a few 206 hatches and my cc handles better than the lot of them.
Such as a 1.1 hatch?
There's no way a heavy CC with softer suspension than a GTi would handle better.
#44: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Davels, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:51 pm ---- A friend of mine used to have a GTi 138 and i drove a couple of smaller engined ones yes.
I have never driven a 180 GTi so cannot compare on that. but the suspension parts on the 2.0 cc are the same as the GTi 138 in most cases. That coupled with the improved chassis rigidity put in place as it's a convertible compensates nicely for the extra weight.
IMO Like I say i know what i have driven previously and this is by no means a let down. Perhaps is depends on driving style lol
#45: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:04 pm ---- The 2.0 CC uses smaller anti roll bars to avoid highlighting the lack of torsional rigidity. The extra bracing underneath the car definately does not make up for the lack of roof.
Just to show how floppy the 206CC is the 207CC is 40 per cent stiffer when the roof is up and 46 per cent stiffer when down. You can still feel the scuttle shake in the 207 with the roof down so that shows how flexible the 206CC is.
#46: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Davels, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:08 pm ---- Well if you going to back up your argument with facts............
Best advice for the OP and anyone else looking to buy is to drive it for your self and form your own opinion.
I'm still impressed with my lil car tho
#47: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Jonno, Location: Boston/Spalding LincsPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:22 pm ---- mini cooper convertible? not sure of price of one of those though
#48: Re: What are CC's like? Author: craigdmjv, Location: WiltshirePosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:57 am ---- my 206cc handles great too and i have driven a gti when looking for a 206 and the cc feels the same lol
#49: Re: What are CC's like? Author: evilhamster, Location: bradfordPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:40 am ---- 206cc is fun to drive
#50: Re: What are CC's like? Author: -xkellatronx-, Location: EastbournePosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:44 am ---- i have a 206 cc 1.6 allure and i love it, had a gti hatchback before havent noticed any difference in handling
but as previously mentioned with the roof down it is quite flexible!
window did leak but that was just the screw i would reccommend getting one!:)
#51: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, SussexPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:44 am ----
-xkellatronx- wrote:
the screw i would reccommend getting one!:)
You would
#52: Re: What are CC's like? Author: craigdmjv, Location: WiltshirePosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:28 pm ---- i would recomend tooooo
#53: Re: What are CC's like? Author: fatboyslim, Location: Lincolnshire,Home of the RAFPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:10 pm ----
-xkellatronx- wrote:
i have a 206 cc 1.6 allure and i love it, had a gti hatchback before havent noticed any difference in handling
but as previously mentioned with the roof down it is quite flexible!
window did leak but that was just the screw i would reccommend getting one!:)
craigdmjv wrote:
i would recomend tooooo
Absolutely Luurve mine,it's like driving a go kart
#54: Re: What are CC's like? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:15 pm ----
fatboyslim wrote:
Absolutely Luurve mine,it's like driving a go kart
If you think driving a 206 CC is like driving a go kart then you havent driven anything with a decent chassis yet.
The 206 CC chassis is p**s poor.
Go drive a 405 or 306 if you want to know what a go kart should handle like
#55: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:18 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Go drive a 405 or 306 if you want to know what a go kart should handle like
This.
/thread.
#56: Re: What are CC's like? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:19 pm ----
G. wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Go drive a 405 or 306 if you want to know what a go kart should handle like
This.
/thread.
I prefer the 405 chassis, the passive rear wheel steer on the 306 / ZX / Xsara isnt to my liking.
#57: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:20 pm ---- Solid rear mounts and the jobs a fish
#58: Re: What are CC's like? Author: fatboyslim, Location: Lincolnshire,Home of the RAFPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:06 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
fatboyslim wrote:
Absolutely Luurve mine,it's like driving a go kart
If you think driving a 206 CC is like driving a go kart then you havent driven anything with a decent chassis yet.
The 206 CC chassis is p**s poor.
Go drive a 405 or 306 if you want to know what a go kart should handle like
I have, I owned a 405 1.9 sri and a 306 GTi,they were good the CC is good but not as good as they were,but after owning a 4x4 the CC is like a go kart especially with 17 inch alloys
#59: Re: What are CC's like? Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, SussexPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:23 pm ----
fatboyslim wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
fatboyslim wrote:
Absolutely Luurve mine,it's like driving a go kart
If you think driving a 206 CC is like driving a go kart then you havent driven anything with a decent chassis yet.
The 206 CC chassis is p**s poor.
Go drive a 405 or 306 if you want to know what a go kart should handle like
I have, I owned a 405 1.9 sri and a 306 GTi,they were good the CC is good but not as good as they were,but after owning a 4x4 the CC is like a go kart especially with 17 inch alloys
You should try it with smaller alloys then, you'd think you were Carlos Sainz then....
#60: Re: What are CC's like? Author: evilhamster, Location: bradfordPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:23 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
fatboyslim wrote:
Absolutely Luurve mine,it's like driving a go kart
If you think driving a 206 CC is like driving a go kart then you havent driven anything with a decent chassis yet.
The 206 CC chassis is p**s poor.
Go drive a 405 or 306 if you want to know what a go kart should handle like
my last car was a 306. my 206cc handles better
#61: Re: What are CC's like? Author: craigdmjv, Location: WiltshirePosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:58 pm ----
evilhamster wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
fatboyslim wrote:
Absolutely Luurve mine,it's like driving a go kart
If you think driving a 206 CC is like driving a go kart then you havent driven anything with a decent chassis yet.
The 206 CC chassis is p**s poor.
Go drive a 405 or 306 if you want to know what a go kart should handle like
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although that might help with insurance? She's checking it out now! 
) And to step down to the CC and still have fun in it must say something.
