#1: Symptoms. Author: Laurenyt680, Location: Stoke-on-TrentPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:50 am ---- First post and I'm afraid it's bad news
I was out for a drive one night, and all was going well until the water starting pouring out of the bottle and when I finally managed to get the lid off, because it was so pressurised, the water was boiling and had literally been evaporated in about 5 minutes. I filled it back up and hoped it would get me home then the exact same thing happened again, a whole bottle of water boiled away in a matter of minutes!
Got my boyfriend and his dad to have a look around and because the water was being pushed UP out of the bottle, they figured it would be air coming from somewhere, they got rid of an air lock, flushed the whole of the radiator and joining pipes out incase there was a blockage - chunks of old oil and scum were coming out the entire time they were doing this. I started it back up and the same thing happened again.
We were told by a Mechanic that we should replace the thermostat which we did at the weekend and it too was full of what can only be described as a diarrhea like substance, I had my fingers crossed thinking it was solved but hey presto, same thing happened again.
Please if you have any other thoughts on what this could be other than the dreaded head gasket (haven't had any of the scum on the lid of the water bottle which is the msot tell tale symptom.. ) let me know, I really don't want to get rid of this car and would appreciate any help/feedback you might have.
Sorry about the essay I didn't know how else to explain it! - Boyfriend and his dad have titled it a mystery...
#2: Re: Symptoms. Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:55 am ---- Head gasket
#3: Re: Symptoms. Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex!Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:00 am ---- Sounds like the Head Gasket to me too.
There will be alot of pressure in the bottle as it's a pressurised cooling system That's normal. The bit which isn't is the evaporation. Do you get white smoke out of the exhaust when the car's up to temperature? There definitely isn't a leak on the system elsewhere?
#4: Re: Symptoms. Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:01 am ---- yup sounds like the head gasket chances are the water jackets in the engine are also full of this gunk causing it to pressure up , its a head off and mega clean of all passageway job, for soe 1 that knows what there doign its a bout a half day job, i have seen it wer you get this gunk under the rocker cover that it split the cover!
#5: Re: Symptoms. Author: Laurenyt680, Location: Stoke-on-TrentPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:03 am ----
CD-vRS wrote:
Head gasket
Dammit, it's been at the back of my mind the whole time I'm just in denial...
At the minute I'm just thinking to myself if I get this sorted will there be other problems, but then again if I get rid and by another car - will I have the same problems with that too. Just need to weigh up whether it's worth it...
Struggling with the decision and fairly heartbroken!
#6: Re: Symptoms. Author: Laurenyt680, Location: Stoke-on-TrentPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:06 am ----
Ape wrote:
Sounds like the Head Gasket to me too.
There will be alot of pressure in the bottle as it's a pressurised cooling system That's normal. The bit which isn't is the evaporation. Do you get white smoke out of the exhaust when the car's up to temperature? There definitely isn't a leak on the system elsewhere?
No smoke out of the exhaust and can't find another leak, the issue is getting a decent mechanic who isn't going to charge me ridiculous amounts for labour (though I know its a hell of a job..)
#7: Re: Symptoms. Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:16 am ---- You might as well get the car into the garage. The price of doing the head gasket is no where near the price of replacing the car. A good mechanic will have the job done well within the day.
Even if you have warped the head, still be cheaper getting it skimmed rather than replacing the car. The "diarrhea" is oil and water mixed. A good flushing oil can usually get rid of the residue.
#8: Re: Symptoms. Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex!Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:18 am ---- What model is your 206?
I changed a head in about 3-4 hours the first time I did it. Stripping everything back takes the time, it can be done quite quickly. The time consuming bit is getting the head skimmed (if needed, but recommended). It can be done yourself (or your boyfriend/dad) if you're not too bad with spanners and a Haynes book.
I'll see if I can find the pictures I took when I did mine, was almost a step by step photo walkthrough.
#9: Re: Symptoms. Author: hobnob48, Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:33 am ---- I was about to say if its 8v engine should be nice and easy to do. Just make sure you get the bits you need like new head bolts and the head skimmed. Even if it doesnt need skimming will give you a slight bit more oompf lol
#10: Re: Symptoms. Author: Laurenyt680, Location: Stoke-on-TrentPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:12 am ----
macca1411 wrote:
You might as well get the car into the garage. The price of doing the head gasket is no where near the price of replacing the car. A good mechanic will have the job done well within the day.
Even if you have warped the head, still be cheaper getting it skimmed rather than replacing the car. The "diarrhea" is oil and water mixed. A good flushing oil can usually get rid of the residue.
A bloke at my work says if i've warped the head and I get the gasket sorted i may aswell get a new engine because it will just break agin and again etc.
thoughts?
#11: Re: Symptoms. Author: nellyhaggis, Location: SheffieldPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:16 am ---- Head gasket.
ive you have boiled the engine it will at the least need a head skim.
#12: Re: Symptoms. Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales.Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:21 am ---- He is wrong, if the job is done correctly you shouldnt have problems, if you bought another (second hand engine) you could have the same problem again in 6months...
Sam.
#13: Re: Symptoms. Author: Laurenyt680, Location: Stoke-on-TrentPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:22 am ----
Ape wrote:
What model is your 206?
I changed a head in about 3-4 hours the first time I did it. Stripping everything back takes the time, it can be done quite quickly. The time consuming bit is getting the head skimmed (if needed, but recommended). It can be done yourself (or your boyfriend/dad) if you're not too bad with spanners and a Haynes book.
I'll see if I can find the pictures I took when I did mine, was almost a step by step photo walkthrough.
Those pictures would be great if you can find them for me!
It's a Peugeot 206 Lx 1999 - just feel its a shame when i havent had it for too long, want to give it a fighting chance!
#14: Re: Symptoms. Author: Laurenyt680, Location: Stoke-on-TrentPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:23 am ----
Spanerman wrote:
He is wrong, if the job is done correctly you shouldnt have problems, if you bought another (second hand engine) you could have the same problem again in 6months...
Sam.
Exactly what I thought, may aswell work with what I've got than risk having problems with another car... Thanks
#15: Re: Symptoms. Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:23 am ----
Laurenyt680 wrote:
Ape wrote:
What model is your 206?
I changed a head in about 3-4 hours the first time I did it. Stripping everything back takes the time, it can be done quite quickly. The time consuming bit is getting the head skimmed (if needed, but recommended). It can be done yourself (or your boyfriend/dad) if you're not too bad with spanners and a Haynes book.
I'll see if I can find the pictures I took when I did mine, was almost a step by step photo walkthrough.
Those pictures would be great if you can find them for me!
It's a Peugeot 206 Lx 1999 - just feel its a shame when i havent had it for too long, want to give it a fighting chance!
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That's normal. The bit which isn't is the evaporation. Do you get white smoke out of the exhaust when the car's up to temperature? There definitely isn't a leak on the system elsewhere?
