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#1: MOT fail! What to do?? Author: jonny_fulton03, Location: Leeds PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:05 am
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Just had MOT and heres the results.
1)nearside headlight incorrect colour
2)Offside headlight incorrect colour
3)nearside headlight too low
4)offside headlight too high
5)nearside front ball joint has excessive play
6)ALL 6 brake pipes on vehicle need changing.
7) Failed emssions, heres the readings:
Fast idle CO-0.54%
Second fast idle CO-0.54%.

Garage are saying it needs new catalyst.

Joni

Last edited by jonny_fulton03 on Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:41 pm; edited 2 times in total

#2: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,Warwickshire PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:08 am
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Errrr new light bulbs and headlight adjusted =cost for new bulbs

New wishbone

New catalyst
New brake lines

Job done?

#3: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Werdnal, Location: Cornwall, UK PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:11 am
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Call that dramatic - Car I had once failed so badly they wouldn't let me drive it home as it was too dangerous!

#4: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Big_Rich180 PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:24 am
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Thats not the bad of a fail to be fair, i certainly wouldnt be asking if i should scrap or not because of those pretty small problems, the cat would be the only one that would worry me on cost.

#5: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Harry, Location: Stafford PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:28 am
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Unless it was a small engine on 150k miles it doesn't sound look too bad to scrap it. Use your judgement and how you think the car is as a whole definately don't just do it based on the MOT

#6: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: kieron, Location: in the house PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:44 am
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1) just a bulb £4
2) just a bulb £4
3) needs adjusting £free
4 needs adjusting £free
5) ball joint around £25
6) is it the flexy pipes?
7)cat around £150

#7: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales. PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:58 am
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I got a bosal cat for 80 quid

From what i have read they are a pretty decent brand

Sam.

#8: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Howey, Location: Kings Lynn PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:00 am
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People on this website make me laugh.

MAJOR FAIL= 2 bulbs a ball joint and a cat! Laughing

Just this weekend someone traded their 206 in for just £500 because they couldnt be bothered to replace the rear axel! Laughing Talk about false economy Rolling Eyes

#9: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales. PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:17 am
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Howey wrote:
People on this website make me laugh.

MAJOR FAIL= 2 bulbs a ball joint and a cat! Laughing

Just this weekend someone traded their 206 in for just £500 because they couldnt be bothered to replace the rear axel! Laughing Talk about false economy Rolling Eyes

Exactly my thoughts

You could fix that for just shy of a 100quid yourself, that's only 1.5 tanks of fuel Laughing

#10: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Danny., Location: Peterborough PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:22 am
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Spanerman wrote:
Howey wrote:
People on this website make me laugh.

MAJOR FAIL= 2 bulbs a ball joint and a cat! Laughing

Just this weekend someone traded their 206 in for just £500 because they couldnt be bothered to replace the rear axel! Laughing Talk about false economy Rolling Eyes

Exactly my thoughts

You could fix that for just shy of a 100quid yourself, that's only 1.5 tanks of fuel Laughing

Expensive fuel you pay then.... Razz

That would be about 1.8 for me Smile

I would only tade my car in if the work that needed doing was worth more then the car its self.

#11: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex! PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:23 am
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Howey wrote:
People on this website make me laugh.

MAJOR FAIL= 2 bulbs a ball joint and a cat! Laughing

Just this weekend someone traded their 206 in for just £500 because they couldnt be bothered to replace the rear axel! Laughing Talk about false economy Rolling Eyes

Damn. That's Darwin material right there.

#12: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Coolspot, Location: East Sussex PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:47 am
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Just fix it, i spent more than that getting replacements parts, you just have to way out the amount it will cost to what the car does for you.
In my case i have spent and am still spending on my car because the car returns more saving repairing it that if i where to scrap it and buy another second hand one with no personal history.

#13: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:06 am
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To put this into perception

To fix your car, it would cost LESS than one of my main amplifiers Laughing

#14: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: dopey, Location: Hastings, Near Brighton PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:06 pm
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Reply you call that bad ime cost me £370 last time to pass.

#15: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:03 pm
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I'll take the car off you and give you scrap value.

#16: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Mrs_Howey, Location: Worthing PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:54 pm
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I think you should scrap it, it's clearly soooo much work to have done Shocked





Rolling Eyes

#17: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshire PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:17 pm
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ok maybe the wording "dramatic" is extreme to say the least.

.... however i cant help thinking that the poor guy has just been embarrassed enough to never return to this forum again.

whats happening here, i thought it was an info site for 206 ?

sorry, but ( who admittedly doesnt know a lot about cars in general , let alone 206's ) would think twice before posting in case i got flamed or ridiculed.
its not just this post, ive seen others taking the urine too.

ok rant over.. just thought we was supposed to helping each other Confused

#18: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Dabamash, Location: The car in front PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:21 pm
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perry081064 wrote:
ok maybe the wording "dramatic" is extreme to say the least.

.... however i cant help thinking that the poor guy has just been embarrassed enough to never return to this forum again.

whats happening here, i thought it was an info site for 206 ?

sorry, but ( who admittedly doesnt know a lot about cars in general , let alone 206's ) would think twice before posting in case i got flamed or ridiculed.
its not just this post, ive seen others taking the urine too.

ok rant over.. just thought we was supposed to helping each other Confused

What's the issue? He's been told exactly what he needs to do and how much it'll cost.

#19: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Dabamash, Location: The car in front PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:22 pm
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Addaz wrote:
To put this into perception

To fix your car, it would cost LESS than one of my main amplifiers Laughing

Did you mean "perspective" Adz? Wink

#20: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshire PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:24 pm
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my car is bwoken and im just feeling a wittle sensitive ok Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

Wink

#21: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:42 pm
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Just out of curiosity, what colour were your headlamp bulbs?
Mine failed for blue side light bulbs, the garage put some of their own in passed it and when I left I parked on road outside and changed them back. Cost 30p

#22: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:48 pm
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It can fail for them if you just replace one faulty bulb with a new one. You must always replace in pairs.

#23: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:52 pm
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Dabamash wrote:
Addaz wrote:
To put this into perception

To fix your car, it would cost LESS than one of my main amplifiers Laughing

Did you mean "perspective" Adz? Wink

Nope Laughing

#24: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: bertt, Location: chester PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:20 pm
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perry081064 wrote:
ok maybe the wording "dramatic" is extreme to say the least.

.... however i cant help thinking that the poor guy has just been embarrassed enough to never return to this forum again.

whats happening here, i thought it was an info site for 206 ?

sorry, but ( who admittedly doesnt know a lot about cars in general , let alone 206's ) would think twice before posting in case i got flamed or ridiculed.
its not just this post, ive seen others taking the urine too.

ok rant over.. just thought we was supposed to helping each other Confused

oh my haha , maybe by having the p**s taken out of him for being a drama queen there wont be a post every other day on 'serious MOT failures', that will cost a few hundred and a weekends work tops.

#25: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshire PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:28 pm
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well yea true, i suppose you right really, even with my limited knowledge i could easily see it wasnt a drastic end of the world situation.

perhaps its becouse my daughter had been bullied at school earlier today and i just needed to let off steam on here .
shoulda gone down there and beat the %$$£%^%^$ outta them instead Laughing

#26: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,Warwickshire PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:38 pm
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perry081064 wrote:
well yea true, i suppose you right really, even with my limited knowledge i could easily see it wasnt a drastic end of the world situation.

perhaps its becouse my daughter had been bullied at school earlier today and i just needed to let off steam on here .
shoulda gone down there and beat the %$$£%^%^$ outta them instead Laughing

only to get arrested and probably face jail... Confused

Let the teachers deal with it, after all they are trained to deal with these problems and they don't have to mention that is was you that complained about it

#27: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshire PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:00 pm
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DeadEyePaul wrote:

Let the teachers deal with it, after all they are trained to deal with these problems and they don't have to mention that is was you that complained about it

already in their hands, not gonna go into details here becouse its still ongoing after a few months.
.... as for them knowing its me, they already know, last time it happened i was there with the headmaster Wink

#28: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: jonny_fulton03, Location: Leeds PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:39 am
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Ok after reading all these comments it amuses me how people can assume that you have the knowledge/time to fix these problems. I have no idea how to change brake pipes or a catalyst, and no thats not a request for a link to a 'how to'. It failed on the bulbs due to the 'angel eye' blue led's that surround the side light and main beam. They disconnected them in the garage for me. The reason i considered the fail to be dramatic was due to the garage quoting me 1100 pound to fix all these issues. Im not very mechanically minded so wasn't gonna stand and argue the toss with a mechanic about something i have no idea about. After reading these post yeah maybe a better word could have been used but to be honest, you guys out there that fix all your own cars, and make people feel like a right tit for posting, are gonna cost this site a lot of members. All i wanted was advice on the repairs,which i got, followed mostly by ridiculing because of the wording i used!! Cheers 'guys'

#29: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex! PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:59 am
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jonny_fulton03 wrote:
Ok after reading all these comments it amuses me how people can assume that you have the knowledge/time to fix these problems. I have no idea how to change brake pipes or a catalyst, and no thats not a request for a link to a 'how to'. It failed on the bulbs due to the 'angel eye' blue led's that surround the side light and main beam. They disconnected them in the garage for me. The reason i considered the fail to be dramatic was due to the garage quoting me 1100 pound to fix all these issues. Im not very mechanically minded so wasn't gonna stand and argue the toss with a mechanic about something i have no idea about. After reading these post yeah maybe a better word could have been used but to be honest, you guys out there that fix all your own cars, and make people feel like a right tit for posting, are gonna cost this site a lot of members. All i wanted was advice on the repairs,which i got, followed mostly by ridiculing because of the wording i used!! Cheers 'guys'

Wouldn't it have been more rational to ask a few other questions first?

Such as...

"I've been quoted £1,100 to fix the following problems
1. Sad
2. Crying or Very sad
3. Sad
4. Crying or Very sad

How much should I be looking at, does that seem a fair price? "

Rather than "My car failed it's MOT for a couple of bulbs and a CAT, should I scrap it?"


And no, the people who do "fix their cars all the time" won't cost the site alot of members, as alot of members word questions in such a way as to receive a useful response, and in some cases, offers of assistance from those who have fixed a similar problem in the past.

#30: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:09 am
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£1100 Where did you take it Goldplated Motors.
I think the garage are taking the mick. Go into Kwikfit and ask them how much to do the job,
Did they give you a written quote, Even if they replace your headlamps with Original ones it wouldn't come to much more tan £500.
One thing to point out is that how can they check emissions if they have failed the catalyst. The 2 go hand in hand. To be honest the hardest job that needs doing is the brake lines. They were probably going to buy OEM parts. Most dare I say "back street" garages will make their own which works out a lot cheaper.
Have you used the garage before, or know anyone who has?
Steer clear of the places that offer cheap MOTs as they often fail the car on things the average person can't check and then make their money from doing the repairs.

#31: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: 2Oh!6, Location: Gloucester PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:30 am
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^ Don't go to Kwikfit lol.

#32: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: apjs87, Location: Plymouth PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:40 am
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2Oh!6 wrote:
^ Don't go to Kwikfit lol.

i'll second that. bunch of rip off merchants

#33: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:47 am
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apjs87 wrote:
2Oh!6 wrote:
^ Don't go to Kwikfit lol.

i'll second that. bunch of rip off merchants

Only suggested them for a quote. Open at reasonable hours and usually one close by. Be a good comparison in price.
Might even be worth having a second test done and see if it fails on the same. You could even appeal the original and have VOSA have a look. How many people know how to check the catalyst is working. Expensive bit of kit, and good profit on the job.

#34: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:55 am
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i bet even pug dealer would charge less than that

#35: Re: Dramatic MOT fail! What to do?? Author: doggydoctor, Location: Wrexham PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:40 pm
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Mine just failed on the catalytic convertor and cost me £150 to get it changed. It also needed a new lambda sonde? apparently. Cost me £285 including the mot including fitting.
I have no idea how much brakelines would be inc fitting.

#36: Re: MOT fail! What to do?? Author: jonny_fulton03, Location: Leeds PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:40 pm
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UPDATE: Got the car re-mot'd at a different garage and came back with half as many issues. Got a new catalyst,Drop link,Wishbone, and 2 brake lines for 275 quid! Bonus. Ive changed the title aswell to fit accordingly! Joni

#37: Re: MOT fail! What to do?? Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, Sussex PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:52 pm
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I remember someone on here got charged about £20 to change a bulb when they broke down the costs Laughing

#38: Re: MOT fail! What to do?? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:44 am
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jonny_fulton03 wrote:
UPDATE: Got the car re-mot'd at a different garage and came back with half as many issues. Got a new catalyst,Drop link,Wishbone, and 2 brake lines for 275 quid! Bonus. Ive changed the title aswell to fit accordingly! Joni

Get onto VOSA about the other place. Obviously d**k Turpin Motors. They will rig a few cars and send them in for MOTs and the end result is they may loose their MOT status. We don't need garages like that.
Glad you got it all sorted though, and next time take a deep breath, count to ten and just ask for help. Help on here costs nothing and I've found most of it to be useful, although I do have a mechanical background but never touched a 206 before. We're all learning.



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