#1: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: SteDuval1985, Location: LancashirePosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:53 am ---- My dipped bulbs are working fine, so are the main bulbs. However, when I switch to the main beam, both dipped beams go off.
I've checked connections and changed fuses for both sides and still the same problem.
Can anyone suggest what the problem is and how I can fix it?
#2: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:56 am ---- Year of 206?
What type of headlights are fitted?
#3: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: SteDuval1985, Location: LancashirePosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:02 am ---- 2001, 1.9d. I have crystals fitted, so twin h7s./
#4: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:04 am ----
SteDuval1985 wrote:
2001, 1.9d. I have crystals fitted, so twin h7s./
Did it leave the factory with crystals or have they been retrofitted?
Does the car have the correct headlamp stalk fitted as this needs to be changed as well when retrofitting crystals on a non plexed 206 like this?
#5: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: SteDuval1985, Location: LancashirePosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:37 am ---- I fitted them 4 years ago, and have a H4-H7 adaptor fitted (adaptor came with the relay). I never changed the stalk. The lights worked fine and so did the stalk from the point I changed them and it's only now that I've encountered the problem of the dipped beam going off when the mains are switched on. Last edited by SteDuval1985 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:40 am; edited 1 time in total
#6: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:37 am ---- if you have just fitted crystals they need a relay fitted also because frosted headlights are ment to do this basically lol
edit: sounds like the relay in the adapters gone wrong
#7: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: SteDuval1985, Location: LancashirePosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:39 am ---- I should also add that the passenger side main beam bulb blew last week, hence how I came to changing the bulbs and noticing this problem.
#8: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:41 am ---- maybe it was like this since 4 years ago? does the wiring adapter for the crystals have a relay wired into them (black cube) lol
#9: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: SteDuval1985, Location: LancashirePosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:43 am ---- No I've never encountered this until now. Yes, the adaptor came with the relay.
#10: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:45 am ---- lee and NorthantsBen are very knowledgable about headlight wiring adapters etc, hopefully one will input soon. if it was me though i would test that relay first because its the relays job to power the dipped lights when the main are activated.
#11: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: NorthantsBen, Location: Raunds, NorthamptonshirePosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:04 pm ---- Do you have the relay connected to the batt or another 12v source?
Or supply a pic of the wires if unsure?
It's not uncommon for relay to fail.
Edit...
A wire diagram for this should look similar to this.....
The adaptors may have a fuse fitted that may have blown.
#12: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: JordGJ, Location: Leeds / West MidlandsPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:37 pm ---- Replace the relay, might as well they are cheap, i had this problem a while ago in the same situation as you and the relay had failed, easy fix.
#13: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:40 pm ----
SteDuval1985 wrote:
No I've never encountered this until now. Yes, the adaptor came with the relay.
Get someone to operate the headlamps & listen for the relay clicking
You can unplug the relay & then short the 2 connections with a suitable bit of wire as a quick test OR swop the relay for a known working one.
You can on non plexed 206's change the 2 headlamp plugs & swop the headlamp switch instead of fitting the adaptor loom.
#14: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:12 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
SteDuval1985 wrote:
No I've never encountered this until now. Yes, the adaptor came with the relay.
Get someone to operate the headlamps & listen for the relay clicking
You can unplug the relay & then short the 2 connections with a suitable bit of wire as a quick test OR swop the relay for a known working one.
You can on non plexed 206's change the 2 headlamp plugs & swop the headlamp switch instead of fitting the adaptor loom.
You are assuming the person doing the test is absolutely flawless at shorting the correct points in the rellay socket.
This is not recomended incase the coil contacts are shorted inadvertedly which could lead to problems.
Changing the rellay is the prefered test in this situation no?
#15: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:15 pm ----
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
SteDuval1985 wrote:
No I've never encountered this until now. Yes, the adaptor came with the relay.
Get someone to operate the headlamps & listen for the relay clicking
You can unplug the relay & then short the 2 connections with a suitable bit of wire as a quick test OR swop the relay for a known working one.
You can on non plexed 206's change the 2 headlamp plugs & swop the headlamp switch instead of fitting the adaptor loom.
You are assuming the person doing the test is absolutely flawless at shorting the correct points in the rellay socket.
This is not recomended incase the coil contacts are shorted inadvertedly which could lead to problems.
Changing the rellay is the prefered test in this situation no?
The only problem it would cause is a blown fuse.
You would also have to be pretty clueless to short the wrong terminals out on the relay connector.
Also if the relay isnt at fault your gonna be out of pocket unless you happen to have spare relays laying around or know where to look on the car to borrow one from.
#16: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:26 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
SteDuval1985 wrote:
No I've never encountered this until now. Yes, the adaptor came with the relay.
Get someone to operate the headlamps & listen for the relay clicking
You can unplug the relay & then short the 2 connections with a suitable bit of wire as a quick test OR swop the relay for a known working one.
You can on non plexed 206's change the 2 headlamp plugs & swop the headlamp switch instead of fitting the adaptor loom.
You are assuming the person doing the test is absolutely flawless at shorting the correct points in the rellay socket.
This is not recomended incase the coil contacts are shorted inadvertedly which could lead to problems.
Changing the rellay is the prefered test in this situation no?
The only problem it would cause is a blown fuse.
You would also have to be pretty clueless to short the wrong terminals out on the relay connector.
Also if the relay isnt at fault your gonna be out of pocket unless you happen to have spare relays laying around or know where to look on the car to borrow one from.
You are going to be a lot more out of pocket IF when the fuse blows the BSI has a fit. clicky
Even highly experienced engineers specialising in this sort of stuff can short the wrong contacts for a quick test,
let alone someone who is trying to fix it themselves.
And yes this holds true for a lot of other work being done on a car, which
after-all is one of the few things which you use daily that can kill you or others.
Cheers.
#17: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:30 pm ----
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
SteDuval1985 wrote:
No I've never encountered this until now. Yes, the adaptor came with the relay.
Get someone to operate the headlamps & listen for the relay clicking
You can unplug the relay & then short the 2 connections with a suitable bit of wire as a quick test OR swop the relay for a known working one.
You can on non plexed 206's change the 2 headlamp plugs & swop the headlamp switch instead of fitting the adaptor loom.
You are assuming the person doing the test is absolutely flawless at shorting the correct points in the rellay socket.
This is not recomended incase the coil contacts are shorted inadvertedly which could lead to problems.
Changing the rellay is the prefered test in this situation no?
The only problem it would cause is a blown fuse.
You would also have to be pretty clueless to short the wrong terminals out on the relay connector.
Also if the relay isnt at fault your gonna be out of pocket unless you happen to have spare relays laying around or know where to look on the car to borrow one from.
You are going to be a lot more out of pocket IF when the fuse blows the BSI has a fit. clicky
Even highly experienced engineers specialising in this sort of stuff can short the wrong contacts for a quick test,
let alone someone who is trying to fix it themselves.
And yes this holds true for a lot of other work being done on a car, which
after-all is one of the few things which you use daily that can kill you or others.
Cheers.
Ok, ill change my advice so you dont hurt yourself when you fall off your high horse.
TAKE IT TO A PEUGEOT MAIN DEALER
Happy now
#18: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:30 pm ---- Just change the relay, they are only £3
I've blown loads in the past
#19: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: SteDuval1985, Location: LancashirePosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:42 am ---- Thanks for all your replies so far. I've taken a few pics so you can see the H7 adaptor (i.e. what relay's attached and fuse):
I changed the fuse (blue 15A) but still the same problem with the lights.
If it's a question of changing the relay, where do I get one like the one connected to the adaptor?
#20: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:49 am ---- Halfords should do them (4-pin 12V) or here: cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-PIN-R...4cf0138d4b
Looking at your last picture, the contacts seem a bit corroded. Might be worth sand-papering them and squirting
some WD-40 in there just in-case.
#21: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: NorthantsBen, Location: Raunds, NorthamptonshirePosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:07 pm ---- Relay does look like it's been exposed to some water or Somthing
May be a reason if it's the relay that's failed
#22: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: SteDuval1985, Location: LancashirePosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:56 am ---- I bought the relay from the link V9977 suggested yesterday; it arrived today.
Just been outside to swap the relays over and the lights are working as they should.
Many thanks guys
This can be filed under problem solved.
#23: Re: Dipped Beams Going Off When Switching to Main Beams Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:02 am ---- thought it might be the relay
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