#1: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Razpulsedj, Location: Partying with the Info ShufflersPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:28 am ---- Right ive just been out and bought some proper paint for my car which was made up and i was told it wont need laquer on top as it has a gloss finish anyway so do i need to wet n dry it after its 3rd coat of the paint or not, i want the best finish as possible.
Is it better to wet the sandpaper or have it dry for keying before paint?
Thanks, just confused
#2: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:30 am ---- Is it for inside or outside the car?
#3: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Jayde, Location: BrightonPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:34 am ---- I'd probably lacquer it lightly anyway for abit of protection
#4: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Razpulsedj, Location: Partying with the Info ShufflersPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:36 am ---- Outside and some bits inside, but the guy said thatit wont need any and this is coming from a professional car spraying shop
#5: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: kieron, Location: in the housePosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:36 am ---- Im in the middle of painting a panal on my scooter at the moment, i have followed this
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#6: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley)Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:36 am ---- If it's solid colour or high gloss then only give it a light de nibing after you have finished painting and it's fully dry but you will need a compound like g3 to bring the colour back up. If there is no dirt in the paint when you finished dont bother sanding and buffing it.
#7: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:39 am ---- Surely laqeur gives it it's hard protection coat?
#8: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:41 am ---- A lot of solid colours aren't lacquered, they just add something to the paint.
Thats why you can get something sprayed in a solid colour in a day
#9: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Jayde, Location: BrightonPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:41 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Surely laqeur gives it it's hard protection coat?
Agreed. At least tha'ts what I've been told with the vehicle paint I'm using
#10: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Razpulsedj, Location: Partying with the Info ShufflersPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:42 am ---- Yeah i was following same steps aswell but went to the shop and they just said i wouldnt need it?
If it has any nibs Nick do i use the sand paper wet or dry?
Yeah i thought the laquer hardernd the paint and protected it
#11: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Razpulsedj, Location: Partying with the Info ShufflersPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:43 am ----
Lee wrote:
A lot of solid colours aren't lacquered, they just add something to the paint.
Thats why you can get something sprayed in a solid colour in a day
Ahh right, so i dont need to add laquer once sprayeed because it already has some sort of it contained in the paint then
#12: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:54 am ----
Razpulsedj wrote:
Is it better to wet the sandpaper or have it dry for keying before paint?
Don't wet sand paper as it will fall to bits. If you're using "wet or dry" paper, I always use it wet. reduces dust and helps the paper glide over the surface, and helps reduce clogging.
#13: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Razpulsedj, Location: Partying with the Info ShufflersPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:59 am ----
macca1411 wrote:
Razpulsedj wrote:
Is it better to wet the sandpaper or have it dry for keying before paint?
Don't wet sand paper as it will fall to bits. If you're using "wet or dry" paper, I always use it wet. reduces dust and helps the paper glide over the surface, and helps reduce clogging.
Yeah im using the wet n dry paper so wet that and it will work fine?
#14: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:59 am ----
Razpulsedj wrote:
Lee wrote:
A lot of solid colours aren't lacquered, they just add something to the paint.
Thats why you can get something sprayed in a solid colour in a day
Ahh right, so i dont need to add laquer once sprayeed because it already has some sort of it contained in the paint then
Not sure if its the same for rattle can. Was my mate who's a sprayer that told me
#15: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Razpulsedj, Location: Partying with the Info ShufflersPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:02 am ---- ill just give it a shot then and see what the results are like, anything has got to be better than my matt black rear lights lol
#16: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:12 am ---- use the wet n dry paper wet mate. after your final spray use the wet n dry with a light water mist but you want something around 1800 grit or if you can 2000, for denibbing, then you need polish to get it perfect. from a coarse one moving up to a fine finishing polish.
hope this helps
#17: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Razpulsedj, Location: Partying with the Info ShufflersPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:17 am ---- It does help alot dan mate, damn i got the 1200 today aswell lol
I just rubbed the grab handles and they scuffed so yeah something alot finer im guessing
Thaanks everyone, ill post results once done
Shall be doing without laquer so fingers crossed, see if this guy knows his shizzle
#18: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:18 am ---- mate pm me your address.
ill send you some finer abrasive
#19: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley)Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:24 am ---- Use 2000 wet and dry (wet) maybe a bit of washing up liquid helps to provent u rubbing threw the paint. to de nib the paint you must makes sure the paint is 100% dry first
#20: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Razpulsedj, Location: Partying with the Info ShufflersPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:38 am ----
nick180 wrote:
Use 2000 wet and dry (wet) maybe a bit of washing up liquid helps to provent u rubbing threw the paint. to de nib the paint you must makes sure the paint is 100% dry first
ill nip down halfrauds and get me some then cheers
yeah ill leave the paint 24 hours before touching it anyway
Thanks everyone
#21: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: drunknmunky, Location: Blackburn and CatterickPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:42 am ----
Razpulsedj wrote:
nick180 wrote:
Use 2000 wet and dry (wet) maybe a bit of washing up liquid helps to provent u rubbing threw the paint. to de nib the paint you must makes sure the paint is 100% dry first
ill nip down halfrauds and get me some then cheers
yeah ill leave the paint 24 hours before touching it anyway
Thanks everyone
my halfords never have 2000 better going to another car shop if you have on local i found my local car shop had single sheets of 2000 at 70p a sheet
iv heard you could even use 2500 but you have to buy it off ebay afaik and its a finishing paper
#22: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info CodePosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:38 am ---- I always use 2500 Meg's stuff, it's amazing! Thats how I got the finish in the guide that's mentioned on here lol..
As Nick says Ryan make sure it's fulled cured (Dryed) first before you try and wet and dry it, if you're baking the paint on then do that and let it cool then you may be able to sand tomorrow, if your letting it dry naturally give it a good 2-3 days before trying to rub it down - if you do it too soon your just going to cause yourself more work in the long run.
#23: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: stevedude, Location: aldershotPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:47 am ---- what i dont get is after painting my badge, i lightly sanded the last coat, and it looked like id removed all the shine and sparkles, its pearlesante paint. then i coated it in lacquer and it all comes back.?
but the top coat was all scratched up, even thou its super fine scratches, surly it should looked shiny but with scratches under the lacquer..
#24: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:53 am ---- the lacquer will fill in the very fine scratches mate
#25: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: kieron, Location: in the housePosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:58 am ---- halford sell 2500 i got some the other day
#26: Re: Question about spraying, im confused Author: Razpulsedj, Location: Partying with the Info ShufflersPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:56 pm ---- Ste you mentioned Baking, whats that? In the oven im guessing? Wouldnt it just melt?
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