#1: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:53 am ---- Hi guys, made a idiots mistake and shorted the contacts when changing a bulb. Now the car won't start and central locking won't work. Car does turn over though but won't catch. I'm assuming I'v blew a fuse but which one do I look at?
btw, this was changing the interior boot light.
All replies are welcome as I need this sorting ASAP
Edit: It's plexed... Central locking works but not with the remote Last edited by Ash on Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:56 am; edited 1 time in total
#2: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:54 am ---- Plexed/Pre-plexed?
D!ck
#3: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Kersh, Location: Bridgnorth, Nr WolverhamptonPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:55 am ---- itll be plexed
#4: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:56 am ---- In that case: www.206info.co.uk/Foru...+list.html
(Correct link) Last edited by tomd0801754 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:00 am; edited 1 time in total
#5: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:58 am ---- If the clocks reset, am I f****d
#6: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:01 am ---- Try a BSI reboot, check the relevent fuses..
#7: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Seabook, Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:06 am ---- check all fuse,
reset bsi and hope for the best.
P.S. disconnect the battery before playing with fuse or changing bulbs etc.
#8: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:10 am ---- I'v checked all the fuses... It's just the interior light one that's gone. The car should start without it right... so BSI Reset time I think...
#9: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:14 am ---- Fingers crossed for you.
(But you should know better )
#10: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:18 am ----
CD-vRS wrote:
Fingers crossed for you.
(But you should know better )
I agree
#11: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:22 am ---- Okay, did a BSI reset... car doesn't start! Eco Mode is displaying though the batt does have charge... I believe am f****d unless I'v missed a fuse? I'v checked engine bay and under the steering wheel?
#12: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:23 am ----
Ash wrote:
Okay, did a BSI reset... car doesn't start! Eco Mode is displaying though the batt does have charge... I believe am f****d unless I'v missed a fuse? I'v checked engine bay and under the steering wheel?
Doesn't sound good.
Edit:
Try leaving the battery disconnected for a few mins, then do another BSI reset.
#13: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:24 am ---- Ahhh why won't Lee pick up his phone when I need him!
Right... I'm going out with the multimeter again... I swear the sidelights didn't even come on when I flicked them!
#14: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:26 am ---- Have you physically removed every fuse?
I really never expected a thread like this from you mate!
#15: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:28 am ---- i hope you havnt killed the bsi there has been a number of people doing this by changing bulbs on here recently! its stupid how such a simple thing can make such a huge repair bill
#16: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:28 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Have you physically removed every fuse?
I really never expected a thread like this from you mate!
Neither did I...
I'v multi metered them all from the top terminals using continuity test. Only the interior light fuse is blown but that shouldn't stop the car from starting. When I did the BSI reset and put the sidelights on, they didn't actually turn on!? Ahhhh f*** I'm just hoping I'v missing something flaming obvious..
#17: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info CodePosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:33 am ---- Eco Mode displays even will a full battery, it does it if you leave the door open for too long and sometimes if you leave something turned on that could drain the battery basically to save your battery from going flat.
My car does this all the time when I'm sat in it at shows with the door open, it turns the interior light off and displays eco mode..
Have you checked, and double checked and checked every fuse again? Sometimes they're blown but don't look it, have you got a fuse tester at hand?!
The fuse you may have blown will be #4 inside the car under the steering wheel, which is a 20A fuse for the boot light, auto and steering wheel controls ect.
Also check fuse #7 in the engine compartment, and Fuse's #8 & #15 are linked to the ECU AFAIK so check them too.
#18: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:33 am ---- Have you actually replaced the fuse? Do that then try again
There was someone a while ago who had exatly the same problem because they installed an aftermarket HU but when they changed it back to standard it worked.
Weird but worth a try,
#19: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info CodePosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:34 am ----
Ash wrote:
tomd0801754 wrote:
Have you physically removed every fuse?
I really never expected a thread like this from you mate!
Neither did I...
I'v multi metered them all from the top terminals using continuity test. Only the interior light fuse is blown but that shouldn't stop the car from starting. When I did the BSI reset and put the sidelights on, they didn't actually turn on!? Ahhhh f*** I'm just hoping I'v missing something flaming obvious..
Remove each fuse and test them from the legs, top terminals can give a false reading if they're connected to the car still as it can loop the system
#20: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:41 am ----
Ste206 wrote:
Eco Mode displays even will a full battery, it does it if you leave the door open for too long and sometimes if you leave something turned on that could drain the battery basically to save your battery from going flat.
My car does this all the time when I'm sat in it at shows with the door open, it turns the interior light off and displays eco mode..
Have you checked, and double checked and checked every fuse again? Sometimes they're blown but don't look it, have you got a fuse tester at hand?!
The fuse you may have blown will be #4 inside the car under the steering wheel, which is a 20A fuse for the boot light, auto and steering wheel controls ect.
Also check fuse #7 in the engine compartment, and Fuse's #8 & #15 are linked to the ECU AFAIK so check them too.
Okay Ste, will do. I'll pull them all out if needs be... It turns over... but it's either not sparking or not injecting fuel... I think it's the second one though.
#21: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:46 am ---- Is that not down to the immobiliser then?
#22: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:47 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Is that not down to the immobiliser then?
Well yeh, that's what I'm thinking as the car locks with the key but not the remote (button)?
#23: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info CodePosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:57 am ---- Is the fuel pump priming?
#24: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:59 am ----
Ste206 wrote:
Is the fuel pump priming?
I can't remember it doing so... Wait, I'll go connect the battery and try and start it... I left it for a bit.
#25: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info CodePosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:00 am ----
Ash wrote:
Ste206 wrote:
Is the fuel pump priming?
I can't remember it doing so... Wait, I'll go connect the battery and try and start it... I left it for a bit.
Alright well engine box fuse #15 is also for the Ignition coil and injectors, but if the fuel pump doesnt prime its something more as thats a different fuse location (#2 IIRC)
#26: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:14 am ----
Ste206 wrote:
Ash wrote:
Ste206 wrote:
Is the fuel pump priming?
I can't remember it doing so... Wait, I'll go connect the battery and try and start it... I left it for a bit.
Alright well engine box fuse #15 is also for the Ignition coil and injectors, but if the fuel pump doesnt prime its something more as thats a different fuse location (#2 IIRC)
It's bad.
Okay... Re-connect the battery the way you're spose to..
I turn the sidelights on and nothing happens.
Wait a bit, then put the key in.
The sidelights then come on... The pump DOES prime. Try to start the car and nothing. (I'm getting scared I'm flooding the cylinders now).
If you turn the sidelights off with the key in, they stay on. Pull the key out and the sidelights go off.
It's f****d isn't it..
#27: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:15 am ----
Ash wrote:
Ste206 wrote:
Ash wrote:
Ste206 wrote:
Is the fuel pump priming?
I can't remember it doing so... Wait, I'll go connect the battery and try and start it... I left it for a bit.
Alright well engine box fuse #15 is also for the Ignition coil and injectors, but if the fuel pump doesnt prime its something more as thats a different fuse location (#2 IIRC)
It's bad.
Okay... Re-connect the battery the way you're spose to..
I turn the sidelights on and nothing happens.
Wait a bit, then put the key in.
The sidelights then come on... The pump DOES prime. Try to start the car and nothing. (I'm getting scared I'm flooding the cylinders now).
If you turn the sidelights off with the key in, they stay on. Pull the key out and the sidelights go off.
It's f****d isn't it..
#28: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info CodePosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:53 am ---- I dont like the sound of the last 2 paragraphs o.O
Have you pulled EVERY fuse out, checked over the two legs with a tester and put them back where they're from?
Testing over the contacts at the top sometimes gives false readings, thats the only hope I can think of for it been a simple fix, hopefully there's something more that could be checked that I'm not thinking about / know of.
#29: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:08 am ---- Ermmm i was going to laugh at you
Buts its over
New BSi, ECU and key
#30: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:10 am ---- Never mind peoples, he has fixed it
The fuse stopped the car from starting
#31: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Dabamash, Location: The car in frontPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:18 am ----
Addaz wrote:
Never mind peoples, he has fixed it
The fuse stopped the car from starting
Lmao, good to hear
#32: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info CodePosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:42 am ----
Addaz wrote:
Never mind peoples, he has fixed it
The fuse stopped the car from starting
Which fuse?
#33: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:12 am ----
Ste206 wrote:
Addaz wrote:
Never mind peoples, he has fixed it
The fuse stopped the car from starting
Which fuse?
Interior light fuse
#34: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Matt, Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:19 am ---- What a cu*t Last edited by Matt on Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:29 am; edited 1 time in total
#35: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info CodePosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:11 am ----
Addaz wrote:
Ste206 wrote:
Addaz wrote:
Never mind peoples, he has fixed it
The fuse stopped the car from starting
Which fuse?
Interior light fuse
lol bad times, the int light never stops my car starting never blown the boot light fuse but the interior one I've blown twice lol
#36: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Seabook, Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:22 am ---- shame is not a cooked bsi
#37: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:02 pm ----
Ste206 wrote:
Addaz wrote:
Ste206 wrote:
Addaz wrote:
Never mind peoples, he has fixed it
The fuse stopped the car from starting
Which fuse?
Interior light fuse
lol bad times, the int light never stops my car starting never blown the boot light fuse but the interior one I've blown twice lol
I really don't get how the f*** a interior light fuse would stop a car for starting... but then again, it's a Pug 206, anything is possible...
#38: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info CodePosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:05 pm ---- Me either, like I say I've popped mine twice and the cars started fine, however I've never popped the one for the boot light, as there different fuses, might take it out tomorrow and test to see if the car will start, may be a useful bit of info for the future lol!
Glad you've got it running again though mate, got worried for you for a while back there! lol
#39: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: namgaj, Location: Chasing Ash, Addaz and Lee........... hopefully catching Addaz and havin fun :PPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:12 pm ---- Ash tray you STUPID BOY!! Glad you sorted it though at a cost of about 30 pence haha
#40: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:18 pm ---- Interior light fuse shared the same fuse as some ignition wires and a protected wire from the engine fuse box, which will go into protective mode when the fuse will have been triggered
#41: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: mikey101, Location: CoventryPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 5:36 pm ---- HAD THIS TODAY after fitting a new AM headunit. I'm laughing now because it's sorted but I got so scared and do not wish this upon anyone :(
#42: Re: Ash: Oh dear... car won't start. Author: bashyy1, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:37 am ---- lol what a story
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there has been a number of people doing this by changing bulbs on here recently! its stupid how such a simple thing can make such a huge repair bill
well engine box fuse #15 is also for the Ignition coil and injectors, but if the fuel pump doesnt prime its something more as thats a different fuse location (#2 IIRC)
never blown the boot light fuse but the interior one I've blown twice lol
