#1: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:10 pm ---- my son recently got himself a 307 rapier 1.6, its been running fine for a month, but this week decided to play up.
what is happening is when driving, the car will begin to hessitate, big drop in power ( around 20 mph full excelleration) or even just cut out altogether.
the engine management light will be lit up once this all happens.
... the car would then need around 10-15 mins before it will start again, and run for around 5-10 miles before repeat of the above problems.
the car has been back to the garage , and they said it was the coil pack and they replaced it .. 3 days later, and the problem has returned.
its going back in again on tuesday, but is there anything else that could cause these issues so i can question whether they have checked everything or just guessing.
edit: warning showing "catalic converter fault"
#2: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:39 pm ---- Needs code reading.
Whats the year, I'll see if there was any service bulletins. 8v or 16v?
#3: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:42 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Needs code reading.
Whats the year, I'll see if there was any service bulletins. 8v or 16v?
registration is:
MA51 LXY
.. vin is: VF33ANFUB82159973
pretty sure its 8v
said to him that you may need to pay him a visit
.......... then you can read mine too
#4: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:59 pm ---- It's had s**t loads of repairs under warranty
Affected vehicles
All models with TU5JP4 (NFU) engine code.
Problem
Poor starting.
Engine stalls.
Hesitation when accelerating.
Cause
Poor connection in engine management harness multi-plugs due to vibration.
Remedy
Parts
Description Part number Quantity
Connector kit 6541.S2 1
Cable tie 2
Check wiring harness multi-plug to intake air temperature (IAT) sensor/manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor Fig.1 [1] .
Check wiring harness multi-plug to throttle motor position sensor/throttle motor Fig.1 [2] .
Repair wiring harness using connector kit.
Fit cable ties around multi-plugs and wiring harness to prevent vibration causing poor connection Fig.1 [3] .
Program throttle motor.
Switch ignition ON for 35 seconds. Do not depress accelerator pedal.
Install upgraded engine control module (ECM) software.
Fig.113548
#5: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:03 pm ---- oh its 16v btw
#6: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:09 pm ---- cheers lee.
funnily enough, when it was taken in to be checked , it was one day out of warranty.. but they was gonna honour the coil pack anyway.
.... also loaned him a replacement motor too.
seems to me that its possible the sensors are arsing up due to vibration.
what do you think?
.... oh and on a sidenote, how much for a reading or two , postcode is st14 5nw
#7: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:19 pm ---- Warranty expired on 17/09/2004 unless it was renewed after.
Yeah does seem like a sensor, maybe the MAP or the TPS not detecting the accelerator.
About £55, that would include traveling to yours, code reading both cars, changing any options in the cars and coding any keys you want doing. I've based it on the fuel cost [3 hour round trip], and buy one get one half price on the code reading, etc
#8: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:28 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Warranty expired on 17/09/2004 unless it was renewed after.
Yeah does seem like a sensor, maybe the MAP or the TPS not detecting the accelerator.
About £55, that would include traveling to yours, code reading both cars, changing any options in the cars and coding any keys you want doing. I've based it on the fuel cost [3 hour round trip], and buy one get one half price on the code reading, etc
nice one , your hired
might even provide bacon butties too
as already stated, its due to go back to the garage on tuesday .. just let me know when you can come , but money is waiting for you
ill pm my full address once i know when
thanks lee
#9: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:38 pm ---- Yeah just let me know
I do work and have exams soon, so will have to work around that unfortunately :/
#10: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:44 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Yeah just let me know
I do work and have exams soon, so will have to work around that unfortunately :/
no probs , whenever u can get here lee .... any day or time is fine for me
#11: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:45 pm ---- Just let me know, and we'll go from there
#12: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:49 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Just let me know, and we'll go from there
k mate .. sending my details via pm now
#13: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:21 pm ---- Lee, please move to Scotland.
Cheers.
#14: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:33 pm ----
G. wrote:
Lee, please move to Scotland.
Cheers.
Might be coming there towards the end of May
Tullibody
#15: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:37 pm ---- Ahh thats about half an hour away or so. Might get some code reading done! I think Brian is choking for a BSI update too seeing as his keeps spazzing out but he doesn't wanna pay dealership prices. Not too sure if I want the scare of a code reading done really though
#16: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:45 pm ---- Can't do BSI updates, no aftermarket place will do them :/
Dealer only I'm afraid for them
#17: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:35 pm ----
perry081064 wrote:
my son recently got himself a 307 rapier 1.6
You dont like your son much if you allowed him to buy a 307
#18: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:48 pm ---- Only the CAN-VAN models that are s**te, isnt it?
#19: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:51 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Only the CAN-VAN models that are s**te, isnt it?
Pretty much & this one falls in to that catagory
The later CAN CAN all Bosch multiplex systems are a lot better electrically, end of the day its still a 307 though
#20: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:16 pm ---- many thanks to lee for coming out to read the 2 motors today
307
seems after clearing the previous errors , its reading a faulty coilpack still.
..obviously the one that was replaced was cack.
206 HDI
aircon needs regass, revcounter on speedo not working ( still waiting for a replacement)
also, i hadnt noticed , fan not working ( but easily fixed )
..gonna give the dealer the bill for lees work too
#21: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:20 pm ---- Coilpack needs to be a genuine Bouricord item.
Spark plugs need to be Bosch.
NEVER pug NGK spark plugs in a PSA petrol engine with the all in one coil pack
#22: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:28 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Coilpack needs to be a genuine Bouricord item.
Spark plugs need to be Bosch.
NEVER pug NGK spark plugs in a PSA petrol engine with the all in one coil pack
havent looked in there yet to see whats there to be honest
duly noted , and will insist on that when returned to dealer on tuesday
#23: Re: not a 206 but a 307 problem. Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:31 pm ---- These PSA petrol engines use a phase detection system for detecting misfires, they are very picky on there choice of coil pack & sparkplugs
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