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Deadlocking?
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#1: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:52 am
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How do you enable/disable deadlocking?

(There are no buttons by the handbrake even though the car came with
an alarm from the factory)

Cheers.

#2: Re: Deadlocking? Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:53 am
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Push the key fob button twice isn't it?

#3: Re: Deadlocking? Author: MrZiggerz, Location: Milton Keynes PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:54 am
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Mines the smaller button on the Fob after locking the car.

#4: Re: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:57 am
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Key fob is the newer two-button lock/unlock type.
This is for a 2007 pug.

#5: Re: Deadlocking? Author: C-MAN, Location: Redditch PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:59 am
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V9977 wrote:
How do you enable/disable deadlocking?

(There are no buttons by the handbrake even though the car came with
an alarm from the factory)

Cheers.

Some 206's dont have deadlocking, are you 100% sure yours does?

#6: Re: Deadlocking? Author: MrZiggerz, Location: Milton Keynes PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:59 am
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Tried holding it for 5 seconds or so? - OR do what CD said?

#7: Re: Deadlocking? Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:02 am
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MrZiggerz wrote:
Tried holding it for 5 seconds or so? - OR do what CD said?

Thinking about it I recall holding the button.

#8: Re: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:03 am
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CD-vRS wrote:
MrZiggerz wrote:
Tried holding it for 5 seconds or so? - OR do what CD said?

Thinking about it I recall holding the button.

It won't get the key into the dreaded sync procedure holding it down will it?

#9: Re: Deadlocking? Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:06 am
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V9977 wrote:
CD-vRS wrote:
MrZiggerz wrote:
Tried holding it for 5 seconds or so? - OR do what CD said?

Thinking about it I recall holding the button.

It won't get the key into the dreaded sync procedure holding it down will it?

Pretty sure the key has to be in the ignition and turned 1 click to do that.

#10: Re: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:09 am
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CD-vRS wrote:
Pretty sure the key has to be in the ignition and turned 1 click to do that.

Not on my single-button old style one.



C-MAN wrote:
Some 206's dont have deadlocking, are you 100% sure yours does?

Nope. But its for a 2007 with deadlocking solenoid locks by the looks of them.

#11: Re: Deadlocking? Author: leigh_boy, Location: Eastbourne PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:07 am
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you probabbly need to re sysnc the key not hard to do

#12: Re: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:59 am
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leigh_boy wrote:
you probabbly need to re sysnc the key not hard to do


??



V9977 wrote:
How do you enable/disable deadlocking?

(There are no buttons by the handbrake even though the car came with
an alarm from the factory)

Cheers.

#13: Re: Deadlocking? Author: Jacko27, Location: Hinckley PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:39 am
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mines a 53 plate, have 2 buttons on the fob one to lock and another to unlock, to deadlock my car i just press the lock button 2 times.

#14: Re: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:49 am
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OK, cheers all.
Will try and let you know.

#15: Re: Deadlocking? Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:53 am
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Jacko27 wrote:
mines a 53 plate, have 2 buttons on the fob one to lock and another to unlock, to deadlock my car i just press the lock button 2 times.

In the handbook, it says that you press the lock button once and it dead locks it. If you press it the second time within 5 seconds, it disables the deadlock. (This is on the new key type)
It also works the same way if locking by key in the door.

On older 2 button type keys, you press the pug logo button to lock, then the smaller button to deadlock.

#16: Re: Deadlocking? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:12 am
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Jacko27 wrote:
mines a 53 plate, have 2 buttons on the fob one to lock and another to unlock, to deadlock my car i just press the lock button 2 times.

NOT on a 53 plate you dont Wink

ONE press only of the lock button on the remote fob on a multiplexed 206 to deadlock it!

Pressing the lock button a 2nd time removes the deadlocks leaving the car just on the central locking & will also turn the alarm system OFF ( older BSI software versions only! )

#17: Re: Deadlocking? Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:13 am
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pretty much what I put Razz

#18: Re: Deadlocking? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:18 am
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Later BSI software versions the alarm system still stays armed if you do the 2nd button press to remove the deadlocks.

#19: Re: Deadlocking? Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:22 am
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Why would people want to disable the deadlock anyway?

#20: Re: Deadlocking? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:25 am
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Abzynthe wrote:
Why would people want to disable the deadlock anyway?

No idea, then again deadlocks on a 206 dont really slow a skilled car thief down Laughing

#21: Re: Deadlocking? Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:35 am
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I find it quite amusing when my gf doesnt get out of the car quick enough Razz

#22: Re: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:01 am
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Nope.
Ain't got it.

Just checked as well and the rear lock connectors have four pins instead of five.
However 5 wires go to them which is why I got fooled.

#23: Re: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:06 am
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V9977 wrote:
Nope.
Ain't got it.

Just checked as well and the rear lock connectors have four pins instead of five.
However 5 wires go to them which is why I got fooled.

Trying to sort-out stuck lock-solenoid/motor ATM.
Anyone have a N/S/Rear 4-pin they are selling?
Also interested in O/S/Rear 5-pin. Wink

#24: Re: Deadlocking? Author: Jacko27, Location: Hinckley PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 12:00 pm
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MrBSI wrote:
Jacko27 wrote:
mines a 53 plate, have 2 buttons on the fob one to lock and another to unlock, to deadlock my car i just press the lock button 2 times.

NOT on a 53 plate you dont Wink

ONE press only of the lock button on the remote fob on a multiplexed 206 to deadlock it!

Pressing the lock button a 2nd time removes the deadlocks leaving the car just on the central locking & will also turn the alarm system OFF ( older BSI software versions only! )

hmmm interesting i never had a handbook with mine or service history so i just assumed pressing it twice would deadlock it becuase of the clunging noise it makes lol, my alarm still goes off when i press it twice must have the old bsi software on mine.

#25: Re: Deadlocking? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:19 pm
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Jacko27 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Jacko27 wrote:
mines a 53 plate, have 2 buttons on the fob one to lock and another to unlock, to deadlock my car i just press the lock button 2 times.

NOT on a 53 plate you dont Wink

ONE press only of the lock button on the remote fob on a multiplexed 206 to deadlock it!

Pressing the lock button a 2nd time removes the deadlocks leaving the car just on the central locking & will also turn the alarm system OFF ( older BSI software versions only! )

hmmm interesting i never had a handbook with mine or service history so i just assumed pressing it twice would deadlock it becuase of the clunging noise it makes lol, my alarm still goes off when i press it twice must have the old bsi software on mine.

Handbooks are on the Peugeot website to view for FREE

public.servicebox.peug..._en_us.htm

You have newer BSI software if the alarm goes of without deadlocking being active Wink

One press to deadlock is all you need.

#26: Re: Deadlocking? Author: Harry, Location: Stafford PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:53 pm
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Going to look a moron now, but what's deadlocking?..

#27: Re: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:01 pm
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Harry wrote:
Going to look a moron now, but what's deadlocking?..

Its a mode of locking whereby the door will not open even if the handle is pulled from
the inside of the car, or the locking pin is lifted (if there is one).

It makes it more difficult for thieving gits to gain easy access by breaking a window
for example and pulling the handle from the inside.

It is also has other uses which I'm not inclined to discuss.

#28: Re: Deadlocking? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:46 am
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Harry wrote:
Going to look a moron now, but what's deadlocking?..

I wouldnt worry if you dont have it as the system fitted to the 206 is pretty simple to beat without damaging the door Wink

#29: Re: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:44 am
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MrBSI wrote:
Harry wrote:
Going to look a moron now, but what's deadlocking?..

I wouldnt worry if you dont have it as the system fitted to the 206 is pretty simple to beat without damaging the door Wink

Unless you're talking about a scanner (in which case all cars have a problem)
I can't easily see how you'll open the lock without damaging the door.

You can have a go at the key barell but that does not always work.
And it certainly provides additional protection from your average thiving git.

#30: Re: Deadlocking? Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:45 am
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If your adding deadlocking, you need to change the settings in the BSI too

#31: Re: Deadlocking? Author: Jacko27, Location: Hinckley PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:51 am
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thanks for that link MrBSI, learnt some new things about my car now cheers Thumb Up

#32: Re: Deadlocking? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:55 am
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Lee wrote:
If your adding deadlocking, you need to change the settings in the BSI too

I thought of this but decided against it due to cost for the time being.

However have replaced the rear two lock mechanisms with deadlocking ones for the following reason:

The child-lock mode (red control) makes it so that the inside handle is permanently disabled.
This means someone has to let the grotlings out by opening from the outside everytime.

However with a deadlock version of the same lock (5-pin) the inside handle is disabled when locked and will not unlock when pulled even if it is not deadlocked. Ofcourse, the locking-pin also has to be removed but on our vehicle there isn't one.

#33: Re: Deadlocking? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:36 am
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V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Harry wrote:
Going to look a moron now, but what's deadlocking?..

I wouldnt worry if you dont have it as the system fitted to the 206 is pretty simple to beat without damaging the door Wink

Unless you're talking about a scanner (in which case all cars have a problem)
I can't easily see how you'll open the lock without damaging the door.

You can have a go at the key barell but that does not always work.
And it certainly provides additional protection from your average thiving git.

Scanner is useless on a UK spec 206 due to anti scan & rolling code built in to the remote locking system that is needed for Thatcham certification.

The lock barrel design is over 20+ years old & are p**s easy to pick.

As for the locking mechanism inside the door the shielding is poor & easily beaten.

#34: Re: Deadlocking? Author: Harry, Location: Stafford PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:08 am
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Ah thanks explains it thanks Smile most of the details went over my head though Laughing

#35: Re: Deadlocking? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:10 am
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You can retrofit it if you want but you need the BSI tweaking to get it working.

Only the doors have deadlocks on, the boot doesnt.



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