#1: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:49 am ---- Just noticed this on my way to work this morning. It's a nice, sunny day here but I could see the reflection of my headlights in the rear of the car in front of me and when I looked at the dash the lights were on but then they went off by themselves a few seconds later . They did it again but this time I switched the lights on at the stalk and then off again and they went off. What could be causing this?
#2: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Mikey2uk, Location: StevenagePosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:50 am ---- Have you got Autolights??
#3: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:53 am ---- The com2000 is gonna be defective, 02 plate 206, its gonna be on the original com unit
#4: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: meady, Location: basingstokePosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:58 am ---- pmd
#5: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:00 am ---- So if it's the com unit, how much is that gonna take to get fixed?
#6: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:01 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
The com2000 is gonna be defective, 02 plate 206, its gonna be on the original com unit
Not necessarily.
I had a brand new com2000 unit fitted by Peugeot.
The lights come on in low light or very bright sunlight.
#7: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:27 am ---- I've read around that some 206's have auto-headlights, and this feature can be turned off or on accordingly. How can I check if these apply on my car? Bit of a long shot, but you never know!
#8: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:29 am ---- i think it says in the manual!
#9: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: meady, Location: basingstokePosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:31 am ---- On the end of one of the stalks there is a button that says auto. Tht is for the auto lights. Turn the key to ignition but don't start the engine then hold the auto button down for a few seconds, u should here a bong noise and on the display it should say auto lights activated or deactivated
#10: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:46 am ---- OK, I'll get looking at the stalk at lunchtime. I do remember pressing the end of the stalk before and there is a button on it, but I never checked to see what it was. The only reason I pressed it is because that button is where the horn is on my old 306 and I was still getting used to the new 206 layout where the horn is now on the steering wheel itself! Perhaps I do have auto-headlights, or is the button on all stalks but only wired up on auto-headlight models?
#11: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:00 am ---- Right, the stalk does have Auto on it and I have tried the steps above but there was no beeping sound or anything and no message on the display. Hmmm
#12: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Matt, Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:45 am ---- You need to turn key to first click. Then press the end button on the left stick in and hold until the bong.
#13: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: loudnproud, Location: derbyPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:33 am ---- i have same problem on my 03 plate 206 sounds like comms on way out,roughly 160-170 for unit + whatever someone charges to fit,do your indicators stop after a few flashes and activate the headlights?
#14: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:36 am ---- Fit the Com2000 yourself
#15: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:40 am ---- I don't have any other problems with my lights, only that the headlights and backlight for the dash come on automatically if the car thinks it's dark, which it isn't! I have tried pushing the auto button in with the key at one click and two clicks but no beep or message to say the auto feature has been turned on or off.
#16: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:41 am ---- Do you have the sensor behind the rear view mirror?
#17: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:51 am ---- As far as I can tell yes, there's a black rectangle there which I believe is the sensor
#18: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Matt, Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:52 am ---- You don't push it you have to hold it it until your hear the bong.
At a guess 5 secs or so.
#19: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:23 am ---- I am pushing it and holding it in. I tried for 10 seconds and then 15 seconds and still nothing.
#20: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:32 am ---- What model of 206 is it?
#21: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:37 pm ---- September 2002 Style 1.4 HDi
#22: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:43 pm ---- Im pretty sure a Style spec hasnt got either auto headlamps or auto wipers fitted as standard.
Is there the rain / light sensor fitted top middle of the windscreen, the rear view mirror has a large shroud over it, there will also be a thin black wire running down from headlining to behind the shroud.
#23: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:44 pm ---- Just let us know your chassis number and we can check it up for you
#24: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:27 pm ---- If the style spec doesn't have auto lights etc. why does the stalk have the button and wording for it, wouldn't they have taken that off so as not to confuse people?
Where would I find the chassis number? I'm not a car type person so wouldn't know where to look for it!
#25: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:35 pm ---- The COM2000 might have been replaced in the past.
The log book, MOT certificate, Bottom left of the window, stamped in the chassis on the right when you open the boot, on a metal plate near the catch for the boot on the inside.
Need either the full 17 digits or the last 8
#26: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:09 pm ---- Last 8 digits - 42731323
#27: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:14 pm ---- Auto lights = Not fitted as standard.
COM2000 has been replaced with a autolights one
#28: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:28 pm ---- How can u tell that from that number?
What can you tell me about my car
#29: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:30 pm ---- Just look at what it left the factory with, and what it had fixed under warrenty
#30: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:32 pm ---- I daren't ask, but looking at what my car has had fixed under warranty, have I bought a piece of scrap?!
#31: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:37 pm ----
PaddyC wrote:
I daren't ask, but looking at what my car has had fixed under warranty, have I bought a piece of scrap?!
Bottom pulley @ 26194 miles on 10/05/2005
Glow plugs, EGR and exhaust @ 16241 miles on 30/04/2004
#32: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:39 pm ---- What's EGR?
If the COM2000 has been replaced with the auto-headlight version is it possible to add the feature by adding extra wiring or anything or is it just a useless button?
#33: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:40 pm ---- Could you do a rundown of mine? im really curious to know now hehe
#34: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:42 pm ----
PaddyC wrote:
What's EGR?
If the COM2000 has been replaced with the auto-headlight version is it possible to add the feature by adding extra wiring or anything or is it just a useless button?
Exhaust gas re-circulation. Some people remove/block it anyway as a performance mod.
@mattymj - sure
#35: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:45 pm ---- Thanks Lee
So, if it's not the COM2000 as it has the equipment for the auto-headlights but just no wiring for it, I wonder what could cause the headlights to come on by themselves.
#36: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:45 pm ---- Last 8 = 43754091
Thanks
#37: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:46 pm ----
PaddyC wrote:
Thanks Lee
So, if it's not the COM2000 as it has the equipment for the auto-headlights but just no wiring for it, I wonder what could cause the headlights to come on by themselves.
Might be a faulty com2000
To retrofit Autolights, you need a sensor and the BSI settings editing
#38: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:55 pm ----
mattymj wrote:
Last 8 = 43754091
Thanks
Or do you need all the numbers?
#39: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:55 pm ----
mattymj wrote:
Last 8 = 43754091
Thanks
Removal & repair of transmission @ 36662 miles on 06/07/2007
New n/s and o/s suspension arm @ 32708 miles on 05/04/2007
new starter motor @ 25455 miles on 11/08/2006
new front left and right wheel @ 19018 miles on 09/03/2006
BSI update @ 14452 miles on 01/09/2005
New radio @ 12329 miles on 30/06/2005
Radio repair @ 7744 miles on 23/06/2005
Injection and ignition download @ 7744 miles on 31/01/2005
#40: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:22 pm ----
Lee wrote:
mattymj wrote:
Last 8 = 43754091
Thanks
Removal & repair of transmission @ 36662 miles on 06/07/2007
New n/s and o/s suspension arm @ 32708 miles on 05/04/2007
new starter motor @ 25455 miles on 11/08/2006
new front left and right wheel @ 19018 miles on 09/03/2006
BSI update @ 14452 miles on 01/09/2005 New radio @ 12329 miles on 30/06/2005
Radio repair @ 7744 miles on 23/06/2005
Injection and ignition download @ 7744 miles on 31/01/2005
Thats a lot of mileage in one week
#41: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:25 pm ---- Wow that's really interesting, thanks for looking.
#42: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:31 pm ----
macca1411 wrote:
Lee wrote:
mattymj wrote:
Last 8 = 43754091
Thanks
Removal & repair of transmission @ 36662 miles on 06/07/2007
New n/s and o/s suspension arm @ 32708 miles on 05/04/2007
new starter motor @ 25455 miles on 11/08/2006
new front left and right wheel @ 19018 miles on 09/03/2006
BSI update @ 14452 miles on 01/09/2005 New radio @ 12329 miles on 30/06/2005
Radio repair @ 7744 miles on 23/06/2005
Injection and ignition download @ 7744 miles on 31/01/2005
Thats a lot of mileage in one week
Either that, or the Radio repair mileage was noted down wrong as it did no miles in the 5 months between that and the ECU update
#43: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:41 pm ---- P.S I have always been curious of the history of my girlfriends car. Is that something you can also look at?
13044627
Thanks
#44: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:43 pm ----
mattymj wrote:
P.S I have always been curious of the history of my girlfriends car. Is that something you can also look at?
13044627
Thanks
what car is that?
#45: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:46 pm ---- Corsa
#46: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:50 pm ----
mattymj wrote:
Corsa
Then no
Out of interest is this the full VIN? ZFA17900013044627
Peugeot, Citroen, Kia, Hyundai or Ford [a little bit]
#47: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:54 pm ---- Not to worry Lee.
That is different to the full vin i have !!
#48: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:56 pm ----
mattymj wrote:
Not to worry Lee.
That is different to the full vin i have !!
Was just wondering, didn't think it would be right.
#49: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:00 pm ---- I did ask pug about doing a bsi update to enable auto locking and rear wiper reversing etc but they said they couldn't do it!!!
#50: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:02 pm ----
mattymj wrote:
I did ask pug about doing a bsi update to enable auto locking and rear wiper reversing etc but they said they couldn't do it!!!
Defiantly can do the rear wiper thing, couldn't tell you about the auto locking without pluggiing the laptop in
#51: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:22 am ----
Lee wrote:
what it had fixed under warrenty
Ill pm you the VIN for mine, I wanna see how many warranty fixes show up
#52: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:13 pm ---- Just an update on this. It stopped happening for a while but has started to rear its ugly head again.
The headlight still come on randomly and also when I'm indicating, and will go off again once the indicator stops. So do I need to replace the Com2000 unit to fix this or can it be plugged into the software on a laptop and deactivated or what?
#53: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:11 am ---- Right, I'm getting worried now. Was driving home last night and when I went to indicate off a main road onto a side road the headlights went out on me completely and I had to scramble quickly to get them back on again to see what was in front of me. I completely s**t myself. I don't want this happening again so should I take it to Peugeot and get them to fix it (whatever could be wrong) or should I look about getting something myself? I notice that the stalk for the lights is a good deal more 'slack' than the wiper stalk, maybe it just needs tightening up or there's a loose connection?
#54: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:54 pm ----
PaddyC wrote:
Right, I'm getting worried now. Was driving home last night and when I went to indicate off a main road onto a side road the headlights went out on me completely and I had to scramble quickly to get them back on again to see what was in front of me. I completely s**t myself. I don't want this happening again so should I take it to Peugeot and get them to fix it (whatever could be wrong) or should I look about getting something myself? I notice that the stalk for the lights is a good deal more 'slack' than the wiper stalk, maybe it just needs tightening up or there's a loose connection?
So you didnt bother with the advice I gave you on page 1 of the thread back in JUNE
MrBSI wrote:
The com2000 is gonna be defective, 02 plate 206, its gonna be on the original com unit
#55: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: 00budham00, Location: IpsPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:46 pm ---- Random
#56: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: pug206lx, Location: Taking a gearbox off somewherePosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:55 pm ---- When the lights come on, fiddle with the light switch a bit, but dont switch them on. See if they go off. Mine do the same thing as yours and they go off when i do that
Also do your indicators randomly stop and then start again if you nudge the stalk?
My COM2000 is on its way out.
#57: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:30 pm ---- I have a comms unit for sale
#58: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:54 am ---- The lights will go off strangely if I press the "Auto" button at the end of the stalk even though this com unit is not the one supposed to be on the car (it doesn't have the auto headlights feature or the front fogs even though the stalk has controls for them). If I also wiggle the stalk a bit the lights will also go out, but that's the problem, moving the stalk to indicate at night when the headlights need to be on can cause the headlights to go out, which is incredibly dangerous, especially where I am as there's lots of country roads and no street lights to guide me if it happened even just down the road from my house.
I have seen a few com units on eBay and such but I don't know which one I need. How many different types are there?
#59: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:51 pm ---- Any 206 unit will do as long as it has all the functions yours has. If it has extras like your current one its not a problem.
#60: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:19 am ---- It must affect it in some way though, pressing that auto button makes the lights go off, even though the button isn't connected to anything and shouldn't be doing anything. I'd rather just have the one that is supposed to fit my model of car. Extra buttons I can't use just annoy me, 'because I'll wanna press 'em!
#61: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:33 pm ---- everything is connected. Some functions may not be activated on the BSI but the wiring is all the same. Apart from maybe a few sensors missing.
#62: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:04 am ---- Could the software be updated then to allow this car to have the Auto headlights ability? Maybe updating the software to allow it, and then de-activating it using the method with the button posted earlier might actually stop this from happening?
#63: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: pug206lx, Location: Taking a gearbox off somewherePosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:11 am ----
PaddyC wrote:
Could the software be updated then to allow this car to have the Auto headlights ability? Maybe updating the software to allow it, and then de-activating it using the method with the button posted earlier might actually stop this from happening?
You need the sensor fitted and the BSI settings changed accordingly. - still sounds like a dodgy com2000
#64: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:04 am ----
pug206lx wrote:
still sounds like a dodgy com2000
Told him that back on page 1 of the thread back in June, OP still hasnt bothered to replace it
#65: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: skard, Location: UK - NorthPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:11 am ---- to retrofit auto lights (and wipers?) - is it just a case of fitting the sensor? is there a loom in the headlinging for it to interface with?
OP - my most recent com2000 i got brand new on ebay for £35 delivered and fitted myself. as mentioned, it will most likely fix your issue.
#66: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:58 am ---- I'm looking into getting a new comm unit, the advice given to me was not ignored despite what some may think so the sarcy comments can be kept to a minimum. I'm just looking to check if there were any other possible fixes or workarounds as money is tight and I don't have enough to splash out on a comm unit and someone to install it (I would have no idea) and last time I checked I was told a new comm unit would cost around £200 odd plus fitting. If they can be got on eBay for cheap enough I will maybe get one there and see if I know someone local that might do it for cheap enough.
#67: Re: Headlights Come On By Themselves Author: PaddyC, Location: IrelandPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:27 am ---- Was at Peugeot earlier and they told me that it would cost £288 inc. fitting to get a new com unit. Sod that. I have checked on eBay for replacement models but they all are for higher spec versions of the 206 than what I have and I know they will work but don't want to risk it as the one that's giving me problems is one that is from a higher spec car!
Rob2859, you mentioned that you have a unit for sale. Is it one that would fit a Style and comes only with the Style functions, and not one designed for higher spec models? How much are you selling it for? Thanks.
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