#1: rolling road report Author: shuggy79, Location: clackmannan central scotlandPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:08 am ---- i had my gti booked in at peugeot ecosse this morning for a rolling road session and a service check so i was a wee bit nervous about what the outcome would be
the car is basicaly bog standard with the exception of a cat back supersprint exhaust and i was very very pleased with the outcome
norm power reading was 146.5bhp
engine output was 140.5bhp
wheel output was 100.5bhp
drag output was 40bhp
torque reading was 138lbf-ft at 4250bhp
8.5bhp extra from the exhaust on a 12y/o car is pretty decent in my eyes
so in a nutshell the car is running sweet as a nut the only thing they found wrong with the car was it is pulling to the left and it needs front passenger side strut bearings
next job on the list will be getting the strut bearings fixed and then getting the wheel alignment sorted and probably a simota induction kit
#2: Re: rolling road report Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:19 am ---- Good result!
#3: Re: rolling road report Author: Abzynthe, Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:25 am ---- not bad
#4: Re: rolling road report Author: craigy00craig, Location: surreyPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:32 am ---- must be well chuffed with that
#5: Re: rolling road report Author: shuggy79, Location: clackmannan central scotlandPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:34 am ---- yeah im over the moon craig i know now i have a solid base to work upon now the only limit now is funds lol
#6: Re: rolling road report Author: craigy00craig, Location: surreyPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:42 am ---- think mines pulling around 60-65, like a train
#7: Re: rolling road report Author: NorthantsBen, Location: Raunds, NorthamptonshirePosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:46 am ---- nice
#8: Re: rolling road report Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:07 am ---- 100bhp at wheel and 147 at fly?
cannot believe that.
#9: Re: rolling road report Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:11 am ---- Hmmm.. Eccosse rollers. I await Edward seeing this...
#10: Re: rolling road report Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:13 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Hmmm.. Eccosse rollers. I await Edward seeing this...
maybe i can hit 160+ on their roller
#11: Re: rolling road report Author: shuggy79, Location: clackmannan central scotlandPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:42 am ---- im taking it that the ecosse rollers are a tad unreliable then lol
#12: Re: rolling road report Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:46 am ---- you should go to some independant company with a dyno dynamics rr and see what you get. Im guessing big companies like RedDot, Ecosse etc have a bigger audience so people can be influenced so easily and there's much to be gained by "giving" great results whereas with small companies probably have no reason to.
Ecosse carry out performance work whereas small places might not hence no reason to fix results for example.
Im not saying that anyone does fix results, but just my POV.
#13: Re: rolling road report Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:51 am ---- not really tbh.
power at wheel is rock solid on most roller; however power at flywheel are calculated base on power at wheel, so it all depends on what formula they use
unless you lift the egnine out and do a proper engine dyno, then it will tell you a more reliable power at fly value; most racing engine builder/ tunner have proper facility to do that.
#14: Re: rolling road report Author: sam-c, Location: Uni: Kent Home: ScunthorpePosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:52 am ---- I would say come to the rolling road day at RS Tuning at the end of the month but its in Leeds so would be one hell of a treck for you
#15: Re: rolling road report Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:30 am ---- The Ecosse rollers haven't been questioned before normally it's Red Dot Racing?
#16: Re: rolling road report Author: Harty, Location: West LothianPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:00 am ---- mine was on ecosse rollers 2 weeks ago and was about what i had estimated for my hdi:
123bhp and i thought 125
97.5bhp at the wheels
and 25bhp drag output
201lb-ft torque and i thought 200 so pretty much bang on.
i like ecosse, just some stuff is expensive lol but some stuff is good... like their rollers.
#17: Re: rolling road report Author: Kersh, Location: Bridgnorth, Nr WolverhamptonPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:42 am ----
Harty wrote:
mine was on ecosse rollers 2 weeks ago and was about what i had estimated for my hdi:
123bhp and i thought 125
97.5bhp at the wheels
and 25bhp drag output
201lb-ft torque and i thought 200 so pretty much bang on.
i like ecosse, just some stuff is expensive lol but some stuff is good... like their rollers.
just because you thought it might get those figures doesnt necessarily mean that they are correct..
#18: Re: rolling road report Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:19 am ----
shuggy79 wrote:
i had my gti booked in at peugeot ecosse
Unlucky, wonder what they will f*** up while at the same time emptying your wallet
Wouldnt trust this bunch of idiots to change a bulb.
#19: Re: rolling road report Author: shuggy79, Location: clackmannan central scotlandPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:56 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
shuggy79 wrote:
i had my gti booked in at peugeot ecosse
Unlucky, wonder what they will f*** up while at the same time emptying your wallet
Wouldnt trust this bunch of idiots to change a bulb.
just being nosey what has happened to influence such harsh critisism just so i know for future reference
#20: Re: rolling road report Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:15 am ---- You need to read Edwards thread
They couldnt fit a greasy stick up a dogs a**e when it comes to performance mods, I keep saying it.... stick to body kits Last edited by macj on Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:17 am; edited 1 time in total
#21: Re: rolling road report Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:16 am ----
#22: Re: rolling road report Author: Harty, Location: West LothianPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:35 pm ---- ok edwards problems with them i can understand for putting people off but that was their mechanical ability under question, not the rollers which was originally what the argument was over
#23: Re: rolling road report Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:39 pm ----
Harty wrote:
ok edwards problems with them i can understand for putting people off but that was their mechanical ability under question, not the rollers which was originally what the argument was over
your RR figure looks more reasonable then the opener.
and is kind of expected
#24: Re: rolling road report Author: Harty, Location: West LothianPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:48 pm ---- well dervs are excellent lol
guess you cant put a single part of a business under flak without the rest going with it i suppose
#25: Re: rolling road report Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:51 pm ---- I would suspect the rollers are fine... its the operator thats faulty, I could gain 10HP on the rundown of a rolling road by holding the brakes slightly after the power run and fooling the computor that there is more transmission drag. I seem to remember several reports of cars making more HP on Ecosse rollers
#26: Re: rolling road report Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:01 pm ----
macj wrote:
I would suspect the rollers are fine... its the operator thats faulty, I could gain 10HP on the rundown of a rolling road by holding the brakes slightly after the power run and fooling the computor that there is more transmission drag. I seem to remember several reports of cars making more HP on Ecosse rollers
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