#1: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: cruncher75, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:56 am ---- Hi what are the signs that the head gasket is going i have a oil leak which the mechanic said the gasket will need replacing. I seen a few threads on here were owners cars have gasket problems with white stuff on the cap which my dont have is there different types of gasket problems my water bottle is brown inside but has been like that since i had the car 4 years ago any help thx
#2: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: deanparkr, Location: United KingdomPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:06 am ---- My coolant bottle is a bit murky too with a small oil leak and one independnet garage last year was quick to point out it needs a new head gasket.
A year later, a check at the dealer showed all systems go, no problems.
In my experience I wouldn't consider an oil leak + murky coolant bottle enough reason to replace the head gasket. Your best waiting until the oil cap turns mayo-ie, or you suffer cooling issues.
Someone else whos more of an expert might be able to clarify more! Last edited by deanparkr on Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:08 am; edited 1 time in total
#3: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: iainlovatt, Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:07 am ---- its a very good sign that there is no white stuff on the cap,
#4: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: cruncher75, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:13 am ----
iainlovatt wrote:
its a very good sign that there is no white stuff on the cap,
Do you mean its a good sign that the gasket could be ok as there's no white mayo type stuff
#5: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: PugJH, Location: NorthantsPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:14 am ---- when you say water bottle do you mean coolant?
maybe its been filled with tap water, which i was always told would start scaling.
#6: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: cruncher75, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:15 am ----
deanparkr wrote:
My coolant bottle is a bit murky too with a small oil leak and one independnet garage last year was quick to point out it needs a new head gasket.
A year later, a check at the dealer showed all systems go, no problems.
In my experience I wouldn't consider an oil leak + murky coolant bottle enough reason to replace the head gasket. Your best waiting until the oil cap turns mayo-ie, or you suffer cooling issues.
Someone else whos more of an expert might be able to clarify more!
What was your oil leak problem had a oil change not so long ago and the oil seems to be dripping off some wires/tubes
#7: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: cruncher75, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:16 am ---- Yes the big fat water bottle with black cap not the screen wash bottle
#8: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,WarwickshirePosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:37 am ---- Have you looked inside the coolent bottle? Mine is a green colour and that's water mixed with coolant
#9: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: cruncher75, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:41 am ----
DeadEyePaul wrote:
Have you looked inside the coolent bottle? Mine is a green colour and that's water mixed with coolant
Yea its brown been like that for 4 years since ive had the car
#10: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: deanparkr, Location: United KingdomPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:46 am ----
cruncher75 wrote:
DeadEyePaul wrote:
Have you looked inside the coolent bottle? Mine is a green colour and that's water mixed with coolant
Yea its brown been like that for 4 years since ive had the car
Mines been brown for 2 years. Hasnt seemed to raise any issues.
As for my oil leak, i'm not sure. The advisory on the invoice is just noted as
"Advise - Small oil leak"
So not particularly descriptive. I dont seem to be losing an oil, so it must be very small!
From what you describe your 206 looks alot like mine, I wouldnt worry too much until you see the more obvious tell tell signs. You could do the head gasket now, but it might go strong for years more!
#11: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: deanparkr, Location: United KingdomPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:46 am ---- Also, I notice you live near me! Which garage are you taking the car to?
#12: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:51 am ---- I'd change the coolant if I were you if it's been in for 5 years and is brown
Just make sure you get the right stuff, the red and blue coolants shouldn't be mixed.
Maybe that's what happened and it's silted?
#13: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: cruncher75, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:52 am ----
deanparkr wrote:
Also, I notice you live near me! Which garage are you taking the car to?
I take it to WJHeard as hes a mate but not to sure he did the MOT this time round as i told him about the leak and when he gave the car back he said he got some on to clean the oil leak up which makes me think some else in the garage looked at it and hes just told me what the other person told him
#14: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: cruncher75, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:53 am ----
Seb wrote:
I'd change the coolant if I were you if it's been in for 5 years and is brown
Just make sure you get the right stuff, the red and blue coolants shouldn't be mixed.
Maybe that's what happened and it's silted?
Do u mean get a new bottle
#15: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: cruncher75, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:54 am ---- Off to work now thx guys ill see if i can get some pics tomorrow of the leak
#16: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: deanparkr, Location: United KingdomPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:55 am ---- What Seb says seems to make sense.
If you are concerned i'd definetly take it somewhere else just to get someone elses opinion, you can always go back to them if you find there is cause for concern.
#17: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: Abzynthe, Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:56 am ----
cruncher75 wrote:
Seb wrote:
I'd change the coolant if I were you if it's been in for 5 years and is brown
Just make sure you get the right stuff, the red and blue coolants shouldn't be mixed.
Maybe that's what happened and it's silted?
Do u mean get a new bottle
Just get a garage to flush the coolant system and add some fresh. It wont cost alot. was £12 for me I think.
#18: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:57 am ---- Do it yourself you lazy sod
#19: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:01 am ----
PugJH wrote:
when you say water bottle do you mean coolant?
maybe its been filled with tap water, which i was always told would start scaling.
Far better of using distilled or deionised water in the cooling system mixed 50 / 50 with a decent coolant / antifreeze.
#20: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:05 am ----
cruncher75 wrote:
Seb wrote:
I'd change the coolant if I were you if it's been in for 5 years and is brown
Just make sure you get the right stuff, the red and blue coolants shouldn't be mixed.
Maybe that's what happened and it's silted?
Do u mean get a new bottle
Stick it in the dishwasher if you have one.
OR
NON bio dishwasher or washing up powder / liquid / tablets & take the car for a drive to get it up to a decent temp, helps clean the cooling system out wonderful.
Whatever you use it MUST, I repeat MUST be NON bio!
#21: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: PugJH, Location: NorthantsPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:08 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
PugJH wrote:
when you say water bottle do you mean coolant?
maybe its been filled with tap water, which i was always told would start scaling.
Far better of using distilled or deionised water in the cooling system mixed 50 / 50 with a decent coolant / antifreeze.
I got good old deionised mixed with a decent antifreeze, what i always used in the Red 206 when i swapped the rad and flushed it.
#22: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:10 am ---- Ive got deionised water on tap at work
We get around 4 - 6 months out of a cartridge depending on how many & how often the batteries get topped up.
#23: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: fikemoster, Location: GravesendPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:18 am ---- Funnily enough my cars just come from the garage the other day to have the head gasket changed, the massive sign was the leaking although it drove a good 1000 miles before it was changed
#24: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: NorthantsBen, Location: Raunds, NorthamptonshirePosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:37 am ---- mine vaux has a leaking oil cooler and makes the water all dirty and oil in it, dunno if the pugs have them ??
#25: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:40 am ----
NorthantsBen wrote:
mine vaux has a leaking oil cooler and makes the water all dirty and oil in it, dunno if the pugs have them ??
Not on a TU3
#26: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: NorthantsBen, Location: Raunds, NorthamptonshirePosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:44 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
NorthantsBen wrote:
mine vaux has a leaking oil cooler and makes the water all dirty and oil in it, dunno if the pugs have them ??
Not on a TU3
i knew that one lol was talking about the rest of range in general if they do or not?? should have made my self more clear.
#27: Re: Head Gasket what are the signs Author: cruncher75, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:25 am ----
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