#1: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:34 am ---- Hi got new 207 seems to have used bit of coolant already some reason after like 3,000 miles few months old , its always been werid dirty water colour from brand new ,heard because it has something in it to protect it .
Dont need much but def not on max though.
Can you not mix differnet colours i got blue antifreeze left over my old 206 would it hurt to pour tiny bit in it ?
Thanks
#2: Re: Antifreeze Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:37 am ---- Car not even a year old, still under manufacturers warranty & your already thinking about putting the wrong fluids in it
Just buy the correct fluid from a Peugeot / Citroen main dealer, its cheap enough anyway.
#3: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:39 am ---- Is that normal to lose bit of coolant that quick , oil and brake fluid fine .
No wouldnt put wrong stuff in thats why im on here asking this rather than pouring it in anyway , saying would it matter if used same antifreeze i used on 206 suppose cant though wrong colour and sort maybe.
Is Citreon antifreeze exactly same as peugeot stuff , know that most or all parts are really as everything has a citeron badge next to the peugeot one on all parts and bits on car .?
#4: Re: Antifreeze Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:45 am ---- my old 206's coolant are crystal clear when i drained them out last month. coolant level stay constant for over 3 yrs.
coolant is just coolant, they are all colourless. all those green/blue or pink coolant are just color additive which makes it easier for you to check your level and to change the coolant.
#5: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:47 am ---- il top it up with correct stuff then see if it goes down again il go to peugeot , ive heard this before someone on 207oc , had same thing then been fine since so hopefully .
So is it safe ti put blue bit in ? Thats what i wanna know so wont hurt putting blue bit in , clear coolant well dirty weris water colour never seen one like it , to be honest id want it all blue lol .
But new car and came with werid clear coolant colour ,
be easier if was blue or red in first place then id know def which colour and sort to use lol.
il top it up with correct stuff then see if it goes down again il go to peugeot , ive heard this before someone on 207oc , had same thing then been fine since so hopefully .
So is it safe ti put blue bit in ? Thats what i wanna know so wont hurt putting blue bit in , clear coolant well dirty weris water colour never seen one like it , to be honest id want it all blue lol .
But new car and came with werid coolant colour .
you should never mix different brand coolant even they are the same color; as you never know what rust inhibitor they have in the coolant.
top it up with de-ionized water
#7: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:12 am ---- ok il top it up with bit of water only needs tiny bit anyways , would tap water be ok or have to be de ionoised water ?
#8: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:17 am ---- thinking about it i got some battery water aint that the same stuff ? or not
#9: Re: Antifreeze Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:36 am ---- same stuff
#10: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:48 am ---- ok so u mean usin tiny bit of battery water be alrit yeah , next time def get correct antifreeze but water be ok this time .
#11: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:50 am ---- i saw this thing on youtube how to check and top up peugeot coolant where thay just topped it up with water , said cold water though and it was a 207 .
Il just use tiny bit of battery water then .
#12: Re: Antifreeze Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:11 am ---- water is water.
i suggest de-ionized water is because i don't know whether the tap water in berkshire is hard or soft.
if the water is hard water there is a chance to block the coolant pipe overtime. of course it also depends on how much hard water you put in
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normal pre-mixed coolant you bought is 50:50 mixture; and in uk, even in winter, 20:80 mixture is more than enough to prevent the coolant to freeze.
so that means you got at least 30% "allowance"; normal engine coolant should be over 5L; so that means even you diluted the coolant with over a litre of normal water is will still be fine.
#13: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:16 am ---- the tap water here is crap lol hard not good
so il use battery water ok thanks , looks abit like my coolant anyway just clear mabey it is lol.
so be safe to do this a few times not that i plan to if happens again might tell peugeot as its new car .
thanks for your help .
#14: Re: Antifreeze Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:24 am ----
Seabook wrote:
all those green/blue or pink coolant are just color additive which makes it easier for you to check your level and to change the coolant.
That's wrong. 99% of the time, the blue (MEG)/green is inorganic and the pink/orange (+OAT) is organic. If you mix them it will silt the coolant system.
Most of the old green coolants should not be mixed with ANY type of coolant, as it will probably silt anyway, but definately don't mix a non OAT with an OAT coolant, ie, blue and pink.
#15: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:28 am ---- ok wont mix it with antifreezes ,
but battery water wont hurt tiny bit this once will it
#16: Re: Antifreeze Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:34 am ---- Nope, water is fine.
all those green/blue or pink coolant are just color additive which makes it easier for you to check your level and to change the coolant.
That's wrong. 99% of the time, the blue (MEG)/green is inorganic and the pink/orange (+OAT) is organic. If you mix them it will silt the coolant system.
Most of the old green coolants should not be mixed with ANY type of coolant, as it will probably silt anyway, but definately don't mix a non OAT with an OAT coolant, ie, blue and pink.
i did say don't mix antifreeze
and the color system is not a reliable method to guess what anti rust reagent is in there
#18: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:37 pm ---- ok cool ,water it is lol battery ,de -ionised water
just not the hard shi*t round my area i dont even drink out of tap here .
#19: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:29 am ---- my antifreeze must be OAT surely thats long life and on new cars ,and mine says dont need to change antifreeze in manual.
Also the blue stuff is changed every 2 years and for older cars.
Isnt yellow metals in older cars aswell which you cant mix the OAT coolant with.
I have the pink OAT adavanced antifreeze long life wouldnt that be ok to use ??
I topped it up with water a bit but dont wanna too much worried it will freeze in winter , so wanna put little bit antifreeze in .
Also is Citreon antifreeze same as peugeots ? would have thought so as it has citeron badge next to the peugeot one on all parts and expansion bottle because i have some of that in my house too as someone in family has a citeron.
#20: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:46 am ---- just phoned peugeot they said can use any blue antifreeze.
just phoned peugeot they said can use any blue antifreeze.
No way?!
#22: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:21 am ---- yeah thats what they said , my mechanic ex peugeot said blue stuff too , and all 207 pugs have blue stuff makes sense.
yeah thats what they said , my mechanic ex peugeot said blue stuff too , and all 207 pugs have blue stuff makes sense.
Peugeot uses BASF Glysantin® G33 which is Blue but is actually OAT (usually red).
Hence the 5-year service life. I wouldn't be inclined to top-up with anything else tbh.
and the color system is not a reliable method to guess what anti rust reagent is in there
+1
#24: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:09 pm ---- i got genuine peugeot stuff so ok yeah its blue , pug def told me anyblue though
#25: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:21 pm ---- i have blue genuine antifreeze but its concerntrated is it 50 50 mix with water or ..???
Does using air con alot use some antifreeze ? would make sense then i use air con all time .
No you air con is a closed system and uses gas to cool (works a bit like a fridge)
#29: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:25 am ---- o i got told using air con all the time will use bit antifreeze
so it not using any antifreeze atall ?
Does it make a diffrence as mine has climate control or not ?
i have to use air con almost all the time because when you press the windscreen or rear screen de mister button air con automaticly comes on with it . Last edited by eddrj on Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:27 am; edited 1 time in total
#30: Re: Antifreeze Author: Seabook, Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:27 am ---- they don't
and in fact antifreeze will be not "used up" in any occasion
#31: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:29 am ---- ok my car went to peugeot to have a new temp sensor which went then they topped up antifreeze and it still goes down .
Any ideas why antifreeze would go down in a new car , cant be any leaks as its brand new and has always gone down noticed it in first few weeks.
#32: Re: Antifreeze Author: mjrimmer, Location: davenportPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:34 am ---- Normally if your using coolant then you have to be losing coolant from somewhere.
You say the car is new ...so maybe there was a small airlock somewhere that has now cleared itself.
Just keep your eye on it. If it continues using it then you must have a slight leak from somewhere.
#33: Re: Antifreeze Author: Seabook, Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:37 am ---- how much level drop are we talking about?
#34: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:56 am ---- well i need to top it up every week , say goes down almost half way in a week or so.
#35: Re: Antifreeze Author: Seabook, Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:57 am ---- it has to be leaking i pressume; is the coolant cap tight?
#36: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:58 am ---- yeah it is really really tight, should it be really tight or doesnt that matter ?
#37: Re: Antifreeze Author: mjrimmer, Location: davenportPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:04 am ---- Cap should be tight.
I wouldn't worry about it, give the car to the dealer and tell them to worry about it whilst you thrash one of their loan cars around whilst they sort it out under warranty.
#38: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:05 am ---- its just been in peugeot for last 4 days for the new temp sensor ,and they topped up oil and antifreeze.
If it carries on il have to go back down wanna less have to though .
Yeah though cap should be tight just wasnt sure if matterd how tight its on as tight as it will go .
#39: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:16 am ---- i topped it up to max when cold , but now its really hot now gone higher than max ,
assume it will go back down to max when cooled down
is that normal.
#40: Re: Antifreeze Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:17 am ----
eddrj wrote:
i topped it up to max when cold , but now its really hot now gone higher than max ,
assume it will go back down to max when cooled down
is that normal.
Yes, correct & perfectly normal.
#41: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:18 am ---- ok good just checked it after driven it and freaked out because higher than max when usually its lower than i want it lol
ok good thanks so wont hurt it to be higher than max when hot.
#42: Re: Antifreeze Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:24 am ----
eddrj wrote:
so wont hurt it to be higher than max when hot.
Nope, cooling system will find its own level anyway
#43: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:24 am ---- ok thanks
#44: Re: Antifreeze Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:22 am ---- Head gasket ok?
#45: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:00 am ---- Asume so only done 4500 miles 3 months old ,
well oil hasnt got any coolant isn't it ,
coolant actually hasnt gone down since topped up this time yet .
No sign of leaks.
seems ok now.
#46: Re: Antifreeze Author: kit325, Location: LondonPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:24 pm ---- Won't cost u much to flush the system and fill in new coolant (5liter pack) which is ideal for old car. Consider your car is still new, just top it up with a bit water for now will do.
#47: Re: Antifreeze Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:03 pm ---- Get it to Peugeot. Something is up if a 3 month old car needs any topping up of fluids.
#48: Re: Antifreeze Author: eddrj, Location: BerkshirePosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:03 am ---- it does seem ok now topped it up bout week or so ago
hasnt gone down atall still to the max werid.
Il keep an eye on it though.
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