#1: HDI starting problems Author: davek, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:42 am ---- Over the last week or so, when starting from cold, the engine wouldn't fire a immediately and I get an engine immobilser message, doors lock and the headlights come on.
Eventually the car does start on the 2 or 3rd try. Once warmed up the engine stops and starts fine. It seems excessive for just a cold engine - perhaps battery is on the way out?
I have had an airbag fault for ages which pops up on starting, but goes away if I stop and restart.
Anyone had something similar?
#2: Re: HDI starting problems Author: judgey93, Location: Burnley EnglandPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:38 am ---- I have a 1.4 hdi, mine does the same and I was getting sick of it took it to local garage as it eventually started cutting out and loosing all power to it and all electrics went off. They changed battery tested it and it said it was recharging it self all was well, set off same thing went back and I have a dodgy alternator. Hope this helps mate
#3: Re: HDI starting problems Author: davek, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:40 am ---- Thanks, I suspect the alternator as well. I'll do some voltage tests and see what I can discover.
#4: Re: HDI starting problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:49 am ----
davek wrote:
Over the last week or so, when starting from cold, the engine wouldn't fire a immediately and I get an engine immobilser message, doors lock and the headlights come on.
I have had an airbag fault for ages which pops up on starting, but goes away if I stop and restart.
Anyone had something similar?
You have a low battery voltage, drives the CAN system mad
Check the alternator charge rate & if thats ok replace the battery with a Varta OR Bosch.
#5: Re: HDI starting problems Author: r1ch, Location: LeicesterPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:56 am ---- this happened to me last night! i have a 2005 2.0 HDi. I got in and it took a good 3-4 seconds for it the start up and then the air bag light popped up. So i drove to work thinking what it could be. and when i got back in the car this morning it still took 3-4 seconds to fire up but the airbag light had gone. i guess we have the same problem?? If you sort it out, please please let me know what you did!
#6: Re: HDI starting problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:59 am ----
rich_xs wrote:
this happened to me last night! i have a 2005 2.0 HDi. I got in and it took a good 3-4 seconds for it the start up and then the air bag light popped up. So i drove to work thinking what it could be. and when i got back in the car this morning it still took 3-4 seconds to fire up but the airbag light had gone. i guess we have the same problem?? If you sort it out, please please let me know what you did!
Its the battery on its way out
#7: Re: HDI starting problems Author: r1ch, Location: LeicesterPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:06 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
rich_xs wrote:
this happened to me last night! i have a 2005 2.0 HDi. I got in and it took a good 3-4 seconds for it the start up and then the air bag light popped up. So i drove to work thinking what it could be. and when i got back in the car this morning it still took 3-4 seconds to fire up but the airbag light had gone. i guess we have the same problem?? If you sort it out, please please let me know what you did!
Its the battery on its way out
poo really? lol
#8: Re: HDI starting problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:22 am ----
rich_xs wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
rich_xs wrote:
this happened to me last night! i have a 2005 2.0 HDi. I got in and it took a good 3-4 seconds for it the start up and then the air bag light popped up. So i drove to work thinking what it could be. and when i got back in the car this morning it still took 3-4 seconds to fire up but the airbag light had gone. i guess we have the same problem?? If you sort it out, please please let me know what you did!
Its the battery on its way out
poo really? lol
Your car looks 6 years old, its most likely still on the factory fitted Varta original, how long do you think a battery lasts
#9: Re: HDI starting problems Author: r1ch, Location: LeicesterPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:27 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
rich_xs wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
rich_xs wrote:
this happened to me last night! i have a 2005 2.0 HDi. I got in and it took a good 3-4 seconds for it the start up and then the air bag light popped up. So i drove to work thinking what it could be. and when i got back in the car this morning it still took 3-4 seconds to fire up but the airbag light had gone. i guess we have the same problem?? If you sort it out, please please let me know what you did!
Its the battery on its way out
poo really? lol
Your car looks 6 years old, its most likely still on the factory fitted Varta original, how long do you think a battery lasts
lol. i know they dont last forever! just a bummer. lol if i go look at it later and its a Varta, will that more than likely mean its the factory fitted one still?
#10: Re: HDI starting problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:31 am ---- There should be a date when the battery was made marked on the battery, either a sticker OR stamped in to the casing.
Normally a week number & a year.
Varta make the best car batteries OR get a Bosch if its cheaper, Varta make the batteries for Bosch
Varta make a lot of OE batteries that are fitted by a lot of car manufacturers on the production line.
#11: Re: HDI starting problems Author: copey, Location: rochdalePosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:36 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
davek wrote:
Over the last week or so, when starting from cold, the engine wouldn't fire a immediately and I get an engine immobilser message, doors lock and the headlights come on.
I have had an airbag fault for ages which pops up on starting, but goes away if I stop and restart.
Anyone had something similar?
You have a low battery voltage, drives the CAN system mad
Check the alternator charge rate & if thats ok replace the battery with a Varta OR Bosch.
yep had exactly the same on mine last winter, rev guages allflicker, immobiliser fault, abs fault, airbag fault, doors locking them selves....battery was the problem
#12: Re: HDI starting problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:39 am ---- Always pays to get a decent battery when you need to replace it, top end Varta & Bosch batteries come with a 5 year warranty
#13: Re: HDI starting problems Author: r1ch, Location: LeicesterPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:45 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Always pays to get a decent battery when you need to replace it, top end Varta & Bosch batteries come with a 5 year warranty
cant really fork out for a Varta right now so i guess a Bosch is next best! Should i go to my local garage and ask for a Bosch to be put in? Or will they say "do one" lol last time they put in a "Banner Bull" battery.
#14: Re: HDI starting problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:49 am ----
rich_xs wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Always pays to get a decent battery when you need to replace it, top end Varta & Bosch batteries come with a 5 year warranty
cant really fork out for a Varta right now so i guess a Bosch is next best! Should i go to my local garage and ask for a Bosch to be put in? Or will they say "do one" lol last time they put in a "Banner Bull" battery.
You will most likely pay around the same for a Bosch as a Varta, there exactly the same battery made in the same Varta factory but with a different sticker.
Go down / ring your local motor factor ( NOT Halfords ) & price up a new battery.
#15: Re: HDI starting problems Author: r1ch, Location: LeicesterPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:54 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
rich_xs wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Always pays to get a decent battery when you need to replace it, top end Varta & Bosch batteries come with a 5 year warranty
cant really fork out for a Varta right now so i guess a Bosch is next best! Should i go to my local garage and ask for a Bosch to be put in? Or will they say "do one" lol last time they put in a "Banner Bull" battery.
You will most likely pay around the same for a Bosch as a Varta, there exactly the same battery made in the same Varta factory but with a different sticker.
Go down / ring your local motor factor ( NOT Halfords ) & price up a new battery.
ok, somewhere like Parkers or Euro car parts? They easy to install or best for my local garage to do it? or anyone willing to come do it for me? (and my pads and discs)
#16: Re: HDI starting problems Author: copey, Location: rochdalePosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:56 am ---- put a battery in yourself, its a piece of pee
#17: Re: HDI starting problems Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:58 am ---- If you cant change a simple car battery you cant be classed as a MAN
#18: Re: HDI starting problems Author: r1ch, Location: LeicesterPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:00 am ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
If you cant change a simple car battery you cant be classed as a MAN
lol. i've never tried! dont worry i will change it!
#19: Re: HDI starting problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:25 am ----
rich_xs wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
If you cant change a simple car battery you cant be classed as a MAN
lol. i've never tried! dont worry i will change it!
BSI needs to be shut down correctly before you disconnect the battery & then booted back up correctly afterward battery replacement.
#20: Re: HDI starting problems Author: r1ch, Location: LeicesterPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:27 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
rich_xs wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
If you cant change a simple car battery you cant be classed as a MAN
lol. i've never tried! dont worry i will change it!
BSI needs to be shut down correctly before you disconnect the battery & then booted back up correctly afterward battery replacement.
whoa....ok now im stuck! lol.
#21: Re: HDI starting problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:29 am ----
rich_xs wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
rich_xs wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
If you cant change a simple car battery you cant be classed as a MAN
lol. i've never tried! dont worry i will change it!
BSI needs to be shut down correctly before you disconnect the battery & then booted back up correctly afterward battery replacement.
cool. whats DIAG equipment? seems like i trust the garage more than me to do it!
You wont have any diag equipment connected so dont worry about it.
It means a scanner etc connected to the diag port.
#24: Re: HDI starting problems Author: copey, Location: rochdalePosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:13 am ---- its easy, just follow those steps and you really cant go wrong
#25: Re: HDI starting problems Author: davek, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:16 am ---- Thanks for the replies, I'm getting a Silver Varta at lunchtime and will fit it later - hope a new battery helps you Rich XS!
Doing voltage tests last night, I noticed the battery is original, almost 9 years isn't too bad for a OE battery.
#26: Re: HDI starting problems Author: r1ch, Location: LeicesterPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:03 am ----
davek wrote:
Thanks for the replies, I'm getting a Silver Varta at lunchtime and will fit it later - hope a new battery helps you Rich XS!
Doing voltage tests last night, I noticed the battery is original, almost 9 years isn't too bad for a OE battery.
picking my bosch S5 one up tomorrow. will you let me know if you air bag light goes off?
#27: Re: HDI starting problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:05 am ----
davek wrote:
I noticed the battery is original, almost 9 years isn't too bad for a OE battery.
Good old Varta
#28: Re: HDI starting problems Author: petejax, Location: South YorkshirePosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:43 pm ---- Hya
I'm having the same starting problems now it's turned colder. Normally the car starts first time but now it takes three goes. I then get the air bag light, auto locking etc.
Funny enough the battery voltage is showing 12.5 when the car has been run and so warm.
Did anyone else check their battery's voltage
Cheers
Pete
#29: Re: HDI starting problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:28 pm ----
petejax wrote:
Hya
I'm having the same starting problems now it's turned colder. Normally the car starts first time but now it takes three goes. I then get the air bag light, auto locking etc.
Funny enough the battery voltage is showing 12.5 when the car has been run and so warm.
Did anyone else check their battery's voltage
Cheers
Pete
Try checking the battery voltage BEFORE you attempt to start the car, you should find it low.
12.5 volts after its been run is low anyway.
#30: Re: HDI starting problems Author: petejax, Location: South YorkshirePosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:30 pm ---- Thanks, will try that.
Any idea what the voltage should be?
Cheers
Pete
#31: Re: HDI starting problems Author: davek, Location: SouthamptonPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:35 am ---- Update on my problem: New battery solved the problem.
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