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#1: Overheating in traffic Author: ahfeckit, Location: Ireland PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:16 am
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I have a 02 1.1 206 which is running fine in general. But if I get stuck in traffic for anything over 30 minutes the temperature gauge rises almost to the red and the only way to cool it down is to turn the engine off when Im stopped.

#2: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:18 am
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Fan isn't working. You need to check the relays and resistors. Read the live data to check the ECU is trying to turn the fan on at 92oC (i think second stage cooling is)

If you need a new relay and resistor, I have one that I have just removed from a 206, and it was working when tested.

#3: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: glenpring, Location: KENT PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:31 am
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lee do you own a dealership you know so much and have so many parts lol

#4: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:33 am
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Nah Laughing

Just have my finger in a few pies around the world Laughing

#5: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Twidly, Location: Home - Norfolk, Uni - Preston PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:39 am
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*a*******s you mean Lee Wink

#6: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:47 am
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Twidly wrote:
*a*******s you mean Lee Wink

Yeah I know and you love it Wink

Laughing

#7: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: namgaj, Location: Chasing Ash, Addaz and Lee........... hopefully catching Addaz and havin fun :P PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:02 pm
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More like Lees garden is a scrapyard Wink haha

#8: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:46 pm
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Also check the wiring to the relays. The relays can look fine but the wires to the relay terminals can be all corroded.

#9: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas! PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:11 pm
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save money, put the heater on flat out.

#10: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:12 pm
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hello, im having roughly the same problem. my car is fine most of the time but the odd occassion it will reach at least 100°c then the fan kicks in. it cools it back down to 90°c then eventually rises again. ive looked at the main fan at the front and when im driving and the temperature is at about 80°c its stationary? is it supposed to be moving? its doing my nut in im always watching it!!! Sad

thanks
Lee

#11: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Deckchair5, Location: Bath UK PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:07 am
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nemesislee
Sounds like your slow speed fan circuit isn't working and the fast speed fan circuit is the only one remaining which will cut in at the higher temp. Pretty common fault so need to check relay/ wiring/ slow speed resistor. It's all stuck out the front to air cool the resistor but that means it's open to all the weather so corrosion is a problem there

Your fan shouldn't be working at all temps, it works on slow speed as the first temp limit is reached, slower motor speed achieved through a resistor, and then on full speed at the higher limit

#12: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:03 am
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Thanks il have a look into that Smile its been ragging my head trying to find the problem. iv brought a standard airbox to replace the induction filter im determined to get it fixed Smile

thanks

Lee

#13: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:21 am
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where would i buy replacements from? ive looked on ebay and euro car parts but nothing Sad

#14: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:44 am
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nemesislee wrote:
where would i buy replacements from? ive looked on ebay and euro car parts but nothing Sad

www.peugeot.co.uk/deal...index.html

#15: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Lecktorious, Location: Scotland PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:25 am
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MrBSI wrote:
nemesislee wrote:
where would i buy replacements from? ive looked on ebay and euro car parts but nothing Sad

www.peugeot.co.uk/deal...index.html

What a ridiculous suggestion.

#16: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:28 am
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whats a ridiculous suggestion? ive had no problems finding other parts from either ebay or euro car parts. sometimes there very cheap and spanking new

#17: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Lecktorious, Location: Scotland PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:54 am
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nemesislee wrote:
whats a ridiculous suggestion? ive had no problems finding other parts from either ebay or euro car parts. sometimes there very cheap and spanking new

Go and check Peugeot Service Box for prices before buying OEM parts from eBay Wink

Just because it's on eBay, doesn't mean it's a bargain.

#18: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:21 am
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Ah Smile yeah just got in touch with my local peugeot dealer see if they can help me . just waiting on a response now

#19: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:01 am
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wow they want £65.00 off me before they've even started to fix the problem :s i can see why people try to avoid the dealers Smile

#20: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, Sweden PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:36 am
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nemesislee wrote:
wow they want £65.00 off me before they've even started to fix the problem :s i can see why people try to avoid the dealers Smile

Sure they want money for time spent diagnosing/fixing something, but if you look at just the parts the dealers are often cheaper than eBay.

#21: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam........... PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:33 am
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G. wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
nemesislee wrote:
where would i buy replacements from? ive looked on ebay and euro car parts but nothing Sad

www.peugeot.co.uk/deal...index.html

What a ridiculous suggestion.

Why? They are cheaper then eBay and Parts shops at times.

Unless you're being sarci in which case, Embarassed

#22: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:35 pm
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Can anyone tell me what this might be? I've posted up another topic on it but I'm wondering if something's been disconnected maybe ?

www.206info.co.uk/Foru...tml#477991

Thanks again for the help. Gonna be getting the car into the garage as soon as I can Smile

#23: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: m4tth3w, Location: sheffield PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:53 pm
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ahfeckit wrote:
But if I get stuck in traffic for anything over 30 minutes

Traffic jam over 30 minutes yikes!!!

Have you ever seen that 80s fillum with Michael Douglas, Falling Down Cool Cool

#24: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:43 am
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Got the call off the garage £62.00 for the thermostat change and coolant top up and to have a look at the low speed fan wiring. Hopefully the thermostat will rectify the problem I'm having and the fan won't need to be fixed Smile

#25: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: MackMac, Location: Lancashire PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 12:23 am
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I have this problem when I sit in traffic in my 206 XSi after at least an hour's drive. I have to watch the water temperature gauge like a hawk and resort to switching the engine off. After reading this, I'm not alone. So it maybe the wiring that needs looking on the fan relay/ wiring/slow resistor.

How much is it likely to cost on getting it looked at or fixed?

#26: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Fallguy56, Location: Warrington PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:57 am
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MackMac wrote:
I have this problem when I sit in traffic in my 206 XSi after at least an hour's drive. I have to watch the water temperature gauge like a hawk and resort to switching the engine off. After reading this, I'm not alone. So it maybe the wiring that needs looking on the fan relay/ wiring/slow resistor.

How much is it likely to cost on getting it looked at or fixed?

I have recently purchased a 206 and having simular issues. The coolent looks rusty and mucky so I am having that flushed today. From reading the thread not sure what to do next ? Is replacing the thermostat easy? Rolling Eyes

#27: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:02 am
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Fallguy56 wrote:
MackMac wrote:
I have this problem when I sit in traffic in my 206 XSi after at least an hour's drive. I have to watch the water temperature gauge like a hawk and resort to switching the engine off. After reading this, I'm not alone. So it maybe the wiring that needs looking on the fan relay/ wiring/slow resistor.

How much is it likely to cost on getting it looked at or fixed?

I have recently purchased a 206 and having simular issues. The coolent looks rusty and mucky so I am having that flushed today. From reading the thread not sure what to do next ? Is replacing the thermostat easy? Rolling Eyes

Replacing thermostat is very very easy.
Check your low-speed relay (get's used continualy) and replace the resistor anyway as they wear with time, raising their Ohms value and thus slowing the fan motor down.

#28: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: RichardEke, Location: Doncaster PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:58 am
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Does anyone have the circuit diagram to these circuits? I like following them to find prolems, i just thought i'd ask as someone probably has one and it might help others finding this thread Smile
Cheers, Richard.

#29: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Jordy6969 PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:50 am
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Have exact same problem - anyone point me to a guide that shows how to replace the thermostat and these relays etc. thank you

#30: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: kandlbarrett, Location: Swindon PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:59 pm
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Check that the fan kicks in at both slow and fast speeds first. If it does then do thermostat only. If it doesn't fix the fan fault first (relays, resistor etc.) and you will probably find a thermostat isn't needed.

#31: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Jordy6969 PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:47 pm
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Just one question... gotta do an airport run on Monday and my cars missing the top radiator fan relay.

Is it gonna be alright to drive, I know the fan won't be coming on but that's common sense. Just wondering if everything else is gonna be alright?

Thanks!

#32: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: kandlbarrett, Location: Swindon PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:11 am
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Shouldn't be a problem until you get stuck in traffic. Just keep a very close eye on the temp gauge. The final decision though is yours.

#33: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Jordy6969 PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:31 am
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Ye I'm used to watching it like a hawk as have had to do it for the last month as the relay has been broken. It won't affect how much coolant is running through the system will it? regarding the coolant temp sensor

#34: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:10 am
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I wouldn't.

That's the low-speed fan relay (top one) and it get's used continualy.
You will inevitably get jump-to-red and stop light flashing at you and the engine will be overheated even if just for a bit.
This can have other knock-on effects with the collant circuit pressure increasing suddenly, more than the gaskets are used-to.

#35: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Jordy6969 PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:00 am
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Well technically I've been driving without one for a while anyway so should be ok for one day because getting the relay fitted Tuesday

#36: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:23 am
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Only takes one idiot to reduce traffic to crawling pace. Chances are it won't happen on your run, but there is always the slim possibility especially near airports where people have their brain engaged in holiday mode or are too bust looking at the low flying planes.
The M56 near to Manchester Airport had 2 lanes closed for almost 24 hours this week, which pleased the people who missed their flights.

#37: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Lecktorious, Location: Scotland PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:30 pm
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Bit of a gamble tbh. I was driving my car about with no fans, funnily enough on the trip to get replacement fans I got stuck in roadworks DOH!!! just keep an eye on the water temperature and if it's getting a bit too hot, turns the cabin fan to hot and stick it on full blast.

#38: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: Jordy6969 PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:46 pm
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Cheers for your responses!

Ye I don't particularly want to do it. Do you know anyone who will stock these relays so I can get one Monday day?

#39: Re: Overheating in traffic Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:29 am
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Jordy6969 wrote:
Cheers for your responses!

Ye I don't particularly want to do it. Do you know anyone who will stock these relays so I can get one Monday day?

They're around 5 GBP from Pegeot dealer's and a highly stocked item.
Part code: 6547.TX



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