#1: best tyres for gti 180 Author: nathdavies91, Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:35 am ---- Got a gti 180 and needing new tyres on the front its running. Yokohama paradas atm and there ok but in the wet their not. The best to be honest!!! Anyone know what the best tyre or a good all round tyre ? Thanks nath.
#2: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: L5_UKS, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:25 am ---- Toyo Proxes T1R's
#3: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:31 am ---- Continental Sport Contact 3's seem very highly rated.
#4: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:41 pm ---- Read the tyre test.
1st Goodyear Eagle Asymmetric 2
2nd Michelin Pilot Sport 3
3rd Pirelli P Zero
New / tyres with the most tread should ALWAYS be fitted to the REAR axle
#5: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:55 pm ---- Tyre tests aren't great as they only test tyres on a specific car. I used F1s on my TF and they were great, put them on my corolla and they were shocking, put p zeros on and it was spot on.
As for always putting new on the back...meh, so long as you understand what grip you have and where, its irrelevant.
#6: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: rttam, Location: devonPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:09 pm ---- always had pirellis on mine had numerous sets of the pzero and have been really impressed with the handling in the dry and wet and the wear isnt too bad on them either
#7: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:14 pm ---- Michelin for me everytime.
Pilot Exalto PE2's at the moment.
Over the years i've found:
Not a fan of Pirelli after there crappy P6000's.
Goodyear's wear out far to fast & puncher easily.
Bridgestone & Firestone, not impressed with the levels of grip provided from either make.
Dunlop = usless in wet.
#8: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: nathdavies91, Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:16 pm ---- thanks for the help guys! i was lookin at my car and on the inside of the door by the tyre pressures it said pirelli p7000 so guessing thats what they came out of the factory with? was thinkin of getting them if i can get a set!! been lookin at the toyo t1rs and the reviews have all said they dont last long atall, and the parads ive got atm are brilliant in the dry but living in wales we dont get much dry weather lol. any one used the avon zz3s?
#9: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:51 pm ----
nathdavies91 wrote:
thanks for the help guys! i was lookin at my car and on the inside of the door by the tyre pressures it said pirelli p7000 so guessing thats what they came out of the factory with? was thinkin of getting them if i can get a set!! been lookin at the toyo t1rs and the reviews have all said they dont last long atall, and the parads ive got atm are brilliant in the dry but living in wales we dont get much dry weather lol. any one used the avon zz3s?
You'd be better off running the car with no tires than with ZZ3's lol.
I dont think you can get the P7000 any more, personally id go for the Michelin PE3 or Conti Sport Contact 3...quite pricy though.
#10: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Andy180, Location: Stoke on TrentPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:02 pm ---- I've Got Kumoh ecsta's on mine and ive found them to be pretty good not to expensive either.
#11: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:03 pm ----
D4NTP wrote:
As for always putting new on the back...meh, so long as you understand what grip you have and where, its irrelevant.
I just swapped mine round as the front seems to wear faster than the back, if owt ive found that the front on mine lets go well before the rear, saying that i dong have a useless torsion bar
#12: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:29 pm ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
saying that i dong have a useless torsion bar
That torsion bar arrangement is more advanced than your current torsion beam setup!
#13: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:45 pm ----
Edward wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
saying that i dong have a useless torsion bar
That torsion bar arrangement is more advanced than your current torsion beam setup!
but my torsion beam means i can go round corners faster without cocking a leg, the back end kicking out or any roll! i can also have different set up in spring and dampering rates, although the Cup setup doesnt need changing
#14: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:51 pm ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
As for always putting new on the back...meh, so long as you understand what grip you have and where, its irrelevant.
I just swapped mine round as the front seems to wear faster than the back, if owt ive found that the front on mine lets go well before the rear, saying that i dong have a useless torsion bar
being front-wheel-drive causes this
#15: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:52 pm ----
Barking wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
As for always putting new on the back...meh, so long as you understand what grip you have and where, its irrelevant.
I just swapped mine round as the front seems to wear faster than the back, if owt ive found that the front on mine lets go well before the rear, saying that i dong have a useless torsion bar
being front-wheel-drive causes this
i thought so lol, 3k miles and 2 track days proberly didnt help too
#16: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:52 pm ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
Edward wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
saying that i dong have a useless torsion bar
That torsion bar arrangement is more advanced than your current torsion beam setup!
but my torsion beam means i can go round corners faster without cocking a leg, the back end kicking out or any roll! i can also have different set up in spring and dampering rates, although the Cup setup doesnt need changing
See you at blyton on the 29th, i'll happily show you the backend of a torsion bar.....
#17: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: M60SHW, Location: CarlislePosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:38 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Read the tyre test.
New / tyres with the most tread should ALWAYS be fitted to the REAR axle
(so your tyres last longer and make the company look good )
I would always have them on the front, would rather loose the back end then have no steering,breaking
And its all down to budget I would say yoko S drive for money, grip and life
#18: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:42 pm ----
M60SHW wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Read the tyre test.
New / tyres with the most tread should ALWAYS be fitted to the REAR axle
(so your tyres last longer and make the company look good )
I would always have them on the front, would rather loose the back end then have no steering,breaking
You need the best grip on the REAR axle not the front
#19: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:12 pm ----
D4NTP wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
Edward wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
saying that i dong have a useless torsion bar
That torsion bar arrangement is more advanced than your current torsion beam setup!
but my torsion beam means i can go round corners faster without cocking a leg, the back end kicking out or any roll! i can also have different set up in spring and dampering rates, although the Cup setup doesnt need changing
See you at blyton on the 29th, i'll happily show you the backend of a torsion bar.....
Fighting talk
#20: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:19 pm ---- I always put new on the front, as I've been through two and half sets of tyres on the front to one set on the rear
I always get Parada Spec 2's, I think they are fine in the wet, and the tread pattern is cool
#21: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:29 pm ----
Lee wrote:
I always put new on the front, as I've been through two and half sets of tyres on the front to one set on the rear
I always get Parada Spec 2's, I think they are fine in the wet, and the tread pattern is cool
I think the idea is you take the part worn rears, fit them at the front then put the new ones on the rear.
#22: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:39 pm ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
Edward wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
saying that i dong have a useless torsion bar
That torsion bar arrangement is more advanced than your current torsion beam setup!
but my torsion beam means i can go round corners faster without cocking a leg, the back end kicking out or any roll! i can also have different set up in spring and dampering rates, although the Cup setup doesnt need changing
See you at blyton on the 29th, i'll happily show you the backend of a torsion bar.....
ooooo im definatly up for this!!! i hope january is a good month for business for me then
Fighting talk
oops BB fail im in bold
i'll have the camara mounted also
#23: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:43 pm ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
Edward wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
saying that i dong have a useless torsion bar
That torsion bar arrangement is more advanced than your current torsion beam setup!
but my torsion beam means i can go round corners faster without cocking a leg, the back end kicking out or any roll! i can also have different set up in spring and dampering rates, although the Cup setup doesnt need changing
See you at blyton on the 29th, i'll happily show you the backend of a torsion bar.....
ooooo im definatly up for this!!! i hope january is a good month for business for me then
Fighting talk
oops BB fail im in bold
i'll have the camara mounted also
Shurup Mattie.
#24: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:53 pm ---- Kind of back on subject..... The 206 will be doing blyton on a mixture of Maxsport rb5's, conti contact 2's, kinroads and an evergreen!
#25: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:07 pm ---- ive been using my road tyres till i wear them down
#26: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:12 pm ----
D4NTP wrote:
Lee wrote:
I always put new on the front, as I've been through two and half sets of tyres on the front to one set on the rear
I always get Parada Spec 2's, I think they are fine in the wet, and the tread pattern is cool
I think the idea is you take the part worn rears, fit them at the front then put the new ones on the rear.
Yeah I know, but might as well just put the new ones on the front rather than messing around all the time and paying to have tyres swapped.
#27: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:14 pm ----
Lee wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
Lee wrote:
I always put new on the front, as I've been through two and half sets of tyres on the front to one set on the rear
I always get Parada Spec 2's, I think they are fine in the wet, and the tread pattern is cool
I think the idea is you take the part worn rears, fit them at the front then put the new ones on the rear.
Yeah I know, but might as well just put the new ones on the front rather than messing around all the time and paying to have tyres swapped.
Wouldnt you just swap the wheels round?
#28: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Miles, Location: FordingbridgePosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:14 pm ---- Parada's are sh*t in any condition, very soft sideways and no grip no matter what car so please rule those out, For a budget option the Falken 912's are very good or the 532, you;ve got to go a long way up the chain to get anything better
#29: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:21 pm ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Lee wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
Lee wrote:
I always put new on the front, as I've been through two and half sets of tyres on the front to one set on the rear
I always get Parada Spec 2's, I think they are fine in the wet, and the tread pattern is cool
I think the idea is you take the part worn rears, fit them at the front then put the new ones on the rear.
Yeah I know, but might as well just put the new ones on the front rather than messing around all the time and paying to have tyres swapped.
Wouldnt you just swap the wheels round?
Yes
#30: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:28 pm ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Lee wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
Lee wrote:
I always put new on the front, as I've been through two and half sets of tyres on the front to one set on the rear
I always get Parada Spec 2's, I think they are fine in the wet, and the tread pattern is cool
I think the idea is you take the part worn rears, fit them at the front then put the new ones on the rear.
Yeah I know, but might as well just put the new ones on the front rather than messing around all the time and paying to have tyres swapped.
Wouldnt you just swap the wheels round?
No, because if you have kerbing on one wheel (usually the passengers front), you don't wanna risk kerbing every wheel
I love spec 2's, never had a problem with them except the snow but not many tyres are good in that weather!
#31: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:44 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Lee wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
Lee wrote:
I always put new on the front, as I've been through two and half sets of tyres on the front to one set on the rear
I always get Parada Spec 2's, I think they are fine in the wet, and the tread pattern is cool
I think the idea is you take the part worn rears, fit them at the front then put the new ones on the rear.
Yeah I know, but might as well just put the new ones on the front rather than messing around all the time and paying to have tyres swapped.
Wouldnt you just swap the wheels round?
No, because if you have kerbing on one wheel (usually the passengers front), you don't wanna risk kerbing every wheel
I love spec 2's, never had a problem with them except the snow but not many tyres are good in that weather!
I thought they were awesome in the snow lol
Also i cant agree that they are s**t, they are one of the best cost for performance tires I have found.
#32: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:04 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Lee wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
Lee wrote:
I always put new on the front, as I've been through two and half sets of tyres on the front to one set on the rear
I always get Parada Spec 2's, I think they are fine in the wet, and the tread pattern is cool
I think the idea is you take the part worn rears, fit them at the front then put the new ones on the rear.
Yeah I know, but might as well just put the new ones on the front rather than messing around all the time and paying to have tyres swapped.
Wouldnt you just swap the wheels round?
No, because if you have kerbing on one wheel (usually the passengers front), you don't wanna risk kerbing every wheel!
Or you have a TPMS and it would ruin the setup and display by swapping the wheels around
#33: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: 00budham00, Location: IpsPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:19 am ----
lukesaunders91 wrote:
Toyo Proxes T1R's
beat me to it lol
check out tyre traders dot com
good price 48 ech i got mine for
#34: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: nathdavies91, Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:22 am ---- well for one thing im not gonna start f***ing about swapping wheels over and all that ive never seen the point to be honest either way your gonna need new tyres or more than likey 4 tyres in one go! as the worn front will be on the back and the rears will wear quick on the front so kindah pointless! atm im torn between the parada spec 2s and the toyo t1R ! we'll see what the best price and the quickest delivery the garage can get as one is on 2mm lol!
#35: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:26 am ---- You'll never need 4 tyres all at once, you'll never get equal wear like that.
Only time you need that is when you run over a spike strip
#36: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: nathdavies91, Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:33 am ---- well if ya start swapping wheels around the chances are your gonna have quite worn tyres all round im not into that.
#37: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:11 pm ---- New tyres go on the back.
Wheels from the back with the partly worn tyres get balanced & moved to the front.
Your only ever replacing 2 tyres at a time which go on the rear axle.
still think this is a load of s**t, and in that video she forces the oversteer pretty obv,
my fronts which are 3-4mm which are now on the rear and no oversteer or the back end causing me too spin out or not been able to take corners in the wet at the same speed as the dry
#39: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:02 am ----
Wheels from the back with the partly worn tyres get balanced & moved to the front.
Your only ever replacing 2 tyres at a time which go on the rear axle.
still think this is a load of s**t, and in that video she forces the oversteer pretty obv,
my fronts which are 3-4mm which are now on the rear and no oversteer or the back end causing me too spin out or not been able to take corners in the wet at the same speed as the dry
I'd much rather take the advice of Michelin or any of the other tyre manufacturers on which axle to fit new tyres then you or anybody else on here
#40: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:09 am ---- I'll always put the new ones on which ever axle has the power as they are the ones that wear the quickest.
#41: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:43 am ---- I think the idea is to have the best traction at the rear to reduce the chance of oversteer and promote understeer as most people who hold a licence have no idea how to control a car when things go wrong.
#42: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: SmithyXSI, Location: Newcastle-upon-TynePosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:45 am ---- I've got the Parada Spec 2s, brilliant in the dry, questionable in the wet/greasy conditions I'd venture. Having said that they do let go progressively and its always understeer (I've swapped back/fronts around)... might be something to do with that diesel lump over the front wheels mind...
I'd have them again. In comparison to the Pirelli P6000s I had before (different wheels), they're different class.
Found Toyo T1Rs to behave similarly (to Paradas) on a past car, best I've had was Uniroyal RainSport 2s, not sure if you can get them in this size though.
Smithy
#43: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:52 am ----
Lee wrote:
I'll always put the new ones on which ever axle has the power as they are the ones that wear the quickest.
Exactly!! I'd rather have a fresh set on the front to provide most grip, especially on track.
Lets be honest, you have got to be going pretty fast to make the back end out, so it will be down to driver error at the end of the day!,
#44: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:12 am ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
Lee wrote:
I'll always put the new ones on which ever axle has the power as they are the ones that wear the quickest.
Exactly!! I'd rather have a fresh set on the front to provide most grip, especially on track.
Lets be honest, you have got to be going pretty fast to make the back end out, so it will be down to driver error at the end of the day!,
... and who drives a Focus C-max MPV around a wet track anyway? (apart from VB-H).
#45: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: nathdavies91, Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:09 pm ---- gettin paradas tomorrow! and there both goin on the front as there the ones that need replaceing!
#46: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:43 am ---- If you tyre dealer/fitter is any good, he'll swap the wheels anyway. New tyres go on rear regardless of which wheels drive .. and in my local fitters, there are plenty of signs to tell clients that!
#47: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:49 am ----
gazza82 wrote:
If you tyre dealer/fitter is any good, he'll swap the wheels anyway. New tyres go on rear regardless of which wheels drive .. and in my local fitters, there are plenty of signs to tell clients that!
Wasting your time, its been done to death already
Let the fools do what they want.
#48: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: nathdavies91, Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:48 am ---- What diffrence does it really make? The both rear tyres have plenty of tread on em so why would it matter were the new ones go on the car?
#49: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: crocdino, Location: LeedsPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:52 pm ---- I always swap them round so they all wear out together.. That way always put 4 new ones on together.
I only do it so all 4 match... I'd hate to need 2 new tyres and not be able to get 2 to match what's on.
#50: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:45 pm ---- Just don't buy those awful Bridgestone Potenza re050a. Okay-ish for the first season, but complete rubbish in the beginning of second especially in the rain . I will replace them with Federal 595rsr, but I doubt many of you UK folks are going to buy it as it's a "semi slick" tire
#51: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: sri16v, Location: WalesPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:49 pm ---- Just picked up 3 Toyo Proxes T1 R's for my 180, got a budget on the front so not the full set but quite impressed so far, had KUMHO KU31s before and couldnt fault them but thought I'd see what the Toyos were like
#52: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:34 pm ---- 595SR is one of the worse choices....
in fact i don't trust chinese tyre at all
#53: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:06 pm ---- Evo tyre test says there is very little difference in dry cornering grip with all tyres. It's in the wet that the best tyres make themselves known.
In a braking test by the time the Continental Sport Contact 3 had stopped, the Accelera tyre was still doing 20mph.
#54: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: longeatonlad, Location: long eaton, derbyshirePosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:03 pm ---- ive got falkens on the front on mine.
not sure if its a nationwide thing, but trying to find somewhere that can balnce the centreless wheels locally was a right ballache...
#55: Re: best tyres for gti 180 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:30 pm ----
longeatonlad wrote:
not sure if its a nationwide thing, but trying to find somewhere that can balnce the centreless wheels locally was a right ballache...
Its called lazyness, a lot of places are to lazy to fit the adaptor for the centreless rims on the wheel balancing machine.
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. I will replace them with Federal 595rsr, but I doubt many of you UK folks are going to buy it as it's a "semi slick" tire 
