#1: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:57 pm ---- i have looked through other problems in relation to overheating but could not find one with help to a problem i have, if there is one then i apologise for missing it, anyhow would someone please check out the following video and watch the gauge as i turn the heater on full heat and off again, then please advise, thanks very much.
Debs
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#2: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:03 pm ---- Cannot access your FB.
#3: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:28 pm ---- The problem started earlier today after a short journey of approx 2 miles, i noticed the temp needle had reached into the red and so i put on the heater to try and bring down the temp but nothing happened, the engine fan did not come on and after arriving back home i left the car to stand for over 2 hours before checking the oil and water levels but both were okay, i then started the engine from cold and it had only been running for maybe 5 minutes max and thats when i started to record the video, but this time the needle is up and down and all over the place and if you listen you will hear me turn on the heater blower but instead of the needle dropping it does actually rise, confused dot com, any suggestions anybody??
#4: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:31 pm ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Cannot access your FB.
okay thanks for the info i will go upload it to photobucket if i can, be back here in 5, thanks again.
#5: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:34 pm ---- Okay fingers crossed, the album is marked as public so i hope you can view the video now...
#6: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:43 pm ---- also since this problem started i have now noticed a fast clicking like noise when i turned the ignition key but the clicking stops when the engine starts and i let go of the key, whats all that about, the clicking sounds like its coming from the steering column area or possibly round where the fuses are underneath the steering wheel, maybe related i dont have a clue, being a woman and all that lol.
#7: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:23 pm ---- pugs are w**k i want my vtr back :0(
#8: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: furryhobnob, Location: NuneatonPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:29 pm ---- Someone will know the cause, just be patient, it could be something simple
#9: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:50 pm ---- lets hope so and thanks
#10: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:20 pm ----
206DAG wrote:
pugs are w**k i want my vtr back :0(
Same company, same components as the pug's.
#11: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:53 am ---- maybe so but a much better car all round, i really wish i had never bought this car, been one thing after another since day one.
#12: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: furryhobnob, Location: NuneatonPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:59 am ---- Sounds like you've bought a bad one as I had a gti138 for 4 years and now have a gti180 and never had to fork out for anything other than wear and tear stuff, if you look after your car it looks after you
#13: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: Taff!, Location: Havant nr PortsmouthPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:05 am ---- Have a search for sensors. I'm pretty sure I saw a few topics on here about a faulty sensor causing the temperature guauge toa ppears as if it were overheating. I can't remember if it was the green coolant temperature gauge which goes into the thermostat housing or the other sensor that's near it but apparently it can causes issues. I'll have a trawl and see if I can find those topics again too.
#14: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:35 am ---- yes mr hobnob i believe i have bought a right old pile of beep and i also use the phrase look after your car and it will look after you, no truer words spoken.
and thanks Taff i will go have another look, i just got tired of searching last night to be honest with you i will go have another look, i checked all the fuses includung the ones in the engine bay but there all good so as to what that clicking noise is and where it was coming from im not sure at all.
The best way to describe the type of clicking noise, you know when an indicator bulb goes you get a fast clicking noise inside the car, its a bit like that but not as loud.
#15: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: Taff!, Location: Havant nr PortsmouthPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:39 am ---- CLICKY
ARRAN has a similar issue... will google now
#16: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:47 pm ---- Does the car actually over heat or is it just the gauge fluctuating. Does the cooling fan cut in eventually? What engine is in your car and year?
#17: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:25 am ---- No the fan doesn't kick in, infact i have never heard the fan so i couldn't even tell you if it works or not, when i put the heater on it does blow hot any after running it yesterday and the temp gauge again went rather high when i pulled up at home i popped the bonnet and the radiator was only warm, i could touch it with my hand.
The car is a 1.4 lx 2001 'Y' plate
Thanks
#18: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: kit325, Location: LondonPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:43 am ---- two things u can check this. The 1st easy thing u can check is the thermostat, it is very common that this unit will failed and jammed up so only little or even no hot water can flow thru the radiator. Just remove it, put it in boiling hot water see if the thermostat valve will open up. If it does open up, is ok and functioning. Otherwise u need to replace it. Cost less than a tenner from eurocarparts.
The second thing u can check is the green temperature sensor, there's guide or topic regarding this on this forum. Just look for it!
Good luck!
#19: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:34 am ---- thanks very much will get my bro to check the thermo tonight if he can.
#20: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: Taff!, Location: Havant nr PortsmouthPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:58 am ---- How to
Thats for a 1.6. On a 1.4 I think it's right next to your dip stick [NE direction] vut someone else can confirm.
#21: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:40 am ---- Having now watched the video I am pretty certain that you have a thermostst that is sticking and slow to respond.
If the stat is not opening quickly enough then the radiator will be cool (warm) while your engine can be overheating. I wouldn't bet my house on it but I will be quite surprised if a new thermostst doesn't fix it.
I wouldn't bother with the hot water test; if you are taking the stat off just change it. And if the stat is just a bit slow to react then hot water test isn't good enough.
#22: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: gixxerkev, Location: wiltshirePosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:00 am ----
Also has the water pump ever been replaced? If its been erroded away over the years it wont help your problem.
#23: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:19 pm ---- not sure about the water pump as i have only had the car 6 months
#24: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:23 pm ---- does the system have to be drained before taking off the thermostat because when i started unscrewing the bolts i got some water so i quickly screwed them back up and thought i had best check before moving on.
#25: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:53 pm ---- There is no way you've got a a faulty thermostat, or a broken waterpump. My guess is the coolant sensor is playing up, there is no reason why the temp gauge would go up and down so erratically. If the Thermostart was stuck, the temperature would never come down.
Do you have A/C, if so switch it on and the low speed fan should come on. Your fan relays mayu have corroded if id does not, which is a common problem. Only way to tell for sure is get the codes read.
Also if your going to check the thermsostat, the system will need to be drained.
#26: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:16 pm ---- Steve206 / 206diag:
I have seen this with a sticking stat. Not one that is stuck partially open or shut but has a tight spot.
I have also seen it with an airlock in the system.
I have, as you state, also seen it with a defective sensor but that is more rare.
I would still bet thermostat but would not put my house on it.
I have also seen this with defective gauges and electronics.
Being a 1.4 the sensor is a blue one on the front right hand side of the cylinder head. It is a bugger to see and get at. It is NOT the green one on the thermostat housing, that one is a temperature sensor but it sends it's signal to the ECU to control fuelling. It is not the blue one on a thin steel pipe on the right of the engine bay that is for the power steering. It is not the blue one on the top of the radiator that is for the fan.
#27: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:01 am ---- The best way to tell if the thermostat was opening, would-be to feel the top and bottom radiator hoses to see if they get hot.
#28: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:26 am ---- ok so i have now checked the hoses and found that the top one is getting hot but the bottom hose isn't?
Also i switched the A/C on and the heater still blew warm air and no sign of the radiator fan turning?
#29: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: millerman, Location: KentPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:04 am ----
206DAG wrote:
ok so i have now checked the hoses and found that the top one is getting hot but the bottom hose isn't?
Also i switched the A/C on and the heater still blew warm air and no sign of the radiator fan turning?
My Wifes car had the same symptoms, top hose was hot, i changed the stat anyway, bottom hose was stone cold, from this we came to the conclusion the rad is completly blocked, the expansion bottle had what looked like the remains of a product called "Radweld" Looks like some one had filled the system with the bloody stuff to mask a leakage problem!! We also figured if the water cant get out the bottom of the rad this would then explain why it was being forced along the overflow pipe into the expansion bottle. Hope to get the new rad fitted this Saturday, only cost £34, bargain, courtesy of the Bay of E.
Re; you're a/c, on most cars when the a/c is switched on yes the fan should kick in, seems you have a problem on that front, also just because a/c is active dont mean it should be ice cold, it still works with heating control, turn it to cold and it will be, turn it to hot and it will be, in the hot position with a/c engaged this will help clear misted windows faster as the system absorbs moisture, again, i'm not an authority on Peugeot, but, this relates to most makes of Automobile.
#30: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:25 am ---- the more i read the worse things are sounding. I don't want to get ripped off with the garage because they sometimes do have a tendancy to see a female and screw her over, speaking from past experience the one time. So its going to be a garage job by the sounds of it but the repair could be a simple stat replacement, temp sensor replacement and now a possible new radiator needed. What a bad buy this car is turning out to be, i have just forked out for a exhaust from cat to back box and now this, funny thing is, the latest problems did not start until after the new exhaust system was fitted., maybe they saw me coming a second time, and now im gunna get screwed a second time. Oh well thanks everybody for your input it has been, lets say educational if not depressing lol. Take care guys and stay safe. Debs x
#31: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:40 pm ---- Get someone to unplug and reconnect each of the temperature sensors and pull gently on the wires. In fitting the exhaust they may have dislodges something.
#32: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: SteveTDCi, Location: StamfordPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:11 pm ---- i change the thermostat on my 206 without draining it, yes the fluid leaks out but put a clean tray underneath and catch the water, then just tip it back it the sensor itself can be changed without losing any fluid. The Thermostat is about £10 and the sensor £15. Have a look to see if there are two sensors near the thermostat, a brown one for the temp (not all have this but mine does) and a green one for the ECU. It might be worth checking the hoses and the expansion tank too. If its not losing water then it should be relatively simples
#33: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:38 pm ---- Well proud of myself, gave the job a go myself, purchased a new Thermostat this aft, Halfords price £23 (pffft you can keep ya stat thanks very much) sourced one for £13 from Andrew Pages, anyway fitted it all okay and now both hoses get warm the radiator gets warm and i noticed the fan also works now too, so i gave myself a big pat on the back. I would like to thank everyone for their input, i couldn't have done it without you all.
Thanks again guys.
Debs.
#34: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:44 pm ----
206DAG wrote:
Well proud of myself, gave the job a go myself, purchased a new Thermostat this aft, Halfords price £23 (pffft you can keep ya stat thanks very much) sourced one for £13 from Andrew Pages,
£13 for a thermostat
#35: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:57 pm ---- Well done - good on you. And is the temp gauge now nice and steady?
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#36: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:26 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
206DAG wrote:
Well proud of myself, gave the job a go myself, purchased a new Thermostat this aft, Halfords price £23 (pffft you can keep ya stat thanks very much) sourced one for £13 from Andrew Pages,
£13 for a thermostat
ye bargain compared to halford price of £23
#37: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:30 pm ---- thanks kandlbarrett
All steady for now but i will take it on a run in the morning and see what the gauge does, fingers crossed it doesn't do the same as before.
#38: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:07 am ---- Have you put coolant in as well?
#39: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:49 am ----
206DAG wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
206DAG wrote:
Well proud of myself, gave the job a go myself, purchased a new Thermostat this aft, Halfords price £23 (pffft you can keep ya stat thanks very much) sourced one for £13 from Andrew Pages,
£13 for a thermostat
ye bargain compared to halford price of £23
I'd rather go straight to Peugeot / Citroen main dealer & save money on both those prices
#40: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:16 pm ---- yes Steve i topped up the coolant and bled the system after replacing the stat thanks for the reminder though
#41: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: 206DAG, Location: WakefieldPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:36 am ---- well 2 months since i fitted the new Stat now and the car has been running fine without any problems in regards to the temp gauge. So the stat was the problem. Thanks for everybody's input, much appreciated. Debs
#42: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: MrMorris, Location: Over that hill.Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:57 am ---- Sorry to wake up an old and finished thread.
But while your car was being a dog, you didn't notice if you could turn the radiator fan by hand?
My cars over heating at the moment (our few days of summer) and the temp doesn't fall, only climbs while stationary. Driving along it drops back to 80ish.
I can't turn the radiator fan by hand either.
No problems if no1 replies as it is an old thread now.
#43: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:12 am ---- What temp does it rise to? As to me your car sounds normal.
#44: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: VorTechS, Location: Gloucestershire, UKPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:37 am ---- @MrMorris: Sounds more like your fan relays are screwed and the fan isn't kicking in, which is a common problem. (I have this same problem, but have not yet had chance to look at it)
#45: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: MrMorris, Location: Over that hill.Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:56 am ---- My temps rise all the way to Max and red STOP comes on.
Like I say, the fan is impossible to turn by hand, blades feel like they will snap before fan turns.
Relays are th electric plugs at bottom of radiator??
Sorry for hijacking this thread
#46: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: VorTechS, Location: Gloucestershire, UKPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:00 am ---- Oh didn't read the bit about the fan being seized properly, that'll need sorting out first! You should be able to turn in by hand.
Checking the relays too would be a good thing, as it's possible the fans seized due to it not kicking in for a while because of problems with the relay.
#47: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: MrMorris, Location: Over that hill.Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:08 am ---- Can it be un-seized, or do I have to buy a new fan? They are 100 quid on euro car partparts
#48: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: VorTechS, Location: Gloucestershire, UKPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:19 am ---- I'm not aware of anyone fixing a seized fan. Try a breakers, or Ebay for a cheaper option!
#49: Re: 206 temperature problems Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:31 am ---- I've got the fan off my GTi for sale works fine.
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