#1: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:52 am ---- polluction light on, plus the eml light has come on to, did what it said in the book and went for a drive at 40mph in 5th. eml still on. we have had the car 3weeks and its done few jorneys most of which have been motorway driving and at constant 70mph. so not really short journeys. what should i do and why has the eml light come on aswell?
and i don't want any stupid comments from mrbsi. just advice to fix this.
i was thinking of taking the pdf off and either trieing to clean it of by just smashing out the honeycome and getting it mapped out! any one know where i can get it mapped out that safe and won't destroy the engine?
#2: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:54 am ---- Get the codes read, then you will know whats wrong.
MrBSI for Prime Minister
#3: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:30 am ---- is this worth a try? wbsatwestmount.blogspo...ilter.html
#4: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:54 am ---- its worth a try, but to be honest the car does not need it, it is not a legal requirement, nor an mot requirement. so when mine goes i shall be having it removed completely including eloys and egr, on the up side having it hollowed out and removed from the bsi then mapped accordingly should see you get around 136ish bhp, not far off the petrol model.
#5: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:10 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Get the codes read, then you will know whats wrong.
+1
Ghosty wrote:
its worth a try, but to be honest the car does not need it, it is not a legal requirement, nor an mot requirement. so when mine goes i shall be having it removed completely including eloys and egr, on the up side having it hollowed out and removed from the bsi then mapped accordingly should see you get around 136ish bhp, not far off the petrol model.
You may wish to check the current MOT regulations
#6: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:13 am ---- my mate does all my mots, so im sure he can find a work around, as it will also be him doing the work
#7: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:44 am ---- Where the hell is everyone getting this saying of, 'mapping it out'?
#8: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:51 am ---- It has to look lile it is there. current mots will not fail it. but ithas to appear to be there on cars that came with it new. some 206s did not. so shouldn't be a problem. map it out. is that not a term for telling the csr not to read the sesors.
#9: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:59 am ---- Whats a CSR?
And it's either clearing fault codes or disabling systems/sensors.
#10: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:27 pm ----
vauxfan wrote:
and i don't want any stupid comments from mrbsi
Thats me told then
#11: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:29 pm ---- Disable. that what i nen't. csr should be ecu. i am usins my phone not computer. so pressing allsorts.
#12: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:33 pm ---- Also car is at peugeot next wed for a free 15 min diagnostic and general check.
#13: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:47 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
vauxfan wrote:
and i don't want any stupid comments from mrbsi
Thats me told then
MrBSI's in the quiet corner
#14: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:49 pm ----
LeeThr wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
vauxfan wrote:
and i don't want any stupid comments from mrbsi
Thats me told then
MrBSI's in the quiet corner
Not my problem or wallet paying for it is it
#15: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:53 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
vauxfan wrote:
and i don't want any stupid comments from mrbsi
Thats me told then
MrBSI's in the quiet corner
Not my problem or wallet paying for it is it
Paying for what? The car to be fixed or the quiet corner?
#16: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:53 pm ---- Believe me if its the dpf it will become a hollow box and then a map. which will incorperate more power. so not gonna lose ouy that say. plus should not cost much.
#17: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:55 pm ---- What do you mean a map? If you mean you'r going to remap the engine ECU it wont fix the issue's in there the DPF has caused.
#18: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:18 pm ---- A few weeks ago the sugestions from here were to take the dpf off and sort the ecu so that it will no longer try and do a regen or through up any faults relating to it, also by playing with the ecu you can map it at the same time.thats what i mean by mapping it out. also the fault has gone now! must have been the 50mph drive.
#19: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:26 pm ----
vauxfan wrote:
It has to look lile it is there. current mots will not fail it. but ithas to appear to be there on cars that came with it new. some 206s did not. so shouldn't be a problem. map it out. is that not a term for telling the csr not to read the sesors.
If YOUR 206 left the factory with a DPF, it must be present for the MOT.
Doesn't matter what other models left the factory with, it's your car being tested.
#20: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:38 pm ---- Not entirely true. your car has to look like it has a pdf. they have been advised to not refuse any diesel car that they only suspect migjt have the dpf smashed out. as diesels pass emisions with out eithrr. and you can in theory build a sheild around you exhaust and they are not aloud to remove it!
#21: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Seabook, Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:44 pm ---- this is true....
as the mot tester handbook mention is "obviously missing"; so if the casting is still there they can't tell by naked eye
#22: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:28 pm ---- this is a direct quote from the mot hand book, it is not to say however that things won't change in the future
The fitment of a catalytic converter to petrol engine vehicles is mandatory for vehicles of the specified age and type e.g. passenger car, goods etc. The MOT Inspection Manual can therefore specify exactly what petrol engine vehicles must have a catalyst fitted.
However, whilst diesel engine vehicles are required to meet certain emissions limits for Type Approval, the method used to achieve this is not specified. It was left to the engine manufacturer to decide how to meet Euro 3, 4, 5 etc emissions standards.
For this reason, testers would be unable to readily determine which vehicles are OE fitted with a Diesel Oxidation Catalyst (DOC), Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) or Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) system.
It was therefore considered that the introduction of a Reason for Rejection for a missing diesel catalyst at this stage, whilst complying with the Directive, was likely to lead to many incorrect failures, which is clearly unacceptable.
The matter is under review and may therefore change in the future.
#23: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:23 pm ----
vauxfan wrote:
The matter is under review and may therefore change in the future.
Thats the key line, its ok saying that then or now, but it could change tomorrow.
I had/have a Hdi Gti, i was going to get the dpf removed and remapped for £400 from somewhere in Keighley, but seeing as i crashed it, there's no point now.
#24: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:25 pm ---- i rang that place i think! for got the name but they quoted me £280. but i didn't want a replacment pipe, i want a dpf looking pipe with the map.
#25: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:35 pm ---- Yeah i cant remember what i asked for, but got quoted £400, but as the car is sitting on the drive looking sorry for itself, its not going to happen now.
#26: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:39 pm ---- take the dpf off and give to me..... lol
#27: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:44 pm ---- Its blocked Didnt affect the drive at all tho. One of reasons i bought a new car, got a petrol one, wish id gone for another diesel, was put off by the dpf because mines blocked. Altho, not sure on how bad the damage is to mine, so might getit back on the road and flog the new motor. Or just sell it as it is for a knock down price.
I know the hdi gti has its problems, the dpf, the flywheel,but i loved mine Drove great
#28: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:51 pm ---- but asalready said, get the dpf internally removed, map it and fit a revised dmfor single flywheel and i bet it will be a better car than alot of new 1s, the diesel gti isn't slow for a 1.6 as is. so with the extra mods i bet the car would be a little gem. better than any 1.4 petrol that has as similar tax and insurance comparison
#29: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:58 pm ---- My mechanic thought mine was mapped already, said it was overly quick. i thought it was just the car. Get no argument out of me, i think they are great.
#30: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:10 pm ----
Squeaker wrote:
My mechanic thought mine was mapped already, said it was overly quick. i thought it was just the car. Get no argument out of me, i think they are great.
I'd still have the 2.0HDi any day.
#31: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:21 pm ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Squeaker wrote:
My mechanic thought mine was mapped already, said it was overly quick. i thought it was just the car. Get no argument out of me, i think they are great.
I'd still have the 2.0HDi any day.
Thats because you actually have some sense Tom
#32: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:26 pm ----
LeeThr wrote:
tomd0801754 wrote:
Squeaker wrote:
My mechanic thought mine was mapped already, said it was overly quick. i thought it was just the car. Get no argument out of me, i think they aOre great.
I'd still have the 2.0HDi any day.
Thats because you actually have some sense Tom
:'( I'm framing that comment!
Simon is special though. He supports Sheffield Wednesday.
#33: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:08 am ---- why have the 2l hdi? isn't that 90 bhp? big heavy slow lump?
#34: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:09 am ---- mrbsi, is your car a 207 1.6 thp?
#35: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: nellyhaggis, Location: SheffieldPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:21 am ---- www.mdexhausts.co.uk/d...l-service/
#36: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: nellyhaggis, Location: SheffieldPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:25 am ---- Looks ok to me.
Ive just emailed them for a price.
If there are a few people interested Im sure there will be a discount.
#37: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:01 am ---- The reason for having the 2litre lump is its bulletproof. there's only 2 faults on them which got fixed years ago and with regular servicing and maintenance will go on for mile after mile faultlessly.
Also MrBSI has a 1.4 TU3 lump 206
#38: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:31 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
tomd0801754 wrote:
Squeaker wrote:
My mechanic thought mine was mapped already, said it was overly quick. i thought it was just the car. Get no argument out of me, i think they aOre great.
I'd still have the 2.0HDi any day.
Thats because you actually have some sense Tom
:'( I'm framing that comment! :po
Simon is special though. He supports Sheffield Wednesday.
Hmm, Wednesday supporter its hard work lately
Tom the 2l is like Madine, a big lump he'll even get a goal every now and then. Where as the 1.6 is more like a Messi, not only does he get the goals, but he puts a smile on ya face doing it
Buy mine, dont think its that bad, bet you'd end up in the 1.6
#39: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:37 am ---- I'd take the 2l any day. It's got proven reliability. The 1.6 was like peugeot trying to reinvent the wheel and screwed it up big time.
#40: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:58 am ---- I disagree, they are great little cars, quick, economical and fun to drive.
If maintained and dpf regenerates regulary, they are solid.
You say the 2l has 2 faults, so does the 1'6, because the cost difference is diffrrent is no reason to villify the 1.6as.much as people do on here.
Engineers of other msnufacturers thought the engine good enough to put it other vehicles.
#41: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:58 am ---- I disagree, they are great little cars, quick, economical and fun to drive.
If maintained and dpf regenerates regulary, they are solid.
You say the 2l has 2 faults, so does the 1'6, because the cost difference is diffrrent is no reason to villify the 1.6as.much as people do on here.
Engineers of other msnufacturers thought the engine good enough to put it other vehicles.
#42: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:59 am ----
vauxfan wrote:
why have the 2l hdi? isn't that 90 bhp? big heavy slow lump?
Wow. 20bhp. Easily sorted.
A 'good' car isn't all about the power.
However if it is. Add up the cost of De-Fap, flywheel conversion, changing to a decent FMIC and map. Use the same amount of money on tuning a 2.0HDi I wonder which one would be more powerful.
#43: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:00 am ----
Squeaker wrote:
tomd0801754 wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
tomd0801754 wrote:
Squeaker wrote:
My mechanic thought mine was mapped already, said it was overly quick. i thought it was just the car. Get no argument out of me, i think they aOre great.
I'd still have the 2.0HDi any day.
Thats because you actually have some sense Tom
:'( I'm framing that comment! :po
Simon is special though. He supports Sheffield Wednesday.
Hmm, Wednesday supporter its hard work lately
Tom the 2l is like Madine, a big lump he'll even get a goal every now and then. Where as the 1.6 is more like a Messi, not only does he get the goals, but he puts a smile on ya face doing it
A 206 like Messi? You turned to crack mate?
Bias is on both sides here, lets be honest.
Buy mine, dont think its that bad, bet you'd end up in the 1.6
#44: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:03 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
vauxfan wrote:
why have the 2l hdi? isn't that 90 bhp? big heavy slow lump?
Wow. 20bhp. Easily sorted.
A 'good' car isn't all about the power.
However if it is. Add up the cost of De-Fap, flywheel conversion, changing to a decent FMIC and map. Use the same amount of money on tuning a 2.0HDi I wonder which one would be more powerful.
Trip to the scrappy where they have a 406, they made 110bhp variants of the 2l lump in that Or maybe a transplat from the 407 where they run 140 with 6 speed box.
Im not a diseasel fan at all, always have been a petrol head allways will be. But I would choose the 2l lump any day even if it does have 20bhp less.
Also the 2 faults on the 2litre dont cause anywhere near the headache the problems on the 1.6 do. If the problem does creap up on a 2litre it doesnt stop you driving it at full power.
#45: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:04 am ---- Yeah it is, I loved mine, got an Ibiza now :/
P.s you csn have Madine back Last edited by Squeaker on Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:06 am; edited 1 time in total
#46: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:06 am ----
Squeaker wrote:
Yeah it is, I loved mine, got an Ibiza now :/
How did you manage to crash it? (PM if needs be).
(Would text but lost your number a while ago!)
#47: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:46 am ----
vauxfan wrote:
why have the 2l hdi? isn't that 90 bhp? big heavy slow lump?
Because there bulletproof & proven time & again to do 400K + miles if looked after
2.0 HDI = best diesel lump you can get in the 206
If I did more miles i'd happily have one.
#48: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:50 am ----
vauxfan wrote:
mrbsi, is your car a 207 1.6 thp?
I wouldnt have a 207 if it was given to me, there nasty pieces of p**s poorly designed overweight French s**te.
Having a 207 as a loan car was bad enough, I made sure I always got 107 loan cars after that as they are a bloody good car
#49: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: nellyhaggis, Location: SheffieldPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:50 pm ---- Has anyone done 400k plus in a 2.0 hdi?
#50: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:52 pm ----
nellyhaggis wrote:
Has anyone done 400k plus in a 2.0 hdi?
Many times.
#51: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:01 pm ---- 1.4 tu3, lol no wonder you keep slating the hdi, jealousy. you say cost involved in sorting the 2 110 faults, dpf can be smashed out for free. ecu sorted to eliminate any dpf associated software with a remap done at the same time! £200. then there's the flat fly wheel at £350. can fit for free. £130bhp in a little light 1.6l alloy block. that isn't bad at all.
2l heavy block 90bhp 206. ok it will do loads of miles but any big engined car with little power will. hardly straining the car is it? and like you said 20 hp is easily sorted, but it will still be 20hp as the little 1.6 hdi is just as easily sorted. never got the 2l engine in the 206, seemed to big and under powered to be a good buy.
#52: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: nellyhaggis, Location: SheffieldPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:41 pm ---- What is the spec of the fly wheel?
#53: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:44 am ---- i think its a valeo
#54: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:05 am ----
vauxfan wrote:
1.4 tu3, lol no wonder you keep slating the hdi, jealousy. you say cost involved in sorting the 2 110 faults, dpf can be smashed out for free. ecu sorted to eliminate any dpf associated software with a remap done at the same time! £200. then there's the flat fly wheel at £350. can fit for free. £130bhp in a little light 1.6l alloy block. that isn't bad at all.
2l heavy block 90bhp 206. ok it will do loads of miles but any big engined car with little power will. hardly straining the car is it? and like you said 20 hp is easily sorted, but it will still be 20hp as the little 1.6 hdi is just as easily sorted. never got the 2l engine in the 206, seemed to big and under powered to be a good buy.
I'd much rather a TU3 lump over the 1.6hdi oh wait Ive got one. Mine's been abused and its been spot on. Now on 120K and if I get my a**e into gear and give it some TLC it'll do that again no problem. We are in no way jelous of your s***ty engine.
Also a remap will not remove the DPF from the ECU. You need Peugeot Plannet to tweak the BSI to tell it its not there anymore. An engine ECU remap will not touch this.
#55: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:06 am ----
LeeThr wrote:
vauxfan wrote:
1.4 tu3, lol no wonder you keep slating the hdi, jealousy. you say cost involved in sorting the 2 110 faults, dpf can be smashed out for free. ecu sorted to eliminate any dpf associated software with a remap done at the same time! £200. then there's the flat fly wheel at £350. can fit for free. £130bhp in a little light 1.6l alloy block. that isn't bad at all.
2l heavy block 90bhp 206. ok it will do loads of miles but any big engined car with little power will. hardly straining the car is it? and like you said 20 hp is easily sorted, but it will still be 20hp as the little 1.6 hdi is just as easily sorted. never got the 2l engine in the 206, seemed to big and under powered to be a good buy.
I'd much rather a TU3 lump over the 1.6hdi oh wait Ive got one. Mine's been abused and its been spot on. Now on 120K and if I get my a**e into gear and give it some TLC it'll do that again no problem. We are in no way jelous of your s***ty engine.
Also a remap will not remove the DPF from the ECU. You need Peugeot Plannet to tweak the BSI to tell it its not there anymore. An engine ECU remap will not touch this.
Ok virgins, calm down.
#56: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:08 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
vauxfan wrote:
1.4 tu3, lol no wonder you keep slating the hdi, jealousy. you say cost involved in sorting the 2 110 faults, dpf can be smashed out for free. ecu sorted to eliminate any dpf associated software with a remap done at the same time! £200. then there's the flat fly wheel at £350. can fit for free. £130bhp in a little light 1.6l alloy block. that isn't bad at all.
2l heavy block 90bhp 206. ok it will do loads of miles but any big engined car with little power will. hardly straining the car is it? and like you said 20 hp is easily sorted, but it will still be 20hp as the little 1.6 hdi is just as easily sorted. never got the 2l engine in the 206, seemed to big and under powered to be a good buy.
I'd much rather a TU3 lump over the 1.6hdi oh wait Ive got one. Mine's been abused and its been spot on. Now on 120K and if I get my a**e into gear and give it some TLC it'll do that again no problem. We are in no way jelous of your s***ty engine.
Also a remap will not remove the DPF from the ECU. You need Peugeot Plannet to tweak the BSI to tell it its not there anymore. An engine ECU remap will not touch this.
Ok virgins, calm down.
Hey, my TU3 know's im not
#57: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:09 am ---- It's not just the DMF and FAP that are the issue with the DV6
EHPS pump, Peugeot only part. Anyone care to log onto Peugeot Service Box and post up the price inc. VAT
#58: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:12 am ----
G. wrote:
It's not just the DMF and FAP that are the issue with the DV6
EHPS pump, Peugeot only part. Anyone care to log onto Peugeot Service Box and post up the price inc. VAT
Give me a clue where to find it and I shall. Got servicebox open now.
#59: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:17 am ----
G. wrote:
It's not just the DMF and FAP that are the issue with the DV6
EHPS pump, Peugeot only part. Anyone care to log onto Peugeot Service Box and post up the price inc. VAT
00004007NX ELEC PUMP P A S £510.67 inc VAT
#60: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:27 am ----
CD-B3 wrote:
G. wrote:
It's not just the DMF and FAP that are the issue with the DV6
EHPS pump, Peugeot only part. Anyone care to log onto Peugeot Service Box and post up the price inc. VAT
00004007NX ELEC PUMP P A S £510.67 inc VAT
You've got labour on top of that
EHPS pump is next to the wheel arch, catches all the crap from the road and the wires are copper coated rather than solid copper. Not the best design
#61: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:32 am ----
G. wrote:
CD-B3 wrote:
G. wrote:
It's not just the DMF and FAP that are the issue with the DV6
EHPS pump, Peugeot only part. Anyone care to log onto Peugeot Service Box and post up the price inc. VAT
00004007NX ELEC PUMP P A S £510.67 inc VAT
You've got labour on top of that
EHPS pump is next to the wheel arch, catches all the crap from the road and the wires are copper coated rather than solid copper. Not the best design
French and there brilliant half thought ideas yet again
#62: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:36 am ----
vauxfan wrote:
1.4 tu3, lol no wonder you keep slating the hdi, jealousy.
Nope, Im just smart enough to avoid the crap DV6 engine
If I wanted a HDI I would have got the 2.0 version, mileage I do in a year its not really cost effective.
I could go out tomorrow & spend £15k on a brand new car if I wanted, no point at the moment when my TU3 206 does everything I want & costs me buttons to run.
Its old & worth sod all but does me fine, when it eventually needs replacement ill just throw it away & get another car.
I like the looks of the new Suzuki Swift Sport thats just come out or the new Kia C'eed GTI when its launched later this year, but until the 206 needs replacing ill just keep driving it & saving £ at the same time
#63: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:49 pm ---- We have had 2 tu3 engined pugs. slow for a 1.4 and ours wasn't the god sed that leeth seems to see through his rose coloured windscreen. lol
#64: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:51 pm ----
vauxfan wrote:
We have had 2 tu3 engined pugs. slow for a 1.4
I know for a fact both a TU3 206 / Citroen C3 will do 113mph gps speed / 114 on the speedo
Remember your asking a 1360cc engine which was originally designed in the mid 1980's with only 75 bhp to drag nearly a ton of weight around. Last edited by MrBSI on Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:57 pm; edited 1 time in total
#65: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:55 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
vauxfan wrote:
We have had 2 tu3 engined pugs. slow for a 1.4
I know for a fact both a TU3 206 / Citroen C3 will do 113mph gps speed / 114 on the speedo
Really? Mine only did 109 But that was uphill with a passenger and a boot full of sub & tools
#66: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:57 pm ----
vauxfan wrote:
We have had 2 tu3 engined pugs. slow for a 1.4 and ours wasn't the god sed that leeth seems to see through his rose coloured windscreen. lol
NA wise the TU3 block was just as good as the TU5 block in terms of power/ litre.
on the plus side is more reliable....
#67: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:03 pm ---- Ive only ever managed to break 1 TU engine, it was a TU1 in a Saxo loan car & I did it on purpose due to the garage messing me around.
85mph, drop it in to 2nd, rev counter goes past 8k end of dial, valve gear then very noisy & it started drinking oil
#68: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:04 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Ive only ever managed to break 1 TU engine, it was a TU1 in a Saxo loan car & I did it on purpose due to the garage messing me around.
85mph, drop it in to 2nd, rev counter goes past 8k end of dial, valve gear then very noisy & it started drinking oil
how did you manage to pop into 2nd at that speed lol
#69: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:05 pm ----
Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Ive only ever managed to break 1 TU engine, it was a TU1 in a Saxo loan car & I did it on purpose due to the garage messing me around.
85mph, drop it in to 2nd, rev counter goes past 8k end of dial, valve gear then very noisy & it started drinking oil
how did you manage to pop into 2nd at that speed lol
With a lot of force I imagine
#70: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:06 pm ----
Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Ive only ever managed to break 1 TU engine, it was a TU1 in a Saxo loan car & I did it on purpose due to the garage messing me around.
85mph, drop it in to 2nd, rev counter goes past 8k end of dial, valve gear then very noisy & it started drinking oil
how did you manage to pop into 2nd at that speed lol
Depress clutch pedal, move gear lever down, across to the left & down again, engauge clutch pedal & hold on tight
#71: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:10 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Ive only ever managed to break 1 TU engine, it was a TU1 in a Saxo loan car & I did it on purpose due to the garage messing me around.
85mph, drop it in to 2nd, rev counter goes past 8k end of dial, valve gear then very noisy & it started drinking oil
how did you manage to pop into 2nd at that speed lol
Depress clutch pedal, move gear lever down, across to the left & down again, engauge clutch pedal & hold on tight
lol
think my synchro was death then, can't downshift if the rev. wasn't right.
#72: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:11 pm ----
Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Ive only ever managed to break 1 TU engine, it was a TU1 in a Saxo loan car & I did it on purpose due to the garage messing me around.
85mph, drop it in to 2nd, rev counter goes past 8k end of dial, valve gear then very noisy & it started drinking oil
how did you manage to pop into 2nd at that speed lol
Depress clutch pedal, move gear lever down, across to the left & down again, engauge clutch pedal & hold on tight
lol
think my synchro was death then, can't downshift if the rev. wasn't right.
Whats a Synchro?
#73: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:12 pm ---- Wasnt my car so it was going in no matter what
#74: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:12 pm ----
LeeThr wrote:
Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Ive only ever managed to break 1 TU engine, it was a TU1 in a Saxo loan car & I did it on purpose due to the garage messing me around.
85mph, drop it in to 2nd, rev counter goes past 8k end of dial, valve gear then very noisy & it started drinking oil
how did you manage to pop into 2nd at that speed lol
Depress clutch pedal, move gear lever down, across to the left & down again, engauge clutch pedal & hold on tight
lol
think my synchro was death then, can't downshift if the rev. wasn't right.
Whats a Synchro?
?
synchro ring in the gearbox\?
#75: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:14 pm ----
Seabook wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Ive only ever managed to break 1 TU engine, it was a TU1 in a Saxo loan car & I did it on purpose due to the garage messing me around.
85mph, drop it in to 2nd, rev counter goes past 8k end of dial, valve gear then very noisy & it started drinking oil
how did you manage to pop into 2nd at that speed lol
Depress clutch pedal, move gear lever down, across to the left & down again, engauge clutch pedal & hold on tight
lol
think my synchro was death then, can't downshift if the rev. wasn't right.
Whats a Synchro?
?
synchro ring in the gearbox\?
I was trying to be sarchastic. But it really doesnt work well in text lol.
#76: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:39 pm ---- what i do find strange though is a set bunch of people that all they have to offer is more of a laugh in your face attitude and less of an actual helpful post, then there is the others that just repeat what the others say with out any factual information, just hearsay! i apprieciate the help of some of you guys that want to help but, considering the known faults with this so called engine i have yet to see any real posts about how and where and at what prices the things are that will make the engine reliable. I am on a bmw site and can tell you where you can find any part at good prices and what you need to do to most e46s to make sure you go for ever. but on here i havn't had 1 post that points me in any proper direction. i guess most are just 'its what i have heard' people.
i Dowonder is they guy that invented this site was after helping fellow 206 owners or wheather he wanted members to put other owners off the brand? i wonder.
ps, i'm not p**sed off! its just a general thought. on another note though the peugeot forums seem to offer infomative help.
#77: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:00 am ---- just read the tons of posts after mine,
i went to see my friend yesterday to get my headlights realigned just to make sure my hid's wernt causing to much dazzle (but that is a different issue).
while there i asked about the possibility of a dpf removal, i was told that
A, until it actually needs work, to not worry about it.
B, as people have said, as it was factory fitted with a dpf, it would need to have a dpf looking pipe there.
so after talking for a while, we came up with a better solution, when it goes, smash out the dpf, but wield in a solid through pipe, so it will basically be a straight throught exhaust but it will look like it has a dpf, the rest of the system would have to remain, but never be used as the bsi would be updated accordingly
mapping it out (re-mapping, removing form the bsi), would actually give the car close to 140bhp, which added to the torque of the diesel should easily nail a petrol GTi.
as for the debate on the 2.0 HDi vs. 1.6 HDi, i have owned both and driven both, the 2.0 is alot slower in comparison there is no power till high in the rev range, by which point you negate the point of having a diesel. wheras the 1.6 has power from the get go, it just drives is effortless and actually a joy to drive. yes they do both have there faults, but on balance i would still rather have the 1.6.
sorry to op for not actually giving a straight respose in what he asked for,
my friend can do all the work bar the pug planet/remap for about £50-£100.
#78: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:38 am ----
vauxfan wrote:
what i do find strange though is a set bunch of people that all they have to offer is more of a laugh in your face attitude and less of an actual helpful post, then there is the others that just repeat what the others say with out any factual information, just hearsay! i apprieciate the help of some of you guys that want to help but, considering the known faults with this so called engine i have yet to see any real posts about how and where and at what prices the things are that will make the engine reliable. I am on a bmw site and can tell you where you can find any part at good prices and what you need to do to most e46s to make sure you go for ever. but on here i havn't had 1 post that points me in any proper direction. i guess most are just 'its what i have heard' people.
i Dowonder is they guy that invented this site was after helping fellow 206 owners or wheather he wanted members to put other owners off the brand? i wonder.
ps, i'm not p**sed off! its just a general thought. on another note though the peugeot forums seem to offer infomative help.
thanks mate, that is the sort of response that seems realistic. i have also just been to peugeot main dealers today and as them about swapping out the flywheel for a solid type, they said it was a good idea and told me to get a price from motor factors. valeo 4p is the kit i want. the dpf is also recomended by THEM to be removed but said to get a reputable company to forget about anything relating to the dpf. i think for now i will get a solid fly, and when the car starts to make a noise i will replace it! then once that is done the dpf can be smashed out and written out, then on with the remap. as you said the car will make good power after that. ps they also told me to go down the motorway in 4th at 70mph for 15mins to clean it out.
#79: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:19 am ---- Well let this be the first bit of real info. valeo do not do a solid fly wheel for the 2005 206 hdi. apparently there isn' t a demand for it..
#80: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:38 am ----
vauxfan wrote:
valeo do not do a solid fly wheel for the 2005 206 hdi. apparently there isn' t a demand for it..
There is a good reason there isnt a demand for it
#81: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: vauxfan, Location: yorkPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:42 am ---- Yes its a newer designed fly wheel. early 1s have 1 though?
#82: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: mickha, Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:38 pm ---- Well ive just joined this site in the hope !!!!! of joining a community which helps one another. This does seem apparently possible as long as its a 2.0 hdi or petrol 206 you drive if dare i say you have a 1.6 hdi seems you become the the brunt for everyone to take the p**s (excuse my language). Is this really how this forum works !!!!!! What does it matter which engine you have surely its about sharing experiences and helping each other out. Obviously wont be somewhere i visit often. Oh and just before the comments come please note previous car was a 206 2.0 hdi mapped to 130 bhp and yes bullet proof except the clutch when mapped just cheaper to replace. But yet i still decided to buy the 1.6 hdi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#83: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: mickha, Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:42 pm ---- Typo there 120 bhp
#84: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:55 pm ---- The reason we take the p**s is because 9 times out of 10 people come on here for advice on which hdi to buy, and we tell them which is bullet proof and why the 1.6 should be avoided, but then they ignore us which then within a short time the problems we spoke of come to light.
I think the record so far is about 3 days from buying the car to antipolution fault.
#85: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:30 am ---- I too have had the abuse even when I was warned about the car and then I went and bought one and 3 days later my DPF f****d up. But there are a handful of people who do help without abuse.
I had the whole thing removed for £450 including the software at a place in Essex. No problems regarding the DPF.
I did however have the anti pollution light come on this week, but that's been sorted by diagnosing a faulty fuel cap sensor.
No one talks about this engine being used in the Ford Focus, Ford Fiesta, Citroen C4 & C5...etc go on wikipedia if you want to see how many other motors use this engine.
I wouldn't recommend removing the DPF youself - the toxic fumes will not do you any good at all.
LeeThr - I wouldn't have bought my car if the owner had come clean about it in the beginning. The rest of the car was fine and has been fine since it was removed.
Yes Micka - this is not a community that helps you, only bullies and takes the p**s - you go on most other forums and they are most willing to help you out. There is no community here unless its for the 2.0 HDI
Maybe you should rename this forum to "The Peugeot 206 2.0 HDI Exchange" - you won't have much to talk about as they are quality engines and nothing goes wrong with them at all!!!
P.S. I had another problem yesterday. My doors locked while I was inside the car. Yes it was unlocked on the fob and even on the button in the car.
If I was in an accident and I couldn't get out in a hurry then I imagine I would be killed. That has never happened to me in any other car i've owned and it happened regardless if it was a 2.0 or a 1.6 - f*****g dangerous electrical issues.
#86: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:37 am ----
vauxfan wrote:
Yes its a newer designed fly wheel. early 1s have 1 though?
I've read somewhere that you can use the solid 207 flywheel on the 206- but there were no photos.
#87: Re: 2005 206 hdi gti anti poll and eml light on Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:24 am ---- im in your camp (not literally, more figrativly), as i have a hdi gti, it been sat in my mates garage for 6 months, yes people take the p**s all you like, you caan read my thread reguarding the problems i have had reguarding the dpf removal, and subsiquent issues.
an update, got a recon turbo after mine died at approx 114k miles, this second turbo did just 2500 miles before the shaft snapped, and its due to thhe legal battle im in with the company my car has been sat for so long. i have sourced a turbo from a breaker (51k on the clock, yes i know not the best idea but i need to get the car shifted from my mates so i can try and sort the other problems), then i will begin working on it again, hopefully sorting some of the problems out.
dont let the f**ktards get you down, as long as your happy with your car then to hell with them. if you have read this thread fully you will see i have owned both a 2.0l hdi and now the 1.6l hdi gti, and for what its worth even through all the problems im having, id still pick the 1.6 over the 2.0 it suits my driving style more (well it does when it drives).
as for other cars the dv6 is in you forgot to mention bmw, both mini, 1 and 3 series use them, as do nissan, as do volvo. this engine is however known for high carbon production, which is what ultimatly kills them. the turbo if treated right is actually a solid unit, the dpf well thats a different story.
ok i have talked enought.
206HdiGti wrote:
P.S. I had another problem yesterday. My doors locked while I was inside the car. Yes it was unlocked on the fob and even on the button in the car.
If I was in an accident and I couldn't get out in a hurry then I imagine I would be killed. That has never happened to me in any other car i've owned and it happened regardless if it was a 2.0 or a 1.6 - f*****g dangerous electrical issues.
this is caused by the auto locking feature (auto deadlocking) being active, basically it locks the doors on driving past 5mph, in the event of a crash/rollover the locking releases (never crashed or rolled mine so i dont know if that bits true), it can be de-activated by
1, turning the ignition to position 1
2, pressing and holding the interior lock button (next the the hazzard button) for 5 secs (you will hear a bong and the mfd will show auto deadlocking de-activated, i think)
3, to re-activate follow steps 1 and 2 again (mfd will display auto-deadlocking activated).
its a hand feature, i have it set to on as i like to know some dip-s**t cant car-jack me,
p.s i you ever want a sensible chat or some halp with your hdi gti, pm me.
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:'( 
I'm framing that comment! 
But that was uphill with a passenger and a boot full of sub & tools 
120 bhp
