#1: Tyre/Steering Author: Jeff48, Location: North LincsPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:27 am ---- Hi,I had new Kumho 195-55-15 put on the front of my 2005 1.6 sport and all 4 wheels tracked. The problem is that the can seems to follow imperfections in the road,and at speed feels a bit "light/loose" is as best I can describe it!! Any Ideas?? Thanks.
#2: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:31 am ---- First check would be tyre pressures.
Any car even with perfect suspension and steering will follow imperfections in the road surface. It's as if the tyre is sucked into it. Lane one on the motorway is usually the worst as the wagons create grooves in the surface.
#3: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: DRAPER, Location: TamworthPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:46 am ---- arent you only meant to put new tyres on the rear and then move the rear ones to the front when only buying two tires?
arent you only meant to put new tyres on the rear and then move the rear ones to the front when only buying two tires?
Never heard that one before. I don't mind as long as they have even tread wear on both sides of the axle.
Jeff48 wrote:
Hi,I had new Kumho 195-55-15 put on the front of my 2005 1.6 sport and all 4 wheels tracked.
I was wondering where my track rod end was on the rear though. If the receipt says "track all four wheels" I'd be asking for my money back, and taking the big flashing light off my head so they don't see me coming next time.
Hi,I had new Kumho 195-55-15 put on the front of my 2005 1.6 sport and all 4 wheels tracked.
I was wondering where my track rod end was on the rear though. If the receipt says "track all four wheels" I'd be asking for my money back, and taking the big flashing light off my head so they don't see me coming next time.
So you have never heard of 4 wheel alignment then?? This most likely what the OP is talking about.
As for tracking in the groves on the road, called tramlining. This can happen no matter what tyres you have so its nothing really to worry about just be more careful.
#6: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:32 pm ---- Just means you have to steer less, as it does it itself
#7: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: Jeff48, Location: North LincsPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:11 pm ---- It's bloody anoying though,it didn;t do it with the old tyres on?? Getting a guy to chech it over tomorrow.
It's bloody anoying though,it didn;t do it with the old tyres on?? Getting a guy to chech it over tomorrow.
I most likely did but you didnt notice, now that you have new tyres you notice it more
#9: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: Jeff48, Location: North LincsPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:36 pm ---- Just hope i can cure it because i cant live with it as it is!!!
#10: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:45 pm ---- Just learn to drive
#11: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: Jeff48, Location: North LincsPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:38 am ---- Ha Ha,decent car should perform correctly!
#12: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:12 am ---- Did you have TWO new front tyres or one ... one would certainly cause a problem as it has more grip than the other. It's also going to feel different. The pressures are right?
Yes, new tyres go on REAR ... even on a front wheel drive car ... it's better to understeer than oversteer (rear end loses grip)
New tyres also have to be run in ... the gunk they use in the factory to release them from the moulds doesn't all get washed off so they can be a bit slippy at first, especially in the wet.
AFAIK you can't have the rear of a 206 aligned. You can get it checked obviously, but they can't adjust anything. If it's out it's a mechanical issue (worn bushes or bearings, accident damage, etc).
#13: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: Jeff48, Location: North LincsPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:13 am ---- Yes I did fit 2 new front tyres.My garage checked it over,one front tyre had 42psi in it and the other 36psi,after a 10 mile drive home it did seem better...a little worrying though he said my rack end had been severely overheated (I remember the lad heating it up to do the tracking!) he also thinks the nuts have NOT been moved! So was the tracking even adjusted????The rackend could now be a possible MOT faliure! So do NOT use WILCO MOTORSAVE!!!!
#14: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:18 am ---- get a new trackrod end then.
they do seized sometimes
#15: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:06 am ---- i had exactly this problem myself so i understand where you are coming from. it was even worse on uneven country roads and quite scarey tbh.
what solved it for me was 2 new tyres , 2 wishbones , 2 droplinks and a retrack.
not saying you have to do it all , start with the tyres first and take it from there, i only had one knackered wishbone but had both done anyway.
as for the droplinks, they didnt really need doing , but was cheap enough so had them done at the same time.
you will deffo need tracking done after messing about in that area so make sure you finish with that.
hope this helps
#16: Re: Tyre/Steering Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:53 am ---- So you have improved things with adjusting and getting correct tyre pressures. That is a good start I believe yours should be 33psi front and 30psi rear.
Also note that new tyres can, for the first few hundred miles, feel as if the car is on tiptoe - the manufacturers use a releasing agent when the tyres are moulded and the remains of this on the tyre surface means that for the first miles they can feel quite nasty.
You will also find that different manufacturers tyres have different stiffness in their side walls and the manufacturer may recommend a different tyre pressure to what Peugeot do. It may be worth contacting Khumo to see what pressure they recommend.
Now back to tracking. You could pay to have another four wheel alignment but I don't think the rear is adjustable at all so there is little point but if you do have four wheel alignment done all modern machines should give you a printout of both before and after settings. If you do pay for four wheel setting don't accept the setting being "within tolerance" modern machines used by good operators should get the front toe spot on. So perhaps get a new track rod end fitted and get the toe reset.
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