#1: New Trick Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:23 pm ---- so my car has found a new trick (more on that in a min)
for those of you who are unaware, i have a 54reg HDi GTi, it has been mapped up to stage 1 and DPF removed, ever since i have been plagued with the anti pollution fault occuring every 300 miles or so. i have swapped out the boost sensor, and the doser pipe that was split, since then i thought id cracked it. but nope today the fault was flagged again. took the boost sensor off, gave it a clear (with tissue) swug it about a bit to clear the hole in it. reconnected, and 3 re-starts later the fault is clear. so i now know it the sensor getting clogged with oil.
however its new trick,
on the way home from work, it went into limp mode (sluggish accelleration, didnt want to go beyond 2200rpm (when in gear), just as i was rounding the second to last corner from my drive, limp mode dissapearered and plumbs of white smoke appeared out the exhaust, got to my drive and turned the engine off.
called my dad out, turned the car over and it smokes like a chimnley, so my dad seems to think there is a piston ring gone, as the turbo sounds ok (for ok i mean not one that is destroyed inside).
so anyone have any helpful clues, i knew the turbo was struggling but could this be a sign the seals have now failed ????
that is just a guess based on what i have been told.
#2: Re: New Trick Author: Seabook, Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:29 pm ---- white smoke or blue smoke?
what does it smell like?
#3: Re: New Trick Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:40 pm ---- whites water, blues oil and blacks because you have a dirty log burning diesel.
#4: Re: New Trick Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:04 pm ---- white and dont smell right, like a sweetly smell it that makes sense.
heres a vid
that was at idle, from about 15secs after i started the car
#5: Re: New Trick Author: Seabook, Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:11 pm ---- burning coolant then
gasket is my first call but i am not sure if this is common in DV6 as DW10 seldom failed on head gasket
#6: Re: New Trick Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:18 pm ---- ill get it checked over tomorrow, but i just wanted a rough idea of how much it may cost, and thank god i have a warrenty on it
#7: Re: New Trick Author: Seabook, Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:30 pm ---- you might need a new head or do quite a lot of skimming
HDi run very high compression (pressure); if the head gasket blown it will cause a lot of damage to the head.
#8: Re: New Trick Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:37 pm ---- Who is the warranty with?
#9: Re: New Trick Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:21 pm ---- This is what you get for f*****g about with a DV6
#10: Re: New Trick Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:40 pm ---- Head gasket job is usually around £400-£500 as seabook said may need some extra work if is Megga f****d.
#11: Re: New Trick Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:06 pm ---- Yeah my warrenty covers upto £750, and my mate will do the work so probably be abit cheaper than that, the only other thing wrong then is the turbo
#12: Re: New Trick Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:05 pm ---- Warranty won't cover it if they find out you have had it mapped.
#13: Re: New Trick Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:58 am ---- called the aa out as i have home start + roadside + relay (basically everything i can get)
and its the turbo thats gone, so called the warrenty company and the turbo is not covered anyway :(
however found a garrett T15, re-manafactured (with 12 month warrenty from garrett) for £400 on ebay
#14: Re: New Trick Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:05 am ---- You have a warranty on your car that doesn't cover the turbo? if it doesn't cover that it wont cover anything! cancel it and try get some money back to pay for future repairs.
#15: Re: New Trick Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:32 am ----
D4NTP wrote:
You have a warranty on your car that doesn't cover the turbo? if it doesn't cover that it wont cover anything! cancel it and try get some money back to pay for future repairs.
Quite a few of the standard warranties that are given at second hand traders don't cover turbos. Even when they do cover them, they squirm around the excuses like poor maintenance or the wrong oil and will even try the wear and tear route. I've known cars be off the road for weeks and months while the warranty company decide if they should pay out. By the time they have then the customer has usually paid out of their own pocket to get the car repaired and then begins the lengthy process of trying to recover the money.
Personally I wouldn't touch used car warranties as they are not usually worth the money.
Edit. Here is a list of what one of the online companies will cover and the list of optional extras. Basically a con unless you are prepared to pay £££ extra each year. Last edited by macca1411 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:38 am; edited 2 times in total
#16: Re: New Trick Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:33 am ----
Ghosty wrote:
called the aa out as i have home start + roadside + relay (basically everything i can get)
and its the turbo thats gone, so called the warrenty company and the turbo is not covered anyway :(
however found a garrett T15, re-manafactured (with 12 month warrenty from garrett) for £400 on ebay
#17: Re: New Trick Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:56 am ---- i doubt there is one in swindon, but im off to google it now
#18: Re: New Trick Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:06 am ---- Turbo needs to be fitted correctly else it wont last 5 minutes.
Sump has to come of, oil filter in the bango has to be replaced, needs to be run on the correct oil etc etc.
#19: Re: New Trick Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:50 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Turbo needs to be fitted correctly else it wont last 5 minutes.
Sump has to come of, oil filter in the bango has to be replaced, needs to be run on the correct oil etc etc.
True, you can't just bolt it on and drive like normal it has to be 'broken in' so is the head gasket ok? or does it needs turbo and a head gasket job? You could always get your mate to aulter the invoice for your needs to pass onto the warrantee company?
#20: Re: New Trick Author: sicskate, Location: Margate, KentPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:03 pm ----
Ghosty wrote:
i doubt there is one in swindon, but im off to google it now
Try turbo technics or dynamic turbos.
#21: Re: New Trick Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:10 pm ---- turbo technics charge a fortune so as the labor cost too
#22: Re: New Trick Author: Baggiesfan01, Location: Birmingham UKPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:38 pm ---- I work for a Turbo rebuilders in Birmingham we cover most if not all makes and i know we cover peugeot. heres the website.
#23: Re: New Trick Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:58 pm ----
Seabook wrote:
turbo technics charge a fortune so as the labor cost too
Turbo Technics do the job correctly & with a decent warranty.
#24: Re: New Trick Author: nellyhaggis, Location: SheffieldPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:16 pm ---- You sure it's the turbo?
Mine did the same the other day and it was a wire off a sensor on drivers side of the engine inter cooler to inlet manifold area.
It wasn't letting air through and so it was chucking loads of smoke out.
Just a thought that's all.
Also if your going down the route of a new turbo why not spend a bit more and go for a hybrid turbo!
#25: Re: New Trick Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:18 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Seabook wrote:
turbo technics charge a fortune so as the labor cost too
Turbo Technics do the job correctly & with a decent warranty.
no sure if it is worth on a 1.6HDi
#26: Re: New Trick Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:48 pm ----
Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Seabook wrote:
turbo technics charge a fortune so as the labor cost too
Turbo Technics do the job correctly & with a decent warranty.
no sure if it is worth on a 1.6HDi
If your going to repair then might as well do a proper job
#27: Re: New Trick Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:35 am ---- quick update,
it was just the turbo that was gone, car has done 114k so was near its end of life anyway. i have sourced a re-built garret t15 from turborebuild.co.uk for £395 with free postage, they offer a 12 month warrenty, and i called to see if it mattered that i had the engine mapped and dpf removed (he actually said it was the best thing i could of done), and they can tell if the damage to the turbo is from the mapping or from another failure.
they also offer a £50 refund for sending my old turbo.
so as its just the turbo that has gone (oil seals iirc) that is all that would need to be replaced. so it arrives on tuesday, as a matter of course im getting the oil feed pipe changed, as well as a lot of internal cleaning of the inlets, exhaust ect. also going to run it on correct grade cheapo oil till it cleans up, then going to use proper stuff.
i know cheappo oil is not the best idea but not wanbting to pay silly money for oil that will be thrown out and its only function would be to take the remaining carbon out of the system
#28: Re: New Trick Author: Seabook, Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:18 am ---- 26 quid for 5L of oil surely wasn't silly money
and this will ensure your turbo won't blown up again.
#29: Re: New Trick Author: darratt78, Location: SwindonPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:32 am ---- Be good to see another hdi-gti around Swindon mate best of luck! My turbo was changed on 110k (when I bought it) and 4k later is running great! Had to happen sooner or later.
#30: Re: New Trick Author: ARRAN, Location: WiltshirePosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:26 pm ---- Off topic, but where abouts you guys from in Swindon? I'm from Wootton Bassett!
#31: Re: New Trick Author: darratt78, Location: SwindonPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:53 pm ---- I live just off queens drive although moving to gorse hill in a few weeks. Going to fishponds in the morning to pick up a rear axle!
#32: Re: New Trick Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:40 am ---- im in liden, so just near junction 15, im actually thinking of holding a small meet, when i get my car back, it would be good to meet some of you gutys that actually live near me
@darrett78, yeah i seen a few about, most of the hdis are dturbos or sports, only ever seen one other true hdi gti in swindon and that was at swindon motor park, being serviced i think.
@ the others, the turbo is from turbo technics, there rebuild vibration reprot was included with the documentation, along with a whole 2 pages of instructions on how to change the turbo.
#33: Re: New Trick Author: darratt78, Location: SwindonPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:49 am ---- Hi ghosty, are you going to have a go at fitting yourself? Can't be any worse than cleaning the dpf that was a right ballache! I'm living in sn3 aswell at the mo,I'd appreciate your advice on something,pm me if u are around tonight or this week?! it's kinda urgent!
#34: Re: New Trick Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:17 pm ---- no mate im not, i have a mechanic friend doing all the work, plus oil change etc for £150, id rather have it done by someone else, that way if its goes bang i can take it back to him lol
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