#1: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:17 pm ---- This is important to me so anyone who can provide an answer (the more the better) it would be much appreciated.
Some of you will remember I had troubles at getting anywhere near the book time of around 7.5 seconds for a 0-60 run in my GTI 180 with a K&N air panel and Janspeed cat back. Some people have even got lower than this.
Anyway, conceeding and admitting that I must clearly be a crap driver, I tried an alternative - a 60 to 100mph run from third gear, obviously from rolling at 60. Did two runs timed by my other half on a stopwatch, 12.2 seconds and 12.9 seconds (with a full tank of fuel and 3 people in the car).
With the above info, is this normal, quick or a little slow? Or do I definitely have a dud/can't change gears to save my life etc.
Just curious.
Thanks for any input
#2: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:11 pm ----
lee1985 wrote:
Did two runs timed by my other half on a stopwatch, 12.2 seconds and 12.9 seconds (with a full tank of fuel and 3 people in the car).
With the above info, is this normal, quick or a little slow?
Would need additional information like where the passengers were sitting, how much they weighed, the type of fuel used, & is this really a thread for April 1st?
#3: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:18 am ---- It's just that 60-100 stats aren't that easy to find compared to 0-60s, particularly for specific models.
I'm sure others have timed the same especially for track preparation so was a genuine question of course.
What made it sound like it wasn't?!
Super unleaded, 2 in front 1 in back and probably about 40 stone overall because we are fat heffa's lol
#4: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:13 am ---- You are never going to get accurate details with "fat heffa's" in the car as you put it. I'm pretty sure when car makers release figures for the car they don't do it while the car is fully laden. Get rid of pointless weight and it will make a huge difference.
#5: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:30 am ----
lee1985 wrote:
Anyway, conceeding and admitting that I must clearly be a crap driver, I tried an alternative - a 60 to 100mph run from third gear, obviously from rolling at 60. Did two runs timed by my other half on a stopwatch, 12.2 seconds and 12.9 seconds (with a full tank of fuel and 3 people in the car).
Which track did you use for this? Surprised they let passengers go round with you.
You're never going to get book times with a used car that more than likely has been abused during it's lifetime. Take into consideration wear on the engine and gearbox, wheel bearings, air temperature even the type of oil and petrol used. All factors that will adjust the performance of a car.
Put it on a rolling road and see how much power the engine has lost over the years. Out of interest, what were you recording for 0-60 times.
You considered using a live data capture program with drag run capabilities?
#6: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:16 am ---- Even the software version of the engine ecu can affect the performance of the engine.
#7: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:53 am ---- wind speed?
#8: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:30 am ---- You sound like abit of a n00b tbh.
I've never timed either...Although I'd say both my 180's have been capable of better than the factory 7.5 though. Just through experience with different cars at various powers although no actual proof.
IIRC 0-100 is around the same as the Clio 182 17s or so. Unsure on 60-100 and certainly won't be timing it any time soon. I'm not really that bothered as mine seems to go well enough. That 60-100 sounds slow to me though... why on earth if you cared would you go and test +3 up?
Sounds like you've been chaving it around LOL. You're probably tiring out an already tired car... if you feel it's struggling to reach factory performance... what's the milleage and SH like?
#9: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:42 am ----
JamieM wrote:
IIRC 0-100 is around the same as the Clio 182 17s or so.
180gti should be around 17s for 0-100 and 10.5s for 60-100
#10: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:29 pm ---- Jamie I am a noob at the end of the day so your comments don't bother me and as for the times I wasn't taking it 100% seriously it was only on a private road not racing but I've always wanted to know re performance because everyone's cars on here seem so much faster than mine. It's been looked after only one lady owner 38,000 miles never an advisory on an MOT and FSH at main dealer so tbh i'd probably say its in better condition than yours.
Just not as fast. Why? This is what I'm trying to find out.
Yes I know weight doesn't help etc but we can all tell when a car seems slow.
#11: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:37 pm ---- @Seabook thought as much for 0-100 wasn't sure on 60-100.
Well there you go op 10.5 seconds. Try not to cry.. Your car is probably abit out even though you were +3 depending on the conditions / scenario of that 10.5 outcome.
As for your car probably being in better condition than mine meh if you say so, your opinion means nothing to me.
#12: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:49 pm ---- According to www.AutoRoadTests.com the 206 GTi 180 takes 20.6 secs to get to 100mph (7.1 secs to 60mph), ¼ mile in 16.0 secs, 60-80 in 5.0 secs/80-100 in 10.9 secs
#13: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:54 pm ----
lee1985 wrote:
It's been looked after only one lady owner 38,000 miles never an advisory on an MOT and FSH at main dealer so tbh i'd probably say its in better condition than yours.
I find some of this hard to believe with the car looking like this
Might have had one lady owner, but a rotten keeper
I think it may be time for
#14: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:54 pm ---- Macca - I knew the lady. Yes it's not a great looking car but we know not everyone has the same tastes. The outside look of a car shows nothing about how the car has been maintained and serviced, so eat your custard please
Jamie, I wasn't trying to be personal or start a fight, was just defending the idea that you assumed I might be a bit of an idiot with a clapped out car - far from it. I note that many GTIs are high mileage and older models since Peugeot ceased production of them only a few years later.
I have known that my car has not reached the performance acclaimed by other users on this forum since I got the car a few months ago - and to be fair, according to this site www.torquestats.com/in...mph60_100, a stock GTI 180 takes 13 seconds from 60-100mph. I would in fact be very skeptical of any 180 that can do 60-100 in 10 seconds as this is the likes of the Civic Type R, the Clio 182 Cup, the MR2 Turbo, Impreza WRX, Mini Copper S JCW, and the Audi TT 225 - all of which are quicker than the GTI 180 for acceleration in any gear.
I must stress that this is only my view point through studying the performance figures of the above models on more reliable sites such as auto-trader and manufacturer sites where applicable. I would be happy (and would in fact passionately very much like to see) a video clearly showing the speedo of a stock GTI 180 doing 60-100 in 10 seconds flat. Even the Escort RS Cosworth and the Astra VXR can only do it in just a fraction of a second quicker (9.9 and 9.7 seconds).
Regards
#15: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:15 pm ---- i can't find 180gti in your link btw
but anyway i lost interest to this topic
#16: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: 138Andy, Location: NottsPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:38 pm ---- where abouts in the north west dude ill plug it into my laptop and you can take it for a 0-60 & 1/4mile times
#17: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:42 pm ---- Give it a good service. Maybe the one lady owner never used the vvt. It maybe blocked up. Check it has Bosch spark plugs and use high octane fuel.
#18: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: L5_UKS, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:10 pm ----
lee1985 wrote:
Macca - I knew the lady. Yes it's not a great looking car but we know not everyone has the same tastes. The outside look of a car shows nothing about how the car has been maintained and serviced, so eat your custard please
Jamie, I wasn't trying to be personal or start a fight, was just defending the idea that you assumed I might be a bit of an idiot with a clapped out car - far from it. I note that many GTIs are high mileage and older models since Peugeot ceased production of them only a few years later.
I have known that my car has not reached the performance acclaimed by other users on this forum since I got the car a few months ago - and to be fair, according to this site www.torquestats.com/in...mph60_100, a stock GTI 180 takes 13 seconds from 60-100mph. I would in fact be very skeptical of any 180 that can do 60-100 in 10 seconds as this is the likes of the Civic Type R, the Clio 182 Cup, the MR2 Turbo, Impreza WRX, Mini Copper S JCW, and the Audi TT 225 - all of which are quicker than the GTI 180 for acceleration in any gear.
I must stress that this is only my view point through studying the performance figures of the above models on more reliable sites such as auto-trader and manufacturer sites where applicable. I would be happy (and would in fact passionately very much like to see) a video clearly showing the speedo of a stock GTI 180 doing 60-100 in 10 seconds flat. Even the Escort RS Cosworth and the Astra VXR can only do it in just a fraction of a second quicker (9.9 and 9.7 seconds).
Regards
My old 180 p**sed all over a wrx and keeps up with my mates civic so either your not driving it right or your underestimating it.
#19: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:57 am ----
lukesaunders91 wrote:
lee1985 wrote:
Macca - I knew the lady. Yes it's not a great looking car but we know not everyone has the same tastes. The outside look of a car shows nothing about how the car has been maintained and serviced, so eat your custard please
Jamie, I wasn't trying to be personal or start a fight, was just defending the idea that you assumed I might be a bit of an idiot with a clapped out car - far from it. I note that many GTIs are high mileage and older models since Peugeot ceased production of them only a few years later.
I have known that my car has not reached the performance acclaimed by other users on this forum since I got the car a few months ago - and to be fair, according to this site www.torquestats.com/in...mph60_100, a stock GTI 180 takes 13 seconds from 60-100mph. I would in fact be very skeptical of any 180 that can do 60-100 in 10 seconds as this is the likes of the Civic Type R, the Clio 182 Cup, the MR2 Turbo, Impreza WRX, Mini Copper S JCW, and the Audi TT 225 - all of which are quicker than the GTI 180 for acceleration in any gear.
I must stress that this is only my view point through studying the performance figures of the above models on more reliable sites such as auto-trader and manufacturer sites where applicable. I would be happy (and would in fact passionately very much like to see) a video clearly showing the speedo of a stock GTI 180 doing 60-100 in 10 seconds flat. Even the Escort RS Cosworth and the Astra VXR can only do it in just a fraction of a second quicker (9.9 and 9.7 seconds).
Regards
My old 180 p**sed all over a wrx and keeps up with my mates civic so either your not driving it right or your underestimating it.
Agree my old 180 before it was mapped was quicker than 2 of my mums old WRX's and she knows how to drive.
My current 180 isn't that far off my old Dreamscience'd Focus ST RR'D @ 280.3BHP on DS alone due to it not being able to get the power down and being fat. To say 100 it is a car length behind. It would definitely beat a stock ST 100% I also know this because my best mate has a silver Focus ST and he get's p**sed off that a french tin owns him and in the corners and I beat a blue one down a strip road to the motorway before.
I beat the only Type R I played with in my old 180 before map, and used to play every day with a 182 & Astra 2.0T coupe on the way to work through some awesome roads and it was always a different outcome between me and the 182, the gashtra was no where to be seen when the bends came in.
You clearly have a lemon or don't know how to extract the best out of it.
PS remove the dodgy body-kit already, it may have 1 lady owner and lowish mileage but that bodykit lol...
#20: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:20 am ---- I beat an Evo 5 in my 180 this one time, must have been my car with its de-cat and loads of powerzzzzz.
#21: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:47 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
I beat an Evo 5 in my 180 this one time, must have been my car with its de-cat and loads of powerzzzzz.
What tyres were you running? [COLOR="White"]hurhurhur[/COLOR]
Edittttt White text fail gayyyy. Last edited by JamieM on Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:49 am; edited 1 time in total
#22: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:49 am ----
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
I beat an Evo 5 in my 180 this one time, must have been my car with its de-cat and loads of powerzzzzz.
What tyres were you running?
Prada Spec 2's and enough Nos to blow myself up....period!
lol
#23: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:50 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
I beat an Evo 5 in my 180 this one time, must have been my car with its de-cat and loads of powerzzzzz.
What tyres were you running?
Prada Spec 2's.
lol
^^ haha
You is bare quick at replying! I got my edit in while you was hitting that s**t FML lol
#24: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:52 am ----
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
I beat an Evo 5 in my 180 this one time, must have been my car with its de-cat and loads of powerzzzzz.
What tyres were you running?
Prada Spec 2's.
lol
^^ haha
You is bare quick at replying! I got my edit in while you was hitting that s**t FML lol
Well...I am awesomely fast at everything especially sex.
#25: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:58 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
I beat an Evo 5 in my 180 this one time, must have been my car with its de-cat and loads of powerzzzzz.
What tyres were you running?
Prada Spec 2's.
lol
^^ haha
You is bare quick at replying! I got my edit in while you was hitting that s**t FML lol
Well...I am awesomely fast at everything especially sex.
Haha, and racing Evo's.
Having fast sex racing an Evo5 with decatz and paradas... Oeerrrrrr
#26: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:04 am ----
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
I beat an Evo 5 in my 180 this one time, must have been my car with its de-cat and loads of powerzzzzz.
What tyres were you running?
Prada Spec 2's.
lol
^^ haha
You is bare quick at replying! I got my edit in while you was hitting that s**t FML lol
Well...I am awesomely fast at everything especially sex.
Haha, and racing Evo's.
Having fast sex racing an Evo5 with decatz and paradas... Oeerrrrrr
Thats how I roll
#27: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:07 am ----
mattymj wrote:
Give it a good service. Maybe the one lady owner never used the vvt. It maybe blocked up. Check it has Bosch spark plugs and use high octane fuel.
It should have the correct plugs since the dealer has always fitted them.
lee1985 wrote:
only one lady owner 38,000 miles never an advisory on an MOT and FSH at main dealer
#28: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:26 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
I beat an Evo 5 in my 180 this one time, must have been my car with its de-cat and loads of powerzzzzz.
What tyres were you running?
Prada Spec 2's.
lol
^^ haha
You is bare quick at replying! I got my edit in while you was hitting that s**t FML lol
Well...I am awesomely fast at everything especially sex.
Haha, and racing Evo's.
Having fast sex racing an Evo5 with decatz and paradas... Oeerrrrrr
Thats how I roll
Haha, Big_Rich180 is this true?
OP - I have a VVT Solenoid FS £70 posted. ( ;
#29: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:50 am ----
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
I beat an Evo 5 in my 180 this one time, must have been my car with its de-cat and loads of powerzzzzz.
What tyres were you running?
Prada Spec 2's.
lol
^^ haha
You is bare quick at replying! I got my edit in while you was hitting that s**t FML lol
Well...I am awesomely fast at everything especially sex.
Haha, and racing Evo's.
Having fast sex racing an Evo5 with decatz and paradas... Oeerrrrrr
Thats how I roll
Haha, Big_Rich180 is this true?
OP - I have a VVT Solenoid FS £70 posted. ( ;
No...non of it...in fact im not even a person...im a broom.
#30: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:38 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
I beat an Evo 5 in my 180 this one time, must have been my car with its de-cat and loads of powerzzzzz.
What tyres were you running?
Prada Spec 2's.
lol
^^ haha
You is bare quick at replying! I got my edit in while you was hitting that s**t FML lol
Well...I am awesomely fast at everything especially sex.
Haha, and racing Evo's.
Having fast sex racing an Evo5 with decatz and paradas... Oeerrrrrr
Thats how I roll
Haha, Big_Rich180 is this true?
OP - I have a VVT Solenoid FS £70 posted. ( ;
No...non of it...in fact im not even a person...im a broom.
#31: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:30 am ----
lee1985 wrote:
Even the Escort RS Cosworth and the Astra VXR can only do it in just a fraction of a second quicker (9.9 and 9.7 seconds).
You forgot the 1.3 Maxda RX8
& a one lady owner car is not a good thing
Ps, IMO Jamies car looks cleaner than yours for some reason Last edited by E5GDM on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:09 am; edited 1 time in total
#32: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:55 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
lee1985 wrote:
Even the Escort RS Cosworth and the Astra VXR can only do it in just a fraction of a second quicker (9.9 and 9.7 seconds).
You forgot the 1.3 Maxda RX8
& a one lady owner car is not a good thing
Ps, IMO Janies car looks cleaner than yours for some reason
Haha ^^
I think we can safely say this threads dead so I'm going to hit it with some ASW pics to help it on it's way;
#33: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: broadblaster, Location: south coastPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:59 pm ---- if you feel the replys you have got have been unhelpfull please fill in the form and we will try to help.
#34: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:26 pm ---- is the blue smart 206 gti there sellin relevant to this" conversation"?or is it just me?but the names dont match?lee?macca?jamie?whos who here?how does macca have pictures of lee's car?am i showing my age or wot?
#35: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:57 pm ----
bezford wrote:
is the blue smart 206 gti there sellin relevant to this" conversation"?or is it just me?but the names dont match?lee?macca?jamie?whos who here?how does macca have pictures of lee's car?am i showing my age or wot?
You on the cheese or something? lol.
#36: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:00 pm ---- onwith response to my last msg i only had the first page so if you can imagine that msg was at the bottom of the first page it should make more sense....hopefully.............No idea why i only had page 1 and not 2 and 3?????all that gorgonzola maybe?
#37: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:15 pm ----
bezford wrote:
onwith response to my last msg i only had the first page so if you can imagine that msg was at the bottom of the first page it should make more sense....hopefully.............No idea why i only had page 1 and not 2 and 3?????all that gorgonzola maybe?
#38: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:53 pm ---- I'm not really getting into the debate of whose car is cleaner hell you can respray and polish a Ford Capri to look like its out the box so it means nothing to me. Yes Jamie's looks very clean but I have messaged him in the past saying that his car looks better than mine and to ask a few things. I admitted it, he just hasn't mentioned that. A car is a car, I have no hurt feelings and was simply wondering whether the performance of my car is up to scratch, thus this thread.
If my car is a dud? So be it, I can deal with it.
If I'm a crap driver? Sue me.
It is how it is; I was only looking for advice. But, like any forum on the internet there are always those who try to take the p**s, be sarcastic and make things into jokes. Ill be honest, it's a shame really and I can see why 206info is in its decline (so I read). People like me become reluctant to ask questions in the future. We're not all perfect, in fact some of us are complete t***ers. But we would all appreciate constructive advice from time to time.
Go ahead and have a little fun, I really don't mind - I just think its a shame some threads amount to it at the expense of newer members.
Regards
Lee
#39: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:12 pm ----
lee1985 wrote:
It is how it is; I was only looking for advice. But, like any forum on the internet there are always those who try to take the p**s, be sarcastic and make things into jokes. Ill be honest, it's a shame really and I can see why 206info is in its decline (so I read )
Honestly I miss those days very-very dearly.
'Have been seriously thinking of starting some kind of thread that would really get on people's tits and have everyone insulting and taking sides etc.
It seems that there's loads of 1-posters asking for advice, then dissapearing too.
(How about a section for new members with post count under 50?)
It could be called The Sand-pit for eg.
#40: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:33 am ----
lee1985 wrote:
I'm not really getting into the debate of whose car is cleaner hell you can respray and polish a Ford Capri to look like its out the box so it means nothing to me. Yes Jamie's looks very clean but I have messaged him in the past saying that his car looks better than mine and to ask a few things. I admitted it, he just hasn't mentioned that. A car is a car, I have no hurt feelings and was simply wondering whether the performance of my car is up to scratch, thus this thread.
If my car is a dud? So be it, I can deal with it.
If I'm a crap driver? Sue me.
It is how it is; I was only looking for advice. But, like any forum on the internet there are always those who try to take the p**s, be sarcastic and make things into jokes. Ill be honest, it's a shame really and I can see why 206info is in its decline (so I read). People like me become reluctant to ask questions in the future. We're not all perfect, in fact some of us are complete t***ers. But we would all appreciate constructive advice from time to time.
Go ahead and have a little fun, I really don't mind - I just think its a shame some threads amount to it at the expense of newer members.
Regards
Lee
Chill winstannnnnnn
I don't recall you saying that in a message to me, and tbh I really don't care lol I'm just p**sing about because of the nature of the thread. It's only the internet mate y so srs?
Also agree with the post above me, there are alot of n00bs posting a few times and f*****g off. Tbf the place has calmed down alot on n00bs if you had of posted that a few months back your a**e would be raw lol...
Unsure what constructive advice to give you, bar sell the car it doesn't seem to be performing? Since it has FSH ectectect
#41: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:35 pm ---- I'll make do, it was never a car race around anyway so its performance doesn't bother me if I'm to be totally honest. It was just one of those things that makes you think "why does my car seem slower" - but no big deal!
I've attached some updated pics of the car, the last ones were crap and taken by the dealership. The alloys have been sprayed a better colour. I've not got rid of the side skirts and the splitter that people don't like, but the side skirts are staying because it makes the car original. Most of the GTIs on here don't have them, so I will, just to be different. I like them.
The splitter will be replaced with a Cupra R splitter next month. Other than that I have no other plans for the car but just to enjoy owning it until its 40,000 miles turns into 100,000 miles, as I plan on owning it for a good few years.
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#42: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:49 pm ---- Tbh I don't mind the front snow plough that much I don't know why but I kind of like it although it would look better on a car with morrettes like mine as it's more aggressive looking.
Rear and side skirts make me want to eat my fist. If I was in your position, I'd get some stock rears lights remove side skirts as they are horrid and remove rear diffuser. I'd probably keep the front splitter if you want to keep it original as that's the only thing that looks good out of the bits.
Get some better pictures of the front splitter from different angles. Might even be interested in that if it was removed in VVGC.
PS - did you get lucky with the plate or is that your own one?
#43: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: broadblaster, Location: south coastPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:37 pm ---- pretty much as above i could live with the front and possably the rear but no to the side skirts and deffently a big no to the rear lights but hey each to there own.
#44: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:21 pm ---- Thanks Jamie
Yeah last month I was thinking that the rear lights could come off, but I think the PH2 style lights are too plain. They just look red and I'm not sure if they'd match the colour of the car. The chrome look goes well with the blue I thought, kinda like the alloys (chrome/silver colour with the blue). There's nothing else red, but maybe I'm just looking too much into it.
Re the skirts, I was thinking that if I took the sideskirts off then the front splitter would look odd, as it would be lower than the rest of the car? The rear diffuser, I'm not bothered whether it's on or off I guess, just left it for less hassle. What is a diffuser anyway, is there any real advantage of having it on? But yes I was thinking that if I took the diffuser and the side skirts off, without lowering the car wouldn't the splitter make it look a little daft? I'd happily experiment with everyone's suggestions, but as I don't have any mechanical contacts, whatever changes I make have to stand and that's where I sometimes have dilemmas.
Decisions Decisions. The rear diffuser can come off, but I need options with the rear lights, perhaps masked/darker?
One final thing, if at any point I need to have a respray (for example accident damage or vandalism) I was thinking more towards a yellow (kinda like the newer shape Type-R yellow) with black alloys ... what's your view on this? Or maybe Focus ST orange with black alloys? Note this is not in the pipeline and is only if and when the paintwork requires any major emergency action, since the bodywork at the moment is pretty much immaculate (as seen).
#45: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:36 pm ----
lee1985 wrote:
Thanks Jamie
Yeah last month I was thinking that the rear lights could come off, but I think the PH2 style lights are too plain. They just look red and I'm not sure if they'd match the colour of the car. The chrome look goes well with the blue I thought, kinda like the alloys (chrome/silver colour with the blue). There's nothing else red, but maybe I'm just looking too much into it.
Re the skirts, I was thinking that if I took the sideskirts off then the front splitter would look odd, as it would be lower than the rest of the car? The rear diffuser, I'm not bothered whether it's on or off I guess, just left it for less hassle. What is a diffuser anyway, is there any real advantage of having it on? But yes I was thinking that if I took the diffuser and the side skirts off, without lowering the car wouldn't the splitter make it look a little daft? I'd happily experiment with everyone's suggestions, but as I don't have any mechanical contacts, whatever changes I make have to stand and that's where I sometimes have dilemmas.
Decisions Decisions. The rear diffuser can come off, but I need options with the rear lights, perhaps masked/darker?
One final thing, if at any point I need to have a respray (for example accident damage or vandalism) I was thinking more towards a yellow (kinda like the newer shape Type-R yellow) with black alloys ... what's your view on this? Or maybe Focus ST orange with black alloys? Note this is not in the pipeline and is only if and when the paintwork requires any major emergency action, since the bodywork at the moment is pretty much immaculate (as seen).
My car had smoked LED's on before tbh I prefer the fresh OEM look, they do aftermarket OEM looking LED options that might be worth a look for you.
Pic;
Lexus style ones like yours are slated on every single car forum just going to tell you now.
Here's some other decent lights...
Get some more pictures of the car from further away and different angles. side skirts gotta go
Rear diffusers can be performance enhancing, like on the Clio 197's , Focus RS's Ferraris ect. Your one doesn't look aerodynamic enhancing looks just like a cosmetic thing for styling purposes.
As for respray, you somehow seen my forza4 haha... I have a Sundance yellow RC with black Team dynamic PR 1's haha.
#46: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:27 am ---- FK Tuning have some decent lights on offer at the moment.
They have got some sort of promotion where they are dropping prices every week until they either reach 1 Euro or sell out.
#47: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Mounty, Location: United KingdomPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:41 pm ---- A bit late on this one but got to be down to weight.
If 3 of you way 40 stone thats 1/4 of a tonne or 250kg. Full tank 50lts? Another 50kg, so you could be carrying 300kg on a car that weighs just over 1000kg.
Run the fuel right down and chuck the passengers out, will be the most significant performance enhancement apart from nitrous!!
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