#1: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:17 pm ---- This is important to me so anyone who can provide an answer (the more the better) it would be much appreciated.
Some of you will remember I had troubles at getting anywhere near the book time of around 7.5 seconds for a 0-60 run in my GTI 180 with a K&N air panel and Janspeed cat back. Some people have even got lower than this.
Anyway, conceeding and admitting that I must clearly be a crap driver, I tried an alternative - a 60 to 100mph run from third gear, obviously from rolling at 60. Did two runs timed by my other half on a stopwatch, 12.2 seconds and 12.9 seconds (with a full tank of fuel and 3 people in the car).
With the above info, is this normal, quick or a little slow? Or do I definitely have a dud/can't change gears to save my life etc.
Just curious.
Thanks for any input
#2: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:11 pm ----
lee1985 wrote:
Did two runs timed by my other half on a stopwatch, 12.2 seconds and 12.9 seconds (with a full tank of fuel and 3 people in the car).
With the above info, is this normal, quick or a little slow?
Would need additional information like where the passengers were sitting, how much they weighed, the type of fuel used, & is this really a thread for April 1st?
#3: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:18 am ---- It's just that 60-100 stats aren't that easy to find compared to 0-60s, particularly for specific models.
I'm sure others have timed the same especially for track preparation so was a genuine question of course.
What made it sound like it wasn't?!
Super unleaded, 2 in front 1 in back and probably about 40 stone overall because we are fat heffa's lol
#4: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:13 am ---- You are never going to get accurate details with "fat heffa's" in the car as you put it. I'm pretty sure when car makers release figures for the car they don't do it while the car is fully laden. Get rid of pointless weight and it will make a huge difference.
#5: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:30 am ----
lee1985 wrote:
Anyway, conceeding and admitting that I must clearly be a crap driver, I tried an alternative - a 60 to 100mph run from third gear, obviously from rolling at 60. Did two runs timed by my other half on a stopwatch, 12.2 seconds and 12.9 seconds (with a full tank of fuel and 3 people in the car).
Which track did you use for this? Surprised they let passengers go round with you.
You're never going to get book times with a used car that more than likely has been abused during it's lifetime. Take into consideration wear on the engine and gearbox, wheel bearings, air temperature even the type of oil and petrol used. All factors that will adjust the performance of a car.
Put it on a rolling road and see how much power the engine has lost over the years. Out of interest, what were you recording for 0-60 times.
You considered using a live data capture program with drag run capabilities?
#6: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:16 am ---- Even the software version of the engine ecu can affect the performance of the engine.
#7: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:53 am ---- wind speed?
#8: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:30 am ---- You sound like abit of a n00b tbh.
I've never timed either...Although I'd say both my 180's have been capable of better than the factory 7.5 though. Just through experience with different cars at various powers although no actual proof.
IIRC 0-100 is around the same as the Clio 182 17s or so. Unsure on 60-100 and certainly won't be timing it any time soon. I'm not really that bothered as mine seems to go well enough. That 60-100 sounds slow to me though... why on earth if you cared would you go and test +3 up?
Sounds like you've been chaving it around LOL. You're probably tiring out an already tired car... if you feel it's struggling to reach factory performance... what's the milleage and SH like?
#9: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:42 am ----
JamieM wrote:
IIRC 0-100 is around the same as the Clio 182 17s or so.
180gti should be around 17s for 0-100 and 10.5s for 60-100
#10: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:29 pm ---- Jamie I am a noob at the end of the day so your comments don't bother me and as for the times I wasn't taking it 100% seriously it was only on a private road not racing but I've always wanted to know re performance because everyone's cars on here seem so much faster than mine. It's been looked after only one lady owner 38,000 miles never an advisory on an MOT and FSH at main dealer so tbh i'd probably say its in better condition than yours.
Just not as fast. Why? This is what I'm trying to find out.
Yes I know weight doesn't help etc but we can all tell when a car seems slow.
#11: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: JamieM, Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:37 pm ---- @Seabook thought as much for 0-100 wasn't sure on 60-100.
Well there you go op 10.5 seconds. Try not to cry.. Your car is probably abit out even though you were +3 depending on the conditions / scenario of that 10.5 outcome.
As for your car probably being in better condition than mine meh if you say so, your opinion means nothing to me.
#12: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:49 pm ---- According to www.AutoRoadTests.com the 206 GTi 180 takes 20.6 secs to get to 100mph (7.1 secs to 60mph), ΒΌ mile in 16.0 secs, 60-80 in 5.0 secs/80-100 in 10.9 secs
#13: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:54 pm ----
lee1985 wrote:
It's been looked after only one lady owner 38,000 miles never an advisory on an MOT and FSH at main dealer so tbh i'd probably say its in better condition than yours.
I find some of this hard to believe with the car looking like this
Might have had one lady owner, but a rotten keeper
I think it may be time for
#14: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:54 pm ---- Macca - I knew the lady. Yes it's not a great looking car but we know not everyone has the same tastes. The outside look of a car shows nothing about how the car has been maintained and serviced, so eat your custard please
Jamie, I wasn't trying to be personal or start a fight, was just defending the idea that you assumed I might be a bit of an idiot with a clapped out car - far from it. I note that many GTIs are high mileage and older models since Peugeot ceased production of them only a few years later.
I have known that my car has not reached the performance acclaimed by other users on this forum since I got the car a few months ago - and to be fair, according to this site www.torquestats.com/in...mph60_100, a stock GTI 180 takes 13 seconds from 60-100mph. I would in fact be very skeptical of any 180 that can do 60-100 in 10 seconds as this is the likes of the Civic Type R, the Clio 182 Cup, the MR2 Turbo, Impreza WRX, Mini Copper S JCW, and the Audi TT 225 - all of which are quicker than the GTI 180 for acceleration in any gear.
I must stress that this is only my view point through studying the performance figures of the above models on more reliable sites such as auto-trader and manufacturer sites where applicable. I would be happy (and would in fact passionately very much like to see) a video clearly showing the speedo of a stock GTI 180 doing 60-100 in 10 seconds flat. Even the Escort RS Cosworth and the Astra VXR can only do it in just a fraction of a second quicker (9.9 and 9.7 seconds).
Regards
#15: Re: Is this performance "normal"? Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:15 pm ---- i can't find 180gti in your link btw
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