#1: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Tseten, Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:36 am ---- Hello,
I have a problem which I hope you could help me with.
The thin pipe that connects the coolant bottle to the left side of the radiator is leaking at the joint on the radiator end.
Drip, drip drip like a tap - I have to refill with water once/twice a day!
I have had greenflag look at it who said that it is the clip that hold the pipe in place and i need a new one (which is impossible to find)
The garage had it all day and they fitted a new pipe but it still leaked.
They suggested that I could get a £28 radiator repair kit though they are not sure what is included in it and if it will work. They also suggested a new radiator, though again, it depends if a clip is provided or a different way of attaching the pipe...
Even if I remove the clip and push the pipe in by hand, it still drips at the joint...
Do you think it would be feasible to get some plumbers/duct tape and wrap it around the end before inserting it into the radiator, to make the joint tighter?
Options/advice is greatly appreciated! I don't know much about cars...
#2: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:40 am ---- Can't work out if anythings incorrect from the pictures
Yes use some PTFE tape will improve it for sure, may even fix it
#3: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:40 am ---- Is it a new radiator? I think those clips allow the old hose to be attached to the new style radiator.
You've only got part of the clip there... I'll check my stash. By the way, a pack of 3 from the dealer is over £20!
These are similar. A pack has a straight clip and 2 x 90 degree bend clips. Cant see why it would leak though. The part you have just locks it all in place.
#4: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:44 am ---- If its just the clip that needs replacing just go to Halfords & get a jubilee clip, they come on all sizes & cost about £1.
#5: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Tseten, Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:49 am ---- Nope it isn't a new radiator. Hoping not to have to get one as money is very tight this month.
Are those actually what is pushed in the pipe and then you place the plastic end in the radiator? - The mechanic mentioned that it would be great if you could get them. - Do you know what they're called?
The guy in the garage compared the clip to another peugeot he had in for repair and showed me the clip, it was the same, just a fraction bigger. I can't find any anywhere!
Yep it does appear just to lock it in place. Though without it and me holding it firmly in, it still leaks. So I am of teh mind that it isn't just the clip that its the end of the pipe that pushes into the radiator in general - I don't think the seal is good anymore, but why would that change now?
I had a small bump at the traffic lights and 40 minutes later I noticed I was leaking water from the joint. Apart from my bonnet, there was no other damage though.
#6: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:58 am ---- I'm very certain that's not the original radiator. Newer cars from the factory use that radiator with a thinner hose going to it. The hose has a clip like that built into it. Those silly clips allow the use of the old thicker rubber hose like you have fitted. I actually believe it's called a radiator repair kit. It's a rip off for just three adaptors.
You can't use a hose and jubilee clip directly fitted the radiator either. The inlet isn't round.
I'd take it all apart and get some sealant on it. Then put it back together, let it dry and top up the coolant if necessary.
#7: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:09 pm ---- This is the hose that cars fitted with that radiator as standard use.
#8: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Tseten, Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:44 pm ---- Firstly I may try the PTFE tape method, as that's the easiest and quickest, but Edward your knowledge is greatly appreciated! -
- By taking it all apart, what exactly do you mean? - The plastic top of the radiator?
Could I apply sealant to the pipe joint and then insert it into the radiator, when inserted apply some sealant around the outside of the joint, leave to drive and pop the clip back on?
The mechanic did warn me against the repair kit, he wasn't sure what was in it and the rep from peugeot wasn't sure either!
The car was 2nd hand 5 years ago, so its possible they replaced it - just checked and couldn't find any documentation regarding the radiator though.
Oh, lastly, what sealant? (Type)...
Guys, what do you think about either of these as a home repair option:
#9: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:23 pm ---- Just take the hose off the adaptor I.e.the bit with the clip. Remove the adaptor from the radiator and get some sealant on it.make sure its as dry as possible. Just a small amount of sealant is needed. Just get some sealant from halfords.they can recommend what to use.
#10: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Tseten, Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:25 pm ---- Just noticed! - If you look at the first picture of the close up of the joint.
That shiny I think is glue/sealant. There is a white/pink paper bit stuck onto it, which made me think at the time that something was stuck there.
Is it possible that it was already repaired in the past and glued/sealed? - My car bump broke the seal as it only started leaking after the accident!
Thoughts on this would be interesting, also please read the above post if you just skipped to this one.
Thanks again!
EDIT::
Thanks Edward!
You haven't been to my local Halfords LOL! I wouldn't trust them with the simplest advice! Though i will check with them i guess, nothing to lose.
Thinking of going with the Loctite 5922 Flange Sealant : a slow drying, flexible setting paste that changes to a pliable, non-hardening film through solvent evaporation. It seals flanges, fittings, connections and flexible assemblies against leakage and increases the reliability of gasket seals.
It is suitable for valve cover gaskets, oil pan gaskets, threaded connections, cover plates and hose connections.
#11: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Seabook, Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:47 pm ---- unplug the connector and check the seal inside
#12: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Tseten, Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:05 am ---- Halfords recommended that I get Black Silicone Sealant. Multipurpose and according to the box is ideal for sealing glass, electrical connections, water proofing joints and as a replacement gasket.
It forms a tough waterproof seal, stays permanently flexible and withstands extremes of temperature.
Just waiting for the car to cool down and will be trying it in 30 mins!
#13: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: jk206, Location: GainsboroughPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:10 pm ---- have you tried using a jubilee clip?
#14: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:25 pm ---- It's not the rubber hose that's leaking. So a jubiliee clip won't help.
#15: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: iSamTz, Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:05 pm ---- you need some of the stuff we use at work, I believe its called mastic
#16: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Tseten, Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:27 pm ---- BOOM!
I used the sealant from shortly after my last post, around 5.30 i'sh.
Let it dry for 15 minutes and then added water. Drove it for 10 minutes to heat up the engine/allow it to pass through and its been resting ever since.
I STILL have a FULL tank of water!
Woohoo!
The joint is bone dry and can't detect any leak. Will leave it a few days and fingers crossed it doesn't leak, then will take to a garage to have coolant added as now its only water.
Thank you all so much for your help! It is really appreciated!!
Now 4 days after my bump the lady wants her bumper resprayed as she says it has scratches...coming back with a price tomorrow. Fingers crossed its cheep as I have a 250 excess!
#17: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:50 pm ---- If it carries on leaking, have a look at getting a new hose. Just lookes on servicebox and it looks like the clip comes with the hose.
A terrifying £3.65
As for your bump. You won't need to pay anything. You pay the excess for the first part of a claim you make. She can claim whatever she wants and your insurance will pay (within reason). If she has an excess, she will have to pay that herself.
#18: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Tseten, Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:13 pm ---- Strange my garage ordered one from peugeot (new pipe) it came with every apart from the clip, thus it still leaked.
Though personally I don't think it has anything to do with the clip anymore, as holding it by hand still made it leak. Must be something to do with the radiator slot?
But so far its stopped leaking, now facing a hefty bill to repair the silver peugeots bumper that i hit (only the smallest scratch!) I won't be able to afford anything else this month, lucky the sealant worked (so far, fingers crossed) couldn't have outlayed for a new radiator+hose+fitting now...
side note, anyone know a cheap as chips re-sprayer in Manchester that i can refer this women too
EDIT::
Sorry I missed the last part of your message...
my Voluntary excess is £250. So if she claims, would I have to pay that? - I have no compulsory, took the cheapest monthly option. Hope not, can't afford £250 atm.
Garage was going to charge £8.50 for the pipe, as it didn't work, no charge.
#19: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:19 am ----
macca1411 wrote:
If it carries on leaking, have a look at getting a new hose. Just lookes on servicebox and it looks like the clip comes with the hose.
But that wont fit the existing coolant reservoir.
#20: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:36 am ---- Speak to your insurance because the woman was happy there was no damage to begin with they will likely challenge her.shes obdviously spoke to someone and theyve told her to claim but your insurance will probably decline.
Also the point made earllier on here was that u only pay excess if u claim for yourself-for your own car...if she manages to claim on your insurance u dont pay excess for hers just your own but as u aint claiming for your own car u pay nothing.
#21: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Tseten, Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:38 am ---- Yep Thanks guys, just spoke to my insurance company and they confirmed if we chose to go through the insurance I wouldn't have to pay any excess, I would lose 4 years no claim bonus (would have 3 left) and my monthly premium from next june would go up.
Was more worried about the excess than anything, couldn't/wouldn't tell me how much my premium would go up though, just have to wait and see I guess.
Thanks again for everyone's help!
#22: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:16 am ---- did you not have NCB protection?
#23: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:30 am ---- Go to a comparison site and enter your details with 7 yrs NCB and then with 3 yrs and the accident declared. The accident will now be recorded on the CUE database so you will affect your premium for the 5 years or so even if she doesn't claim for the repair.
#24: Re: Leaking Coolant from joint... Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:09 am ---- Considering the price hike it migjt be best to speak to the woman and see if u can pay cash to take it somewhere small to be done cheaply.have u seen the damage to her car?
it might be nothing much.... but an expensive paintshop wont fill it if its scratched as u say they will fit a new bumper and make a big job of wot might need a good t cut or just blowing over a little.go have a look then a word with her mate...
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