#31: Re: Project sleeper Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:27 am ----
Edward wrote:
No idea what the car will be running at...any guesses anybody?
The 138 GTi as standard has 19.5mm torsion bars and a 21mm rear ARB. I have 21mm torsion bars and a 22mm rear ARB.
Cheers, are both these parts off a GTi 180? also are they a straight fit?
#32: Re: Project sleeper Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:39 am ---- I'd probably think the same as Jamie, around 185 ish.
#33: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:49 am ---- So people don't trust the Longmans figures of 190bhp then?
#34: Re: Project sleeper Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:34 am ---- Bear in mind he has a longman's head folks....
#35: Re: Project sleeper Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:42 am ---- 185 is close enough to 190!
I hate predicting figures, it's so hit and miss. Like my own project, could come out at 250, could come out at 275. Who knows!
It's all down to the exact conditions the engine has been under, the stress/strain put on it. And also the condition and production methods of all the parts that are being put on!
It could be miles out.
I'm just giving a rough figure, would be great to get over it yeah, and it most likely will. Just like to play it safe personally
#36: Re: Project sleeper Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:43 am ---- including the cams I'd be guessing in the region of 200. Judging by macj's rally 206 running at 183 with just ITB's mapping and exhaust iirc..+ comparing it to Spike's 206.
#37: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:50 am ---- Good point actually!
#38: Re: Project sleeper Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:31 am ---- The ManiPorn exhaust system is going to be able to work its wonders now as well. Am i right in saying though Tedward that you'd never put it on the rollers? Surely you'll be a little bit more curious now?
#39: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:37 am ---- I was thinking that too Bri, I wouldn't be surprised if this broke the 200bhp barrier...
#40: Re: Project sleeper Author: Guy, Location: Solihull, BirminghamPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:41 am ----
Seb wrote:
185 is close enough to 190!
I hate predicting figures, it's so hit and miss. Like my own project, could come out at 250, could come out at 275. Who knows!
It's all down to the exact conditions the engine has been under, the stress/strain put on it. And also the condition and production methods of all the parts that are being put on!
It could be miles out.
I'm just giving a rough figure, would be great to get over it yeah, and it most likely will. Just like to play it safe personally
I agree you there seb!
Loving that project! Will keep following this
#41: Re: Project sleeper Author: Ross, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:05 am ---- Cracking example, in some ways I wish I had the same sort of dedication to keep a car that long and get it to the sort of level you have. It'll be in another league when the TB's are on!
One thing though... first your username was Teddy, now Edward, and now I find out your name is actually Paul..... confused
#42: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:10 pm ----
Brian wrote:
Am i right in saying though Tedward that you'd never put it on the rollers? Surely you'll be a little bit more curious now?
They just show numbers...it's never had any mapping done and the throttle bodies and cams had always been planned so I never bothered wasting money on remaps etc. Therefore it has never been run on any rollers.
#43: Re: Project sleeper Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:18 pm ---- Predicting fiqures is like trying to guess the lottery numbers, only a few are ever correct
But in my honest opinion i would be guessing 160 mark, sorry to be harsh but i dont want to get your hopes up if i say 180 and you come out with 140
It all really depends on the actually construction of the engine, it could have been a friday afternoon job for all you know...
Example A
Ford main dealers way to constructing an engine
No labeled pistons, bung them in any order and see which fits best
Say the factory document say X one factory could make the fiqure Y while another Z
But anyways
I do like that about your car, simple yet effective
#44: Re: Project sleeper Author: Ruffy_206, Location: BristolPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:23 pm ---- comes with 138 standard would think it would be over 160 mate
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