#1: Like turning the key while the engine is running Author: QuArTz, Location: South CoastPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:37 pm ---- This morning I got in the car and started it and instead of firing up, the starter motor started screaming like the sound it would make if I had turned the key while the engine was running.
I looked under the bonnet started again and the same sound, on the 4th try it started and didn't do it when I left work.
Something else I’ve noticed is the alternator squeals when the car goes through even the smallest puddle, once it’s finished squealing the headlights and blower are much better, I know this means the alternator is wet but could this have anything to do with it?
Thanks
#2: Re: Like turning the key while the engine is running Author: Jeffers, Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:04 pm ---- Possible that the alternator belt is slipping when wet, could need tightening
With the starter motor, possibly a bit sticky, or the teeth are worn. Probably worth replacing sooner or later
#3: Re: Like turning the key while the engine is running Author: ryanovsalford, Location: manchesterPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:05 am ---- like jeffers said sounds like the starters not engaging properly better to just change it for new one
#4: Re: Like turning the key while the engine is running Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:53 am ----
ryanovsalford wrote:
like jeffers said sounds like the starters not engaging properly better to just change it for new one
How about taking it out and cleaning it, then lubricating it instead.
#5: Re: Like turning the key while the engine is running Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:36 am ----
V9977 wrote:
ryanovsalford wrote:
like jeffers said sounds like the starters not engaging properly better to just change it for new one
How about taking it out and cleaning it, then lubricating it instead.
Because the days of proper mechanics and common sense have gone, these days most people are just fitters who replace something that could take 5 minutes with no money spent to fix.
#6: Re: Like turning the key while the engine is running Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:02 am ----
LeeThr wrote:
V9977 wrote:
ryanovsalford wrote:
like jeffers said sounds like the starters not engaging properly better to just change it for new one
How about taking it out and cleaning it, then lubricating it instead.
Because the days of proper mechanics and common sense have gone, these days most people are just fitters who replace something that could take 5 minutes with no money spent to fix.
In this case I would just fit a service / exchange unit instead of trying to repair the original.
Brushes & bearings will be worn, com will want a skim, it's overhaul time for the original.
#7: Re: Like turning the key while the engine is running Author: QuArTz, Location: South CoastPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:14 am ---- Thanks for the reply guys.
My guess was right, the motor needs changing, the motor hasn't made the noise again today but I should change it anyway, just in case.
#8: Re: Like turning the key while the engine is running Author: Jeffers, Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:00 am ---- Bodging AKA greasing up a worn unit is pointless. If the teeth are f****d, applying grease will make it better how ??
By all means get a recon unit or a second hand item. If there are visable signs of wear when you whip it off. There are 3 bolts holing it in.
#9: Re: Like turning the key while the engine is running Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:35 am ----
Jeffers wrote:
Bodging AKA greasing up a worn unit is pointless. If the teeth are f****d, applying grease will make it better how ??
By all means get a recon unit or a second hand item. If there are visable signs of wear when you whip it off. There are 3 bolts holing it in.
Clean, then grease will make 9 out of 10 starters like new without dismantling, replacing brushes or lathing the commutator (overhaul).
The symptom of the engaging cog getting stuck is usually not from the teeth being worn, but it's sliding shaft seizing-up.
Also note on the 206 there is a gap right where it joins to the block/flywheel and you can see the teeth, leaving a big hole for bolts etc to drop inside and dirt/dust to get in.
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