#1: Cambelt Broke 4 valves bent Author: harry206, Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:14 am ---- From the previous thing asking for help of what could be wrong after my car cut out on me my brothers had it in his garage examining it further than when he had a quick look at the roadside..
Hes found that the timing belt is either snapped or something(not 100% sure what he said) but after looking into it hes come accross the damage of the valves, 4 are bent! this was quite scary as i do have my test coming up in 4 weeks and after driving this around for months im so much more comfortable driving this than my instructors car! He told me he couldnt do, which later i found out the b*****d was joking after recieving a quote of around the 8-900 mark, of which would destroy my saved insurance deposit and screw me over big time! Now, coming to ordering the parts, hes listed a few things that i need to get, luckily my dads offered tp buy them to help me out a little, these include, the 4 valves, cambelt kit including the bearing things etc, a new head gasket aswell.. basically im worried about it not being done before my test.. he reckons it will be done by saturday night if the parts are ready for him saturday morning, i know he can do it as its not his first and only last week hes done a similar thing on a bus at his work, anything i should be worried about? or warn him about? and ive read about changing the water pump at the same time? shouldve checked that cambelt hadnt been changed since new, lesson for the future though, cheers guys.
#2: Re: Cambelt Broke 4 valves bent Author: southwestchap, Location: DevonPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:27 am ---- guessing you have a 1.1 206 (looking at your other threads)
hellish easy engine to work on really.
£800-900 is a bit of a rip I would say...
waterpump is really a must once the cambelt is off (sometimes it comes in the cambelt kit?)
Cambelt and tensioner & idler pulley (goes without saying)
headgasket (again...you have the head off so it will need it)
Stretch bolts
possible inlet/exhaust gaskets. (depending on how delicate you are once removed)
Check the other valves (just in case)
Ideally, flush the rad...seeing as the water will be drained.
apart from that....crack on....Good luck
#3: Re: Cambelt Broke 4 valves bent Author: iainlovatt, Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:21 am ---- Right instead of buying all them parts, Go and buy a full engine thats from the same type of car and has had the cambelt done and been well looked after and chuck it in! Afternoon Jobby! Engines are now about £150-300!!
#4: Re: Cambelt Broke 4 valves bent Author: harry206, Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:32 pm ---- [quote="southwestchap"]guessing
Yes buddy:) didnt fancy paying out around the 900 we got quoted as i payed just over a grand for the car itself haha! cheers for the help though, just keen on knowing whats going on and what to order etc, thanks again!
#5: Re: Cambelt Broke 4 valves bent Author: harry206, Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:36 pm ----
iainlovatt wrote:
Right instead of buying all them parts, Go and buy a full engine thats from the same type of car and has had the cambelt done and been well looked after and chuck it in! Afternoon Jobby! Engines are now about £150-300!!
I guess that is a fair point, but for the total cost of the parts my brothers ordered them and comes to a total of 90 pound, hes adamant that he doesnt want anything for doing it as apparently he loves doing everything like this! and i mentioned about another used engine thrown in to him but he said about any problems that the new engine could have, not knowing what its been through etc, cheers
#6: Re: Cambelt Broke 4 valves bent Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:38 pm ----
harry206 wrote:
iainlovatt wrote:
Right instead of buying all them parts, Go and buy a full engine thats from the same type of car and has had the cambelt done and been well looked after and chuck it in! Afternoon Jobby! Engines are now about £150-300!!
I guess that is a fair point, but for the total cost of the parts my brothers ordered them and comes to a total of 90 pound, hes adamant that he doesnt want anything for doing it as apparently he loves doing everything like this! and i mentioned about another used engine thrown in to him but he said about any problems that the new engine could have, not knowing what its been through etc, cheers
Would still be easier to replace the engine, who knows the other damage, I would just buy a new engine, and replace the belt etc. What mileage was your engine on?
#7: Re: Cambelt Broke 4 valves bent Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:39 pm ---- Well I would not recommend doing such a job,because when the timing belt snap off,or when it moves a notch,all the calibration of the engine is diff. and happen exactly what you said,in the worst Scenario some engine parts get broken,anyway You could do one of the 2 jobs:
1-get a new engine head,with all the valves and camshaft,so that you don't hear a ticking sound after working on the damaged one(yours),then fit a new cambelt,water pump,and tensioner.
2-get a new engine as Iain said,get the cambelt replace,water pump,and everything related to it.
Do as @SouthWestChap@,and clean the radiator,to make sure that the coolant flow a good one,and I would add that you need a new thermostat to make sure there is no any future problem about over heat.
Good luck
#8: Re: Cambelt Broke 4 valves bent Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:29 pm ---- I forgot to say that you better buy new bolts for the head bolts,because the old one would be stretched by now
#9: Re: Cambelt Broke 4 valves bent Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:04 pm ---- 1.1 Engines go for no more than £50-£80 on owners clubs and are extremely easy to replace just need a couple of guys and a decent jack. Don't even bother looking into repairing it not worth it in the slightest.
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