#1: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Markco79, Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:14 pm ---- I have the dreaded comm 2000 issue on my 206 gti. The indicator stalk was wobbly when I purchased car and later on inspection was cracked at the base of the stalk. It would wobble back and forth. Indicator would work intermittently. Superglued at base and now indicates. When I stick headlights on they only come on main beam. Can't stick side lights on. Indicators then work intermittently when lights on??
Guessing comm unit is goosed. Peugeot charging £506 for the 6242c6 unit I have. ( I have ESP)
Thinking of buying a second hand unit of eBay or a reconditioned one for £230.
What do I need to do to change myself? Is there not a process for disconnecting battery etc?
#2: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: broadblaster, Location: south coastPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:36 pm ---- euro car parts are ALOT cheaper mate and its easy to swap them over i think there is a how to in the how to section
#3: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Markco79, Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:50 pm ---- Cheers. They only seem to list single stalks (Valeo) I need the whole unit Delphi 6242c6
#4: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: pug206lx, Location: Taking a gearbox off somewherePosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:55 pm ---- I did this yesterday so this is from experience.
First disconnect the battery using the correct method and then wait some time for the airbag system to discharge.
When that's done remove the steering cowling. There's 2 torx screws on the bottom on either edge towards the drivers seat. Undo these, they stay inside the cowling when they're undone. Then simply unclip and remove the cowling.
Remove the air bag. To do this make sure the wheels are pointing straight ahead. Look on the back of the bottom spoke of the steering wheel and you'll see a metal clip in a hole. Get a flat head screwdriver and put it against the clip. You want to push up towards the centre of the steering wheel, it requires a bit of force. After that's done the airbag will pop forward and you can lift it off. Undo the 3 connectors by lifting the tab out and then carefully pulling them off.
Undo the T55 Torx bolt in the middle of the steering wheel by a few turns and then bang on the back of the steering wheel to loosen it. When it moves towards you undo the bolt the rest of the way and lift the steering wheel being careful not to snag the plugs coming off the COM2000 unit.
Next undo the plugs from the back. blue and brown 2 pin one on the edges, a brown one towards the drivers door, a grey one towards the middle and if you have ESP a blue one towards the passenger side.
Undo the clasp from around the com2000 and steering column. Then you need to release 2 tangs, one is on the top to the right and one is underneath, at the back of the com2000 unit. It should then slide off towards you.
To fit the new one, it's really reversal of the removal. The airbag simply pushes back onto the steering wheel. The com2000 can be a bit stiff going back on, but as long as it's lined up right then it will go back on.
#5: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Markco79, Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:03 pm ---- Proper gent. Cheers for that.
Did you have one with ESP? Read about re-calibration being needed.
#6: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Markco79, Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:04 pm ---- Also how long for airbag to discharge?
#7: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: pug206lx, Location: Taking a gearbox off somewherePosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:09 pm ---- I waited about 10 minutes.
My car doesn't have ESP (03 petrol GTI) but the COM2000 unit i fitted is from a GTI HDI 04 that does. It works fine but I'm not sure if it needs reprogramming for the ESP...
#8: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:02 am ---- What is ESP? How do you know if you have it? And how is it calibrated?
#9: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: SWHdi, Location: United KingdomPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:15 am ---- Excellent guide there bud, looks like I'm going to have to do this in the next few weeks myself, so a big thanks from me
#10: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Markco79, Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:17 am ----
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
What is ESP? How do you know if you have it? And how is it calibrated?
It's electronic stability programme. If you have it then you will have a wee button behind handbrake with a fan shaped pic on it
#11: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:47 am ---- Thank you! I changed my comms a while back and don't have the button so that's ok then
#12: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Hawkers, Location: Norwich, United KingdomPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:16 am ----
Markco79 wrote:
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
What is ESP? How do you know if you have it? And how is it calibrated?
It's electronic stability programme. If you have it then you will have a wee button behind handbrake with a fan shaped pic on it
No that symbol is for the alarm sensor deactivation. If you have esp they'll be a button next to the airbag pass switch to turn off esp.
#13: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:40 am ---- Don't have that either
#14: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:27 am ---- 206 with ESP fitted need the steering angle sensor calibration doing after changing the com2000 as the angle sensor is part of the com unit.
Its also a good idea to redo it when having the wheel alignment checked / adjusted.
#15: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:30 am ----
Markco79 wrote:
Cheers. They only seem to list single stalks (Valeo) I need the whole unit Delphi 6242c6
Eurocar parts do sell new Valeo com 2000 units, pop in / ring your local branch but be warned they might have to order it in overnight.
A Valeo com unit will fit & work fine & is a lot better quality, just get the correct part number.
#16: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: pug206lx, Location: Taking a gearbox off somewherePosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:00 pm ----
SWHdi wrote:
Excellent guide there bud, looks like I'm going to have to do this in the next few weeks myself, so a big thanks from me
Glad it helped!
#17: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: donnypaul81, Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:20 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Markco79 wrote:
Cheers. They only seem to list single stalks (Valeo) I need the whole unit Delphi 6242c6
Eurocar parts do sell new Valeo com 2000 units, pop in / ring your local branch but be warned they might have to order it in overnight.
A Valeo com unit will fit & work fine & is a lot better quality, just get the correct part number.
Just wondering what part number mine will be and where on the comms unit will it show the part number ? I have a 2003 2.0 hdi although esp lights up on the clocks there is no button next to the air bag key switch. I have 3 stalks as well but as I have an after market CD player in it doesn't really need the stereo stalk any more. I'm aware the I need to get it set up on pug planet that's not a problem I just need the right comms unit as I'm having to drive with my lights on all the time just so I can indicate and the horn packed in weather or not the horn is at fault or not yet but pug planet came up with comms fault.
#18: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: donnypaul81, Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:22 am ---- Oh any ideas if the same comms unit is fitted in any other car as well which will have the same part number to match a 206 ??
#19: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Markco79, Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:16 am ---- Going to give this a try today as I got a new 6242c6 comms unit off eBay for £125 instead of the £506 the dealers wanted.
What tools do I need for the job? Torx screwdrivers for removing the cowling? What do I need for the removal of the steering wheel? I read a t55 but is it a male or female socket I need?
#20: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:43 am ---- Its a MALE torx bit you need for the steering wheel bolt.
Torx 20 screwdriver for the cowling screws.
Small flat blade terminal screwdriver for the airbag connector locking clips.
Medium flat blade screw driver for the releasing the airbag securing clip via the slot.
8mm or 10mm spanner / socket for the com securing clamp.
#21: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Markco79, Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:12 am ---- Excellent. Thanks for your help. Any idea how long I need to leave the battery to discharge the airbag? Some people saying 3 mins, some 10-15 and some 30 mins.
Not wanting to have an airbag explode on me. What's the risk in that happening?
#22: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:24 am ----
Markco79 wrote:
Excellent. Thanks for your help. Any idea how long I need to leave the battery to discharge the airbag? Some people saying 3 mins, some 10-15 and some 30 mins.
Not wanting to have an airbag explode on me. What's the risk in that happening?
As long as you don't d**k about with the airbag it will be fine, just follow the correct BSI shutdown.
A lot of Peugeot main dealer techs never used to bother disconnecting the battery when they used to change com2000 unit's under warranty.
A friend of mine's record is 12 minutes on a 307 from driving in to workshop to driving back out again.
Only times i've know airbags go off unintentionally apart from dicking about is when people probe the wrong wires on the car OR connect the battery back up with the ignition switched on.
Plus the known issue with the non plexed 206 rotary switch, I've heard of 2 of these so far
#23: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Markco79, Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:36 am ---- Cheers mate.
Bis shutdown is driver window down all electricals off, bonnet up and leave for 15 mins or so then disconnect battery? Once disconnected i can the. Open doors? That right?
I don't have a card with stereo code either so assume I will need recoded after?
#24: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:46 am ----
Markco79 wrote:
I don't have a card with stereo code either so assume I will need recoded after?
Multiplex stereo is VIN security coded, its locked to the BSI unit via the VIN number - it will work perfectly fine once you reboot the BSI unit.
#25: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Markco79, Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:00 am ---- Even better.
#26: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Triggerfish, Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:41 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Its a MALE torx bit you need for the steering wheel bolt
Does anyone know the size of this "bit" to remove the steering wheel bolt?
Assuming they are all the same?
#27: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:01 pm ----
Markco79 wrote:
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
What is ESP? How do you know if you have it? And how is it calibrated?
It's electronic stability programme. If you have it then you will have a wee button behind handbrake with a fan shaped pic on it
Wrong. It's down by the passenger airbag switch. The one your talking about is the alarm sensor switch.
#28: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Markco79, Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:47 am ---- Right chaps. Took the comms unit off this morning ready to replace with one I got on eBay. Mine is the 6242c6 one. Anyway when I got the old one off and compared to the new one hey were different (looks like I have been lied to.
I unclipped the units as the fault is with my indicator switch being snapped at base causing it to wiggle. I swapped over the indicator stalks which were attached with little ribbon connections and clicked back together.re installed unit to car in reverse order.
I now have an "airbag fault" message appearing and also indicator won't self cancel. Apart from that everything works.
Any ideas what has gone wrong? Surely indicator stalks are interchangeable?
#29: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:20 pm ---- Why didn't you just fit a complete com unit?
#30: Re: Replacing comm 2000 unit Author: Pilot1, Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:39 pm ---- Hi how much do i have to strip out to see the 10 digit code that identifys the correct comm unit?
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