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206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm
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#61: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:41 pm
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DREWDEN wrote:
NurseyKay wrote:
The other thing we noticed that may help was an amount of clicking coming from the same part of the engine as the sensor when it wouldn't start..... don't know if that is any help at all???

Just thought, can you confirm, is the engine turning over when you hear clicking, just want to rule out the starter moter.
It has been known for the brushes in the starter motor to stick when the engine gets hot. And then be ok again when cooled down.

Good point.

Also the ICV stepper motor could be clicking if there's a problem with it. (positioned more in the middle and back)
See if you can pin-point a bit more where the clicking is coming from next time it does it.

#62: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:21 pm
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DREWDEN wrote:
quote="NurseyKay"] The other thing we noticed that may help was an amount of clicking coming from the same part of the engine as the sensor when it wouldn't start..... don't know if that is any help at all???

Just thought, can you confirm, is the engine turning over when you hear clicking, just want to rule out the starter moter.
It has been known for the brushes in the starter motor to stick when the engine gets hot. And then be ok again when cooled down.[/quote]

No, this is after trying to start it

#63: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfield PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:02 am
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So basically when you try to start the engine when its hot, the engine is turning over at a fast rate, (meaning battery and starter motor seem ok).

Then when you stop trying, ignition off you can hear a clicking noise. hmmm.

Maybe someone on here might be more wiser what the clicking noise could be.

#64: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: eddie206 PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:55 am
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This poor womans been passed from pillar to post without any real progress...sorry fellas but she has.
Why doesnt someone whos keen to help ask kay where the car is located and go have a look for her because im sure shes probly more confused now than before she first posted.

I hate to add to the confusion but the clicking does sound like the solenoid trying to engage or disengage with the starter motor...but i cant be sure...like the other posts,the best way to help kay will be to actualy have a look at her motor for her seen as shes a nurse and all if shes near me i will gladly have a look...im Darlington area if i can help..

#65: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:06 am
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eddie206 wrote:
This poor womans been passed from pillar to post without any real progress...sorry fellas but she has.
Why doesnt someone whos keen to help ask kay where the car is located and go have a look for her because im sure shes probly more confused now than before she first posted.

I hate to add to the confusion but the clicking does sound like the solenoid trying to engage or disengage with the starter motor...but i cant be sure...like the other posts,the best way to help kay will be to actualy have a look at her motor for her seen as shes a nurse and all if shes near me i will gladly have a look...im Darlington area if i can help..

That would be amazing, I'm in Rushden, Northants

#66: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfield PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:20 am
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Well said eddie 206.
It would be a whole lot easier, if some kind person in her area helped her.

See what the cars doing when you try to start it when engine is hot etc.

My sister and mother are both nurses and i know what a great job they do for people.
Unfortunately i live in Huddersfield, but would have gladly helped.

#67: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:23 am
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Take the car to a qualified electrician, explain the problems in detail and get the codes read from the engine computer (ECU) with diagnostic equipment.

As you say, the vehicle is critical for your work and they are actually very reliable and nice to drive cars 206.

The issue you describe is not easy to track-down and fix through here and you can end-up spending more time and money than simply going to a decent garage who will do the work. It could actually be something really-really simple/cheap once you find-out.

Connector on it's way tomorrow.

#68: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:24 am
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If it helps explain where the clicking is from, say what number it's nearest to.
Although it's not the same engine (can't find one for the 1.6) a general area might help narrow it down.

 

#69: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:35 am
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macca1411 wrote:
If it helps explain where the clicking is from, say what number it's nearest to.
Although it's not the same engine (can't find one for the 1.6) a general area might help narrow it down.

 

2,21,22 ish

#70: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: VorTechS, Location: Gloucestershire, UK PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:44 am
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So about where this orange square is?

 

#71: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: Spalding PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:47 am
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Isn't the starter at the back of the engine?

#72: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:02 am
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VorTechS wrote:
So about where this orange square is?

 

yes that would be it

#73: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:03 am
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V9977 wrote:
Take the car to a qualified electrician, explain the problems in detail and get the codes read from the engine computer (ECU) with diagnostic equipment.

As you say, the vehicle is critical for your work and they are actually very reliable and nice to drive cars 206.

The issue you describe is not easy to track-down and fix through here and you can end-up spending more time and money than simply going to a decent garage who will do the work. It could actually be something really-really simple/cheap once you find-out.

Connector on it's way tomorrow.

Thank you, I am very grateful

#74: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:06 am
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NurseyKay wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Take the car to a qualified electrician, explain the problems in detail and get the codes read from the engine computer (ECU) with diagnostic equipment.

As you say, the vehicle is critical for your work and they are actually very reliable and nice to drive cars 206.

The issue you describe is not easy to track-down and fix through here and you can end-up spending more time and money than simply going to a decent garage who will do the work. It could actually be something really-really simple/cheap once you find-out.

Connector on it's way tomorrow.

Thank you, I am very grateful

No problem Kay.
It will take seconds to fit and will be one less thing to elliminate as possible cause.

Is the starter-motor actualy turning when you try to turn the key or is that when you get just the clicking and nothing happens?

In any case it will need to be looked at by someone with gear by the sounds of it but it shouldn't break the bank.

#75: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: eddie206 PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:09 am
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Anyone near Rushden in Northants able to help out a nursey in distress???
even if youre not the best mechanic you can rely on the others here on 206info to relay the answers to you as long as your more clued up than poor kay you can examine the patient,check the connector plugs,locate the clicking and make some progress for the poor lass...

I will check a map and find out exactly where she is,and what towns are near.



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