#46: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:47 am ----
NurseyKay wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Well it would be worth splicing a new (2nd hand) connector on there anyway incase it has internal bent contacts and that was going to be my next guess, if you want to make sure about that connection being the issue.
It should not affect electrical contact in the mean-time, it would need to be done by a garage but it's a very small job.
See if you get any improvement now with what you did, otherwise might be the gray connector faulty all along or even a completely different issue as I said above.
Thank you, I will see how it behaves tonight when I try and start the car between patients.
OK, good luck.
#47: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay, Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:52 am ----
DREWDEN wrote:
Take the car back to the garage, that replaced your sensor (and use a bit of your charm) and see if he can test the power to the connector, so you can rule that out, if ok, ask him what else it could be.
You never know he might test and rule out other sensors.
The mechanic at the garage seems to be immune to any of my charms sadly! He's also immune to any charm my poor old car might have, as he literally looks the other way when we drive up to his business! I know someone else I could ask to do that though.
#48: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay, Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:58 am ----
V9977 wrote:
Well it would be worth splicing a new (2nd hand) connector on there anyway incase it has internal bent contacts and that was going to be my next guess, if you want to make sure about that connection being the issue.
It should not affect electrical contact in the mean-time, it would need to be done by a garage but it's a very small job.
See if you get any improvement now with what you did, otherwise might be the gray connector faulty all along or even a completely different issue as I said above.
Is it cheaper for the garage to get the part of me to get the part and take it to them - found one that looks right on ebay - don't know for certain if its right...
#49: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:05 am ---- No that's not it.
The garage might well have one in their wires box to simply splice-on.
If the worst comes to worst I'll send you one by post.
In the mean-time, see if you get any difference now and definately shift much later than you do as discussed.
#50: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay, Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:08 am ----
V9977 wrote:
No that's not it.
The garage might well have one in their wires box to simply splice-on.
If the worst comes to worst I'll send you one by post.
In the mean-time, see if you get any difference now and definately shift much later than you do as discussed.
Am very grateful, thank you. Will report back after tonight's shift.
#51: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:11 am ---- NP, Best of luck.
#52: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfieldPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 12:07 pm ---- I detest garages that have attitudes, i see it as their loss in the end, i now use a garage who is honest and genuine, any niggly bits he does for nothing, as he knows he will get my buisness, he even makes me a brew while i am waiting. (yes he is foreign)
Sorry you just got me going when i read your comment.
#53: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay, Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 12:14 pm ----
DREWDEN wrote:
I detest garages that have attitudes, i see it as their loss in the end, i now use a garage who is honest and genuine, any niggly bits he does for nothing, as he knows he will get my buisness, he even makes me a brew while i am waiting. (yes he is foreign)
Sorry you just got me going when i read your comment.
Know what you mean. I even explained to him what I do for a living - Rapid Response nurse for people who are dying, chosen to die at home but are in distress with pain or suchlike, and I swear he rolled his eyes! Don't get me wrong I wasn't asking for a favour, merely trying to explain why the car being reliable, and starting, is so important.
#54: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: eddie206, Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:45 pm ---- Id go elsewhere..this man has a heart of stone...good luck tho.
#55: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay, Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 3:21 pm ----
eddie206 wrote:
Id go elsewhere..this man has a heart of stone...good luck tho.
so much for the good garage scheme eh!
In an interlude in tonight's shift I can confirm it's not yet fixed!
#56: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: kwakzx7r, Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 3:35 pm ---- So, are you saying it always starts if you wiggle this plug on that sensor ? or will it start if you just leave it a minute or two? If its starts every time with a wiggle of this one connector then the problem has to either the plug or the sensor as it seems you have managed to restart the car every time by doing this?
If this is the case then I would suggest replacing either the sensor or connector or both.
#57: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: NurseyKay, Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 3:42 pm ----
kwakzx7r wrote:
So, are you saying it always starts if you wiggle this plug on that sensor ? or will it start if you just leave it a minute or two? If its starts every time with a wiggle of this one connector then the problem has to either the plug or the sensor as it seems you have managed to restart the car every time by doing this?
If this is the case then I would suggest replacing either the sensor or connector or both.
Hi, the sensor was replaced last week, which has stopped the problem where the car was revving by itself. To start the car when it is warm ie already driven somewhere, I have to wiggle the connector onto the sensor and turn the engine over a few times. Without doing this I would have to leave it a few hours, as in it always starts first thing in the morning, or first use of the day.
#58: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: kwakzx7r, Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 4:02 pm ----
NurseyKay wrote:
kwakzx7r wrote:
So, are you saying it always starts if you wiggle this plug on that sensor ? or will it start if you just leave it a minute or two? If its starts every time with a wiggle of this one connector then the problem has to either the plug or the sensor as it seems you have managed to restart the car every time by doing this?
If this is the case then I would suggest replacing either the sensor or connector or both.
Hi, the sensor was replaced last week, which has stopped the problem where the car was revving by itself. To start the car when it is warm ie already driven somewhere, I have to wiggle the connector onto the sensor and turn the engine over a few times. Without doing this I would have to leave it a few hours, as in it always starts first thing in the morning, or first use of the day.
Then the next logical step has to be replacing the connector seeing as wiggling the connector gets the car running again
So, are you saying it always starts if you wiggle this plug on that sensor ? or will it start if you just leave it a minute or two? If its starts every time with a wiggle of this one connector then the problem has to either the plug or the sensor as it seems you have managed to restart the car every time by doing this?
If this is the case then I would suggest replacing either the sensor or connector or both.
Hi, the sensor was replaced last week, which has stopped the problem where the car was revving by itself. To start the car when it is warm ie already driven somewhere, I have to wiggle the connector onto the sensor and turn the engine over a few times. Without doing this I would have to leave it a few hours, as in it always starts first thing in the morning, or first use of the day.
Then the next logical step has to be replacing the connector seeing as wiggling the connector gets the car running again
Yes, it's worth a go but still not 100% definately it.
I can certainly send you a connector which is OK, just PM me (Private Message) the address where you want it sent.
#60: Re: 206 1.6 GLX 1999 won't start from warm Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfieldPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:30 pm ---- quote="NurseyKay"] The other thing we noticed that may help was an amount of clicking coming from the same part of the engine as the sensor when it wouldn't start..... don't know if that is any help at all???[/quote]
Just thought, can you confirm, is the engine turning over when you hear clicking, just want to rule out the starter moter.
It has been known for the brushes in the starter motor to stick when the engine gets hot. And then be ok again when cooled down.
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