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#1: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:49 am
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Wheels balanced 2x now all over

two new anti roll bar links done

Tracking is out could it be this?

Only shakes now and again when i go faster you can sort of feel it but there no wobble its like a dun dun dun hard to explain.

Cheers

#2: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:02 am
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Driveshafts?

#3: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:05 am
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How would i check them?

cheers

#4: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: kwakzx7r PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:18 am
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Have you ever curbed it? or previous owner.Check the side walls for bulges and use your fingers if you have to, as like mine they were hard to detect by eye

#5: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:21 am
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kwakzx7r wrote:
Have you ever curbed it? or previous owner.Check the side walls for bulges and use your fingers if you have to, as like mine they were hard to detect by eye

Side walls are all good they are coming to the limit on tread tho.

cheers

#6: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:22 am
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Have you got the same tread pattern on both tyres?
Are the tyres marked with a rotation arrow, and if so is it pointing the right way?

#7: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Uz, Location: No Man's Land PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:24 am
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Its that s**t spacer setup your running thats causing it.

#8: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:24 am
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Uz wrote:
Its that s**t spacer setup your running thats causing it.

What one 20MM wow

#9: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Uz, Location: No Man's Land PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:26 am
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Zack wrote:
Uz wrote:
Its that s**t spacer setup your running thats causing it.

What one 20MM wow

no. the spacer setup that you drew on some thread. 20mm bolted to another 20mm spacer. But if youve changed it than your bearings are fooked..!

#10: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:29 am
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That drawing was the rear and thats been sorted now.

On the front has always been 20MM plus there is no play in the wheel

#11: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Uz, Location: No Man's Land PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:42 am
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V9977 wrote:
Driveshafts?

How are driveshafts going to cause wheel wobble..? :S

Zack, check your discs..? might be warped.

#12: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:46 am
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Uz wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Driveshafts?

How are driveshafts going to cause wheel wobble..? :S

Zack, check your discs..? might be warped.

Ill have a look tomorrow jack car up put it in gear take wheel off tho yea?

Cheers

#13: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Uz, Location: No Man's Land PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:47 am
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Zack wrote:
Uz wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Driveshafts?

How are driveshafts going to cause wheel wobble..? :S

Zack, check your discs..? might be warped.

Ill have a look tomorrow jack car up put it in gear take wheel off tho yea?

Cheers

Just jack it up, no need to put it in gear, take wheel off, turn the wheel do the calipers pointing inward and spin the disc so you can see the edge and check if there's and side to side movement.

#14: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:50 am
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Uz wrote:
Zack wrote:
Uz wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Driveshafts?

How are driveshafts going to cause wheel wobble..? :S

Zack, check your discs..? might be warped.

Ill have a look tomorrow jack car up put it in gear take wheel off tho yea?

Cheers

Just jack it up, no need to put it in gear, take wheel off, turn the wheel do the calipers pointing inward and spin the disc so you can see the edge and check if there's and side to side movement.

Ok thanks Smile could it be control arms if not that?

cheers

#15: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Uz, Location: No Man's Land PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:53 am
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Zack wrote:
Uz wrote:
Zack wrote:
Uz wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Driveshafts?

How are driveshafts going to cause wheel wobble..? :S

Zack, check your discs..? might be warped.

Ill have a look tomorrow jack car up put it in gear take wheel off tho yea?

Cheers

Just jack it up, no need to put it in gear, take wheel off, turn the wheel do the calipers pointing inward and spin the disc so you can see the edge and check if there's and side to side movement.

Ok thanks Smile could it be control arms if not that?

cheers

Na wouldn't cause wheel wobble. Have you checked the bolts are all done up correct lengths etc. I've had problems in the past with after market wheels and spacers where bolts have been a tad to long, you think you've tightened them up but it's that tiny bit thats causing you to have wheel wobble.

#16: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:00 am
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Uz wrote:
Zack wrote:
Uz wrote:
Zack wrote:
Uz wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Driveshafts?

How are driveshafts going to cause wheel wobble..? :S

Zack, check your discs..? might be warped.

Ill have a look tomorrow jack car up put it in gear take wheel off tho yea?

Cheers

Just jack it up, no need to put it in gear, take wheel off, turn the wheel do the calipers pointing inward and spin the disc so you can see the edge and check if there's and side to side movement.

Ok thanks Smile could it be control arms if not that?

cheers

Na wouldn't cause wheel wobble. Have you checked the bolts are all done up correct lengths etc. I've had problems in the past with after market wheels and spacers where bolts have been a tad to long, you think you've tightened them up but it's that tiny bit thats causing you to have wheel wobble.

Ok well ill have everything off tomorrow wheel and spacers check then discs and clean everything thank you Smile

#17: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: RedHDI, Location: Northern Ireland PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:11 am
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im having the exact same problem. Getting my tracking done later so i will let you know for sure

#18: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:13 am
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RedHDI wrote:
im having the exact same problem. Getting my tracking done later so i will let you know for sure

you going for just the fronts tracking or all over?

Cheers

#19: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: RedHDI, Location: Northern Ireland PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:17 am
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Just the front. My cars drum brakes at the rear so I dont need them done do I?

#20: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:44 am
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Just to clarify, is this an actual visible wobble on the wheel or just something you can feel through the steering wheel, like a vibration?

#21: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:49 am
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macca1411 wrote:
Just to clarify, is this an actual visible wobble on the wheel or just something you can feel through the steering wheel, like a vibration?

See the wheel wobble y?

cheers

#22: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:00 am
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If you can see it, then something is either loose or bent. Narrows the possible causes down.

#23: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:05 am
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When I say wheel i mean steering wheel.

#24: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:07 am
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Uz wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Driveshafts?

How are driveshafts going to cause wheel wobble..? :S

Zack, check your discs..? might be warped.


Like this:


Zack wrote:
Wheels balanced 2x now all over

two new anti roll bar links done

Tracking is out could it be this?

Only shakes now and again when i go faster you can sort of feel it but there no wobble its like a dun dun dun hard to explain.

Cheers

Zack wrote:
When I say wheel i mean steering wheel.

#25: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: 14hdi PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:30 am
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The drive shafts could be the cause as when people replace the boot they use a huge hose clip which sends it off balance due to the big lump on one side. If it does have hose clips put a proper drive shaft boot tie on or stainless cable tie, a regular cable tie should do it if you haven't got any metal ones.

#26: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: RedHDI, Location: Northern Ireland PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:38 pm
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Getting tracking done tomorrow zack as the car was too low to go on the ramp

#27: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:39 pm
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Ok keep me updated please

#28: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:45 am
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RedHDI wrote:
Getting tracking done tomorrow zack as the car was too low to go on the ramp

How did you get on?

Cheers

#29: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Sim, Location: West Country PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:13 am
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Had this problem, after suspecting out-of-balance wheels / warped brake disk / wheel bearing, this forum helped to identify the cause: it was a buckled/warped wheel hub (the symptom was: strong steering wheel vibration when braking at high speeds).

You could see the wheel wobble:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yiQ0U50WdU

And the brake disk wobbles too (see gap between brake pads and disk):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=78sQBUto1JM

Problem gone once new wheel hub fitted:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S-xvrkgifE


Hope this helps in your tests

#30: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:32 pm
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Thanks for this should I change discs aswell then?

Cheers

#31: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Sim, Location: West Country PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:23 pm
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First run the tests, before starting throwing any money in changing parts at random

#32: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Zack, Location: Northamptonshire PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:55 pm
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Ok thank you so much for the videos

#33: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Sim, Location: West Country PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:02 pm
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No probs mate, I know how you feel Smile
I wanted to change the world to bring my car roadworthy/comfy to drive asap Smile But inspecting and ruling out causes does save money and nerves (takes more time though, than just dropping off at the garage)

#34: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: novatron1_2, Location: fife PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:09 am
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sledge wrote:
Had this problem, after suspecting out-of-balance wheels / warped brake disk / wheel bearing, this forum helped to identify the cause: it was a buckled/warped wheel hub (the symptom was: strong steering wheel vibration when braking at high speeds).

You could see the wheel wobble:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yiQ0U50WdU

And the brake disk wobbles too (see gap between brake pads and disk):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=78sQBUto1JM

Problem gone once new wheel hub fitted:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S-xvrkgifE


Hope this helps in your tests

I had exactly the same problem, initially thought it was the discs but when I fitted the new ones and checked for run out it was still there. So I took them off and checked the run out of the hub, it was awful. I've never had a car before when the hub has buckled. A new ( £10 scrappy) hub solved it all.

#35: Re: Wheel Wobble Author: Sim, Location: West Country PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:12 am
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I tried new brake disks but did not have the dial indicator..

So the car with new brake disks does not shake for couple of weeks, until they go out of balance! That's how the previous owner sold me the car... and it cost cheap



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