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1.4 hdi very noisy with video
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#1: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: bikesforme PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:54 am
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I think this might be hydrolic tappets, flushed engine out a few times new filters put hydrolic noise treatment in but still no joy.

#2: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:01 am
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Sounds more like a dodgy injector seal, very common on the crappy DV4 engine Wink

#3: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: bikesforme PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:10 am
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MrBSI wrote:
Sounds more like a dodgy injector seal, very common on the crappy DV4 engine Wink
Does sound like a tapping blowing noise, its my partners car, changing the injector seals might be worth a try. Put the link up hoping someone has had the same problem, thanks for reply, and more views. Thanks

#4: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfield PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:22 am
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Throw a bit of water around the injectors, if you see bubbles, then seals gone, obviously engine running.

#5: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: cosmicdance, Location: Leeds, UK PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:58 am
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MrBSI wrote:
Sounds more like a dodgy injector seal, very common on the crappy DV4 engine Wink

My 1.4 HDI has done 145,000 miles with no problems on the injectors so obvious the engines aren't that crappy.
Engaging the brain before making useless, childish comments on here is far more constructive.

Andy

#6: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: bikesforme PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:26 pm
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My mrs loves the car, and its so cheap to run and the mpg is amazing. It might be alittle slugish compared to the petrol engine, but she can double my mpg on my 1.4 petrol 206 with cheap tax too.
It sounds like its coming from under the air filter, so will find out where injectors are and see if they are leaking.

#7: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray Leicestershire PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:36 pm
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As above sounds like the injector seals, will be worth checking the condition of the fuel pipes under the air box aswell whilst your at it for chaffing, sometimes removing these to gain access to the injectors is enough to finally cause a pin p***k hole which will cause starting troubles without hand priming it every morning.

Again whilst your at it will be worth getting new leak of pipes and seals as often when removing them the plastic cracks. Be prepaired you will need to clean off all the carbon thats built up from it blowing in order to fit the new seals successfully.

Parts needed:

Injector seals
Injector plastic collars
Injector leak of pipe set
Rocker cover gasket ( for the sake of £7.50 you may as well replace)

#8: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: bikesforme PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:42 pm
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richpowell91 wrote:
As above sounds like the injector seals, will be worth checking the condition of the fuel pipes under the air box aswell whilst your at it for chaffing, sometimes removing these to gain access to the injectors is enough to finally cause a pin p***k hole which will cause starting troubles without hand priming it every morning.

Again whilst your at it will be worth getting new leak of pipes and seals as often when removing them the plastic cracks. Be prepaired you will need to clean off all the carbon thats built up from it blowing in order to fit the new seals successfully.

Parts needed:

Injector seals
Injector plastic collars
Injector leak of pipe set
Rocker cover gasket ( for the sake of £7.50 you may as well replace)
Very Happy Many thanks

#9: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: 14hdi PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:41 pm
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Listening to that is certainly an injector chuf in the early stages.

#10: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: HDI90, Location: sunny stoke PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:53 am
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205k on my 1.4 hdi van only thing its needed was a new clutch , so obv not that crappy

#11: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: bikesforme PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:06 am
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14hdi wrote:
Listening to that is certainly an injector chuf in the early stages.
Many thanks, might be a cheap fix then which will please the mrs. Very Happy

#12: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: 14hdi PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:51 am
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Depending on how bad it is you can just change the seal. If its been like it for a long time it can damage the metal of the injector seat/head. Then you'll have re cut the seat and use a thicker washer.

P.S its a fairly big job until you can even see the injectors.
Air box
Turbo pipes
Fuel filter housing
Cam belt covers
EGR
Then inlet manifold/rocker cover comes up in one big lump.

Done this before on mine. Iv got fairly small hands so it only took about 2 hours to take apart.

#13: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: bikesforme PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:13 pm
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Ordered the seals , someone said spray water around them to see which one is leaking.If u have to take so much off to even see them, i don't see how u can run the car to do this.

#14: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: 14hdi PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:19 pm
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When it sounds like that you'll see the tar build up around it. Are you replacing all the seals?
I would leave the ones that don't leak.

When removing the tar I used meths and did it when it was warm.

Only ever done an injector on a 2.0hdi so its very very easy to get to the injectors.

#15: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfield PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:36 pm
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14hdi wrote:
When it sounds like that you'll see the tar build up around it. Are you replacing all the seals?
I would leave the ones that don't leak.

When removing the tar I used meths and did it when it was warm.

Only ever done an injector on a 2.0hdi so its very very easy to get to the injectors.

What is the tar that builds up.

#16: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: bikesforme PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:31 am
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Ordered deal kit for all 4 , the plan was to just the place the ones that need doing. If there is no signs of leaking i will just replace all 4.

#17: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: 14hdi PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:35 am
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Not really sure, is a black tar that builds up around the leak.

#18: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: bikesforme PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:42 pm
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Got it all done today , its a pig of a job to do and cleaning all the back carbon off. The one that was leaking was well seized in, and replaced seals in all 4.
On putting it all back i could not get the back of the rocker cover to sit low enough for the 2 rear bolts; so just used the top 8 bolts.
Car runs better now and only sounds like a taxi now.lol

#19: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: eddie206 PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:19 pm
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Success...but i would try checkin the tightness of all your ancillarys and piping because on your vid the front two pipes in front of the engine seemed to move around a lot and so might be others..all createing extra noises around the engine...

#20: Re: 1.4 hdi very noisy with video Author: bikesforme PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:08 am
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eddie206 wrote:
Success...but i would try checkin the tightness of all your ancillarys and piping because on your vid the front two pipes in front of the engine seemed to move around a lot and so might be others..all createing extra noises around the engine...
Think its just the rattle nature of the 1.4 hdi engine.



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