#1: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: HDI90, Location: sunny stokePosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:26 pm ---- As my gti 180 i got has been running bad since the day i got it and ive had everything now replced on the car i decided to take it to main dealer for there advice
The car has been running lumpy and causing a misfire when the car is cold but for the first 2-3 mins its fine then i get all sorts of errors on dash
So taken it to main dealer and they said its a common fault on the EW10 2.0 engines have the cold start misfire on some of these 206 models and is caused by the hydraulic tappets "jacking up" and not allowing the inlet/exhaust vales to seat properly and thus cause a running issue
He also said that he could not tell what one is worn too its striped down
I could do this myself as i have all the timing tools to do the floating crank just dont fancy replacing all 16 lifter as the cost will be huge
So has anyone heard of this story before?
#2: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:32 pm ---- Personally no, but then I have seen it before on a 307. Engine oil flush it, and new oil to try and fix the sticking tappet.
Then try a compression check in fault/when cold to find which one
#3: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: HDI90, Location: sunny stokePosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:59 pm ---- Suppose its worth a try. from what ive seen on the net its more common in a 307.
I know its had a service about 500 miles ago but the oil used was 0-30 according to the service book, could this be why as ive sure its inncorrect oil
#4: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: peugeotgti, Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:26 am ---- Its probably worth doing a bsi reboot and check your battery also...the lumpyness could be low output power on battery and the all sorts of errors on the dash could well be a weak battery and needing a bsi soft reboot..
The instructions for the bsi reboot will be on here in the HOW TO FORUM...
Oil should be 5w/40 fully synthetic and the very best that you can afford..
#5: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:22 am ---- When I fitted the new head to mine it did the misfire on cold start. Cleared after a couple of hundred yards. The only mechanical thing that could cause the problem was the lifters. They aren't cheap...a compression test would probably highlight where the problem lies.
I believe the lifters can be stripped down and rebuilt but I've never managed to get them apart.
#6: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: HDI90, Location: sunny stokePosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:41 am ---- Edward your problem sounds like mine, I need to do a compression test from cold to find were the drop may be
What in PSI should a 180 be, is it best to do a test with throttle open or closed?
#7: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:52 am ---- I wouldn't worry about PSI. Just see which one is lower than the others.
#8: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: HDI90, Location: sunny stokePosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:50 am ---- Ok will post results up later on . thanks
#9: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:02 pm ---- Any luck?
#10: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:20 pm ---- Compression test with throttle wide open.
After first compression test add a small squirt or couple of teaspoons of oil into the cylinder and test again. A largish improvement on any low reading cylinder will suggest ring / bore wear but a relatively unchanged reading on a low cylinder will suggest valves or head gasket.
#11: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:25 am ---- Why do people go into "replace this" mode without doing some of the basic (perhaps now considered old fashioned) things like checking plug colours and a dry/wet compression test.
Despite all the modern engine management systems these are still essential and excellent fault finding tests and free.
Look at how this thread starts:-
"I've had everything now replaced"
Yet they haven't had a compression test or plug colour comparison done. Well plug colour check isn't mentioned but I bet it hasn't been done!
Why don't people include these checks before spending money? Beats me!
#12: Re: main dealer fobbing me off or not? Author: paulspug, Location: Spalding lincolnshirePosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:57 am ---- Just take it out and give it a damned good thrashing
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