#1: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:34 pm ---- Hello Everyone,
Last Week I hit my car, Passenger side wing, Was going about 20mph, Don't think it was any faster, and since Air Bag light has appeared, No air bags have been deployed tho. Garage has repaired my car but Air bag light is still on. Since Hitting the car Passenger seat belt kinda locks when someone pulls it to belt them self in. on the day I crashed someone was sitting in the passenger seat with belt on. I think it locks up where that person moved forward with the force of impact. Do I just need to replace the seat Belt reel and then get mechanic to reset the air bag? I'm Planning on selling this car and I don't want to sell it with faults.
Any Help Would be brill.
thanks
#2: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: iainlovatt, Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:16 am ---- you need to plug it into peugeot planet. That would tell you exactly the faults.
In this case its a safe bet that they need replacing.
#3: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:20 am ----
iainlovatt wrote:
you need to plug it into peugeot planet. That would tell you exactly the faults.
In this case its a safe bet that they need replacing.
Should there be like a sensor or something on the seat belt reel?
My dad is breaking a 1.9diesel or 1.6, can I replace it with one of them?
Also my father has the snapon diagnostic computer thingy, will this do what Peugeot planet does?
Thanks
#4: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:41 am ----
Achillez wrote:
Should there be like a sensor or something on the seat belt reel? My dad is breaking a 1.9diesel or 1.6, can I replace it with one of them?
If same part number. You don't mention the years of the cars as they change around 2002 from pre-mux to mux so very different wiring systems.
Achillez wrote:
Also my father has the snapon diagnostic computer thingy, will this do what Peugeot planet does?
It is a generic code reader but whether it reads the airbag system is another matter ... some do, some don't.
#5: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:49 am ---- Ok, thanks. Hopefully change seat belt reel then reset all gone.
#6: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:23 pm ---- If in fact it is the same as mine mux, will it matter if the part numbers don't match? I mean if the seat belt looks exactly like mine but parts numbers different will it still work?
Thanks
#7: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:13 pm ---- Just plugged the other seat belt reel, plugged in the snap on machine and couldn't clear codes - came up with a fault. it says pretension-er fault. it also says Passenger pretension-er present even when plugged in or not. it shows steering column airbag absent ( Even tho this did not fire off ).
Came up as pretensioner fired ( P10A0 ) can't find any info on that code
Anyone got any ideas ? also does anyone know where the airbag main unit is hidden? I might need to replace that.
Cheers
#8: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:07 am ---- As said by previous posters, you'd be better off using PP2000 to diagnose the fault.
The airbag ECU is located under the ashtray in the centre console. If you get a second hand one you may get lucky and it will be plug and play, failing that you'll need to connect to PP2000 to activate/deactivate various functions on the ECU.
#9: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:32 pm ---- Just an update, pp2000 didn't have the function Airbag Crash data reset srs.
Faults it did find was:
Airbag ECU: Permanent fault, seat belt deployment
Airbag ECU: Remote intermittent fault. Vehicle speed information ( not sure what this is )
Tried to reset the faults and came up with no parameter available.
Does anyone know any software to reset airbag crash data? I have carprog - not tried this yet tho
Thanks
#10: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:33 am ---- Don't think you can reset the crash data as otherwise unscrupulous sellers would be selling cars with this reset and the safety system not working correctly.
Cheapest thing to do is find a car being broken that is the same spec as yours and try the ECU out of that. Not sure if they are plug and play, but if not, you already have access to PP2000 so shouldn't be a problem setting it up. If you can't check the ECU in the donor car, get a guarantee from the seller that if there is crash data stored on it, then you can get a refund.
#11: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:43 am ----
Achillez wrote:
Just an update, pp2000 didn't have the function Airbag Crash data reset srs.
We could have told you that if you had asked.
#12: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:10 am ----
macca1411 wrote:
Don't think you can reset the crash data as otherwise unscrupulous sellers would be selling cars with this reset and the safety system not working correctly.
Cheapest thing to do is find a car being broken that is the same spec as yours and try the ECU out of that. Not sure if they are plug and play, but if not, you already have access to PP2000 so shouldn't be a problem setting it up. If you can't check the ECU in the donor car, get a guarantee from the seller that if there is crash data stored on it, then you can get a refund.
Airbag crash data has been reset - used carprog, once I reset that, plugged the unit back in the car, used pp2000 to clear the codes and all gone. If there was a problem with the airbag system, the lights would appear again. etc if I still had the pretension-er that had been deployed plugged in, the airbag light would keep appearing, So I don't think people can get away with selling cars with airbags not functioning, unless they remove the airbag bulb. Last edited by Achillez on Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:13 am; edited 1 time in total
#13: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:10 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Achillez wrote:
Just an update, pp2000 didn't have the function Airbag Crash data reset srs.
We could have told you that if you had asked.
Problem was, I didn't even know about data crash stored onto airbag ecu until yesterday morning.
#14: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:15 pm ---- After a few days airbag light has appeared again but this time it isn't reading any faults, tryed pp2000 and snapon. None reading any airbag fault. Anyone had this issue?
Thanks
#15: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:18 pm ---- Peugeot Planet should be able to read it.
Maybe erasing the crash data wasn't such a good idea after all
#16: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:38 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Peugeot Planet should be able to read it.
Maybe erasing the crash data wasn't such a good idea after all
Guess your right... Suppose didn't cost me anything, just very strange nothing reads the codes. I did think the pre tensioner I replaced the faulty one with was incorrect one but surely this should bring up a fault code. I read somewhere that the belt stalk had to be replaced as well but I can't see anything connected to this.
Completely out of ideas, I'd like to sell this car but completely against selling it with airbag light on, will put insurance on it tomorrow drive it for a week and if they don't disappear its going to the scrap.
#17: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Achillez, Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:49 pm ---- just an update, I can disable all airbags, pre tensioners except for 2 level passenger airbag ( what exactly is this? and where is it located? )
#18: Re: Air Bag Light - Question Author: Paul76, Location: AndoverPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:48 am ---- Have experience with smashed Peugeot 206's. I'm certain you'll have to take the airbag Ecu out and send it off to get the crash data removed. Estimated cost: £30.00 just search EBay for services.
Or phone Peugeot and they'll bill you for a brand new ecu and fitting. Estimated cost: £600.00!
You can also swap the airbag ecu out of another car. The numbers have to match exactly though. I have a Ecu knocking about. Let me know what serial number you've got on yours. Maybe they'll match. There is a number on the front of the ecu.
Also, getting a replacement ecu from a breakers doesn't guarantee nothing. The one you buy might have been removed from another smashed car.
Also I tried using snap on diagnostic when I had airbag light being displayed on a 206 after accident. Snap on and planet/diagbox couldn't even read a code. There was a airbag light with no codes. If you have this symptom, then you definitely need to remove your ecu and send it away.
You'll to replace pre tensioner and getter crash data removed to distinguish the warning light. The airbag light will remove automatically once the issue has been fixed. It distinguishes itself.
Once I'd installed my ecu back into my car, the airbag light went off by its self.
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