#1: oil in coolant resovir Author: coolhas, Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:37 am ---- hi guys i have a 52 plate Peugeot 206 1.4 Auto only done 46000 i have noticed my coolant has gone brownish and is burning a bit i think it ever so slightly overheats but there is no problem with the oil coudl the be a blow headgasket any help
#2: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:36 pm ---- Has the coolant been changed recently? Over time it will be discoloured, id try draining the coolant, running a coolant system cleaner throught it then refilling the coolant up with fresh stuff.
#3: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: coolhas, Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:12 pm ---- thanks for the reply should have mentioned yes it was changed about 3 months ago
#4: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:19 pm ---- Headgasket failure. Common problem with the main gallery seal failing
#5: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: coolhas, Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:29 pm ---- gutted are these k seal seal stuff any good i dont have the money to repair at the moment just lost my job god this is the worst time
#6: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: coolhas, Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:45 pm ---- just a quick update could this be my atf fluid in the coolant resoviour as i have recently had it changed and it keeps shwoing as low
just a quick update could this be my atf fluid in the coolant resoviour as i have recently had it changed and it keeps shwoing as low
Please dont tell me youve had it changed.......
You might aswell scrap the car now if they havent used the correct oil (peugeot specifc, cant remember the name but generic ATF will kill your box) and checked it at the correct temperature
It could be, more likely to be the headgasket
#8: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:33 pm ---- I have never seen brown AF fluid. It is usually red or green.
Dip you finger in (engine cold) and see if it feels oily on your finger or leaves an oily residue. Alternatively have a garage or knowledgeable mate have a look. A small garage may do a quick check for free hoping to get the repair. Ask for a quote and then tell them you need time to get the funds.
Yes, "K" seal and other sealants can work but must be treated as temporary. If you use one of those sealants I would avoid motorways and long journeys unless you belong to a recovery service like AA, RAC, Greenflag etc. as they can stop working (the sealants as well as recovery service) quite suddenly.
Obviously keep a daily check on fluid levels and leave you heater on low as no heat output can be an early indication of water loss.
If your temp gauge suddenly goes low that is another sign of fluid loss.
Also keep checking your engine oil level. If you get a mayonnaise (white milky substance) inside the filler that is a good sign water is now getting into the oil.
#9: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: coolhas, Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:15 pm ---- Hi I had the ATF changed about 2 months ago never had any problems just this.
it's seems sludgy and browny reddish in the coolant resovoura can't really tell but the thing is the engine oil level hasn't dropped been quite a few months since I've had that topped.
And it never really overheats into the red so I'm a bit stumped the garages just want to charger 80 odd for looking around at it
#10: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:04 am ---- Give it time. It will illuminate the snow and sport light soon enough
First it will be a pressure regulation fault and then clutch and brake band faults. Then its game over
Seen it too many times at my dealership
#11: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: coolhas, Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:26 pm ---- dont say that bud
#12: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:48 pm ---- Well I would flush the cooling system again,without adding a coolant this time,just water,and watch for the color change,if it stays clean water,then you are fine,but you need to do flushing few times,as it stays in the system.
About the Automatic gearbox,I have to agree with Addaz,as there is a one oil used by Peugeot,specially for the AL4 gearbox,and after change it,you need to hook it to pp2000,and do the some calculations according on how many liters you used,usually 4 liters,this step is important so that the Automatic Gearbox computer knows that the oil been changed.
#13: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: coolhas, Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:10 pm ---- Hi so I should watch what colour the water comes back out while I run it through the hoses pipes etc ? Only thing is I can't find the bleeding points are they in a different on autos ????
#14: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:43 pm ---- read this link on here,you will see where the bleeding points is,and automatic of manual gearbox,it's the same.
#15: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:01 pm ---- Flush the coolant quite a bit ignoring what colour comes out. Refill and bleed the system with plain water only. Run the car for a while (a week should be long enough) and see what happens to the water. The reason for no antifreeze mix is that it is easier to see what happens to plain water than what happens to coloured coolant.
If it seems good after a week drain the water and refill with the correct water / coolant mix. Don't leave plain water in the system as the additive also has corrosion inhibitors as well as antifreeze.
#16: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: coolhas, Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:29 pm ---- Hi thanks for that I've flushed it and it seems to have gone dirty within 2. Hours looks like chocolatey colour sludgeish there's nothing wrong with engine oil bu transmisson oil low again I'm sure it's that mixing with it
#17: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:17 pm ---- Does the ATF and engine coolant share a common radiator?
If so is that failed?
#18: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: coolhas, Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:38 pm ---- I'm not sure if they do hopefully some one else might know ?
#19: Re: oil in coolant resovir Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:36 pm ----
kandlbarrett wrote:
Does the ATF and engine coolant share a common radiator?
If so is that failed?
Yes they do,the car with an automatic transmission,will have a hose next the lower hose (the one you drain the radiator and coolant system from),it's smaller in diameter,so yes they share same radiator.
Well the problem might be in the gearbox oil cooler,so it mix the oil with coolant,so replace that part will fix the problem,but I'm afraid that the gearbox is going to be damaged because of water getting inside it.
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