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#1: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Man_of_Eire91 PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:32 am
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Hi all!

Just come back from the garage and I've had a bit of work done.
So i get back to the garage to pick the car up and see how the work went and all went well. I had the front left wheel replaced as it was worn, a new cat with a new exhaust pipe and back box. Along with the gaitor cover replaced just so it would pass the mot.
long story short(er) I was told i need the lower? suspension arms replaced?
Are these a common problem on 206's and how much do they normally cost to replace?
I was quoted between £150-160 including labour, good or bad?
I did what any person would do and checked around other garages for prices and one garage quoted £229.23,which is bad compared to the original price.
How long does the work normlly take as i was under the impression it takes around 1- 1 and a half hours.


Thanks in advance

#2: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: iainlovatt PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:07 am
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wishbones are expensive! would recommend doing both sides. Last time i checked wishbones were 60 a side! and a couple of hours labour!

#3: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: gazza82, Location: South Bucks PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:20 am
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£60? From Peugeot double that esp for GTI ones. I have quote here for £121.85 EACH PLUS VAT! Non GTI ones are cheaper ...

The cheaper ones don't last long on a CC or GTI ... possibly the heavy engines or strain from wide wheels. It tends to tear the rubber mountings.

I've got two FAI ones from online-automotive to fit next week to our CC. Around £100 the pair. inc vat and del.


They take me 1 1/2 to 2 hours per side and I'm not a mechanic nor can get the car up on a lift which makes the job much easier.

#4: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Man_of_Eire91 PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:56 am
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Cheers for the replies!

Yeah the gent said i'm best off doing both sides.
When he said 150 for the job i was like what! after forking out 191, but looking at what you guys said its a lot cheaper.
I've gone through a set of tyres from it, as it's wearing the inside of the tyre. So replacing them is a must by the look Sad

Hard to answer but what's the life time for the cheap ones?

Really i want the car to last as long as possible as I've been looking at the 2.2 turbo civics as the insurance is cheaper, but if I'm fixing the car i might as well keep it for a while longer then sell it on.

Is it possible they'll find more problems when changing the arms or?

#5: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: gazza82, Location: South Bucks PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:11 am
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Man_of_Eire91 wrote:
Hard to answer but what's the life time for the cheap ones?

Is it possible they'll find more problems when changing the arms or?

Could be as short as few weeks if the rubber boots split like some I've seen.

Could they find more things? possibly ... you never know!

Plus budget for tracking afterwards or you will scrub the new tyres again!

#6: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Man_of_Eire91 PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:31 am
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gazza82 wrote:
Man_of_Eire91 wrote:
Hard to answer but what's the life time for the cheap ones?

Is it possible they'll find more problems when changing the arms or?

Could be as short as few weeks if the rubber boots split like some I've seen.

Could they find more things? possibly ... you never know!

Plus budget for tracking afterwards or you will scrub the new tyres again!

Very true, something can always go wrong!
I was thinking about that, when i finish my first of two shifts tomorrow i'll pop in and ask how much the tracking will cost.

Just debating where to get the mot done as the garage I've just had work in is offering an mot at £54 odd with a retest or the new place up the road which is £36 for the mot but £15 for a retest,and they'll pick up the car and drop is off.

#7: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Seatock789, Location: Morecambe PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:03 pm
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Re-tests are free if left at the garage for repairs from what I remember and I think also free if it is returned within 24hrs for a re-test

#8: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: gazza82, Location: South Bucks PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:06 am
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Blimey ... I can get an MOT for £30 and free retest up to 7 days even if I take the car away!

#9: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:26 am
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Seatock789 wrote:
Re-tests are free if left at the garage for repairs from what I remember and I think also free if it is returned within 24hrs for a re-test
What He Said

If left at the testing centre for repair, then no retest fee if work is carried out before 10 working days is up.

If you take it away and return before the end of the next working day, then no fee applies, but only for certain things. Mainly those that don't require the tester to do more than open the door.

Take the vehicle away and return within 10 days then a partial fee may be charged.

#10: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: pug_206_uk, Location: Stoke on trent PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:42 am
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I would not pay £54 for an mot!, I've just paid £30 and the retest is free, i have the same problem as both my arms are bust but I'm buying cheap ones from eBay for £57 delivered and i get both suspension arms, track rod ends and drop links, doing this as well as my track rod ends are looking worse for wear, there cheap I know but even if i was to buy from euro car parts it would be £106 for the same lot and even that only comes with 1 year warranty, the cheap lot from eBay has 1 year warranty so it has to be eBay, i only have a 1.4 hid and steelies fitted now so they won't be under much strain and short on funds at the moment, what I plan to do is powerflex all the bushes later in the year.

#11: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Man_of_Eire91 PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:15 pm
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I know i really don't want to pay £54 for one but, won't it make sense for the garage who's done all the work to do the mot? as he may let something on the limit go and say this needs doing and i'll go back for more work?

Won't i get a warranty from a garage?
I've just been on Groupon and I've found a few deals in Cardiff, and now that's tempting me to buy one of those as i'll save a small amount of dough.

TO: Pug_206_uk,
Makes sense to do it that way as i'll save money, but i prefer to get a garage to fit the parts as i do want to learn how to do more major jobs but scared i'd muck it up.

#12: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: Swindon PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:37 pm
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If you use the garage with the cheap price find out the make of the arms he is using. Cheap arms can fail in a weeks and few cheap one last longer than 12 months. Why save on parts then pay the garage twice to do the job?

#13: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Man_of_Eire91 PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:42 pm
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I ended up using the garage that had done the work as he's done a good job on the other repairs/service.
He's booked in for new suspension arms and an mot.
Anyone know how long each job will take?

I know it's a high price for an mot but I'll just take the hit this month.
Hopefully it passes first time.

#14: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: pug_206_uk, Location: Stoke on trent PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:56 pm
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I'll keep you updated on how long they last hopefully up to a year will be good

#15: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Oafie, Location: Glyn Ceiriog PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:11 pm
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hi mate, when you get your arms done make sure they fit the right ones. I've just changed mine after I took my coil overs off I went to get the car tracked and I was told I had 1 degree of positive camber which is not good, the car felt like it was fighting to stay on the road. I then found out that there are 2 different types of wishbone and mine had the expensive ones . I paid £82 for the pair which is almost twice the price of the other ones. I don't know what year they changed them on but mine's an 04 plate.

#16: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Project2062014, Location: Cornwall PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:35 am
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Oafie wrote:
hi mate, when you get your arms done make sure they fit the right ones. I've just changed mine after I took my coil overs off I went to get the car tracked and I was told I had 1 degree of positive camber which is not good, the car felt like it was fighting to stay on the road. I then found out that there are 2 different types of wishbone and mine had the expensive ones . I paid £82 for the pair which is almost twice the price of the other ones. I don't know what year they changed them on but mine's an 04 plate.

wounded !

#17: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: wifes206, Location: Leicestershire PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:06 am
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I thought the arms are all the same size, my understanding was
that they came with different bushes.
Like the gti arms come with better bushes in as standard

#18: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Man_of_Eire91 PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:05 am
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Thanks mate,
That's interesting to know. Well the arms are done and the pug passed the mot but he changed the rear bearing on the drivers side.
The advisories are as follows;

Petrol tank strap corroded

Offside front cool spring corroded

Near side front cool spring corroded

Near side rear tyre close to limit.

When I picked up the car I asked for a quote on all the advisory work and he quoted me around £280?
Good? Bad?
I can buy the new tyre else where for £13 cheaper than his price for on, so that's no worries. We regardes to the work that need doing I'll do it in steps and see if anything else pops up.
Interesting to know about the different type of arms, I'll find out if they are the correct ones when I get the tracking done I suppose

#19: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Oafie, Location: Glyn Ceiriog PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:46 am
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my car had the same issue with the fuel tank strap, got it from my local Peugeot dealer but I cant remember how much it cost, i'll have a look at my pile receipt's when I
can find em, the misses puts everything away. If your going to have too change your springs I'd change the top mounts too, best £55 I've spent on mine yet.

#20: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: southwestchap, Location: Devon PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:47 am
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TBF that isn't a bad quote,

Tank strap is pretty standard on a 206, they all rust unless treated.

Tyre, meh just a tyre - depends on what brand they were offering that could reflect on the price

The offside and nearside springs are what will bump the price up. Time/Labour and possibility of knackard droplinks/top mounts

#21: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: lip_88, Location: wolverhampton PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:16 pm
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Don't seem to bad a price really but like others have said my top mounts looked and sounded fine but fell apart when I fitted new springs so if it were me I'd change them anyway along with drop links because they are cheap then forget about it all for a long time

#22: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Man_of_Eire91 PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:23 pm
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Yeah that would be grand if you do find out the price.

So for the mounts aswell we'd be looking at £330 or so?
I've already changed the drop links 2 weeks age. Best part I'be change on a car, as the knocking was very irritating.

I've got a quote for tracking and it seems a standard prive of £30 for 90% of garages,so I'll get that done this weekend before it wears the tyres.

#23: Re: Lower suspenion arms? Author: Oafie, Location: Glyn Ceiriog PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:30 pm
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I got mine off ebay 2x KYB FRONT Shock Absorber TOP MOUNTING KIT PEUGEOT 206 1998-ON #SM1910/11 £55



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