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206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing
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#1: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: shaunbrook7104, Location: Shropshire PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:23 am
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Hey guys I've been looking for reference material online for a while now with no luck really!!!

I'm looking for the gearbox on a 405 MI16 fitting a 206 GTI 180/RC engine block.

All the pictures google has showed seem as if they are exactly the same mounting points and the gearbox mount and bushes seem the same to.

Is this me or is it coincidence? I've emailed Spoox but no reply yet, they probably haven't finished laughing yet haha Laughing

Any Ideas guys would be cool Very Happy

#2: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: shaunbrook7104, Location: Shropshire PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:57 am
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So i got a reply from Spoox and they say that the gearbox will match up exactly and will work front wheel drive! I just have to weld and install the rear end and do some tunnel work for the rear

#3: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:24 pm
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Can a crank sensor be fitted the to mi-16 gearbox?

#4: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: LeeThr, Location: North West Wales PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:07 pm
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Any particular reason for doing so?

The MI-16 is just an XU10 lump, similar to the GTi-6, but depending on the year will either be a BE1 or BE3 box, either way more than likely to be on a cable clutch set up where as the 180 runs a hydraulic set up.

#5: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:03 pm
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I can swap all your internals from one box to other at a cost.
Or even fit the 180 bellhousing to your 405 mid casing
Meaning you would require no hacking about and have whatever is special in your gearbox into another.

#6: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:05 pm
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Im just stabbing at the dark here but by the sounds of it he may be using the chocolate peugeot 4wd system found in some 405's

#7: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: LeeThr, Location: North West Wales PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:10 pm
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Addaz wrote:
Im just stabbing at the dark here but by the sounds of it he may be using the chocolate peugeot 4wd system found in some 405's

Oh dear, the mk1 MI-16X4 transmission Laughing That has some nasty electrical gremlins if I remember rightly, that will be a BE1 box if my memory does work haha.

Could be interesting for the 5 minuites it works Laughing

Speaking of swapping box's around I may have some work for you at some point in the non too distant future as well.

#8: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:11 pm
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would that be the KitKat one

#9: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: LeeThr, Location: North West Wales PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:19 pm
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macj wrote:
would that be the KitKat one

Pretty much Laughing

#10: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:22 pm
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NOTE to OP
I like the way your thinking.... but I wouldn't do it if you are going to stick any amps thru it

#11: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: LeeThr, Location: North West Wales PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:28 pm
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What system did they use on the wrc car? That was an EW10 lump wasn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Just thinking about it, where did they get the space from for the transfer box, on the 180 especially I cant think how you'd get the box and the exhaust in there.

#12: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: 206gt160, Location: Blackburn PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:32 pm
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What are the issues with the electrics on the 4 wheel drive system, also are there any other issues/weakness'. I didn't know they did a 4 wheel drive system. How good would a 4 wheel drive 206 Gti be! By the sounds of things it would be a bad idea though wih using this system

Bump

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#13: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:32 pm
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The 206 WRC didn't use an EW10 engine.

#14: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: 206gt160, Location: Blackburn PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:36 pm
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206 wrc Engine


Cast aluminum block and head construction, front transversally mounted XU9J4 base type.

1997.5 cm3 , water cooled turbo charged. Bore: 85mm, stroke: 88mm. Compression ratio 8.5:1 2 OHC belt driven and hydraulic tappets. 4 valves per cylinder. Oil cooler and carbon oil casing

Engine output: 300Bhp @ 5250rpm. Engine torque: 635Nm @ 4000rpm. Garrett/Allied Signal TR30R turbo charger and Magneti-Marelli Step 9 engine management.

#15: Re: 206 RC/GTI 180 bellhousing matching 405 MI16 Bellhousing Author: LeeThr, Location: North West Wales PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:38 pm
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My bad, I stand corrected, so the wrc car was the early mi-16 lump then.



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