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#1: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:27 am
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Ok - I have had fun and games with my GTI 138 - now I have a spongy pedal that with a little force will go to the floor - it stops the car but in an emergency?????

I have changed discs all round - pads all round (including green stuff up front) - front hoses (were a bit rusty/crusty) and even the brake master cylinder - bled the whole system - oh and new nipples on the front callipers -

Still spongy pedal - and I can push it the floor

I cant seem to get the abs to kick in - although I am a little reluctant to try too hard for obvious reasons

What is causing this - the servo looks quite new and the old master cylinder wasnt leaking all over it

Have been trowing money/parts at it and still the pedal is rubbish - with this lot changed it should take my face off when i hit the pedal

Help

#2: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:28 am
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And obviously checked for leaks and topped up etc after bleeding the system

No leaks anywhere

#3: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:34 am
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How was the brake bleeding carried out?

Pressure bleeding? Vacuum bleeding? or manual pedal pressing bleeding?

New discs & pads will result in a spongy pedal until there bedded in.

#4: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:45 am
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Discs and pads were done two/three weeks ago and they were fine - more recently noticed the pedal was going long - we changed the pads to green stuff and bled them the first time - then it got worse. They still stop the car but do not insprire any confidence arghhhhhhhhh

#5: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:19 am
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Which method did you use to bleed the brakes?

#6: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:23 am
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Sorry - used an Easybleed pressure bleeder

#7: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:23 am
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would that make a difference??

#8: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:26 am
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its the type you use the pressure off your tyre to operate - is that not good for a Peugeot - poxy french thingie????

#9: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:35 am
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would this work better www.amazon.co.uk/Seale...eeding+kit

I asume air is getting behind with a pressure type system??????????

#10: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:40 am
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Does the abs unit need bleeding?? how do you do that??

#11: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: ukskater01, Location: sutton surrey/welwyn garden city PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:32 pm
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Did you bleed the master cylinder too?

#12: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:37 pm
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Yes we bled the new master cylinder

#13: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:40 pm
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johnpidge wrote:
its the type you use the pressure off your tyre to operate - is that not good for a Peugeot - poxy french thingie????

Used these for years on cars & forklifts including my 2 x 206's both with ABS & never had any issues.

As long as you follow the instructions & watch the maximum recommended air pressure they work fine. About 20 PSI tops on the one I used the other week.

#14: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:02 pm
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Would the vacuum type bleed unit work better??

#15: Re: brake pedal goes to the floor Author: johnpidge PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:05 pm
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Gotta be air in the system still



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