#1: Is this brake pipe splice MOT "Legal" Author: jam1e, Location: WorcestershirePosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:47 pm ---- Hi folks,
First off, my wife's car is a 2003 206 1.4 HDI.
The car had a free "Health Check" last week at one of the Lister group garages. Although it's within it's MOT, the car has been neglected somewhat due to finances.
The check was videoed and sent to my email and threw up a few issues. After I'd sifted through the crap I was left with a few items that were clear to see. One of which was a badly leaking OSR brake cylinder. Now although I'm physically disabled, I do like to be as productive as possible, and wanted to do as many of the repairs as possible. Unfortunately I couldn't undo the brake pipe bolt attached to the cylinder due to corrosion and whoever worked on it last rounding the bolt off. That's even with using the appropriate "Brake spanner" which I never even knew existed until yesterday, after reading a post on here. So thank-you!
Back to the point, hopefully my photo will show up, giving you an idea of my splice. Just in case it makes a difference. The ends of the pipes have been flared. I believe it's called a bubble/double flare. (I forget?) Obviously using a flaring tool. Just to point out it does not have the "Olive" type compression joints used in water plumbing systems.
I have been told that this type of joint is permissible and will pass an MOT. I appreciate it's a little late now, but does anyone out there know for sure?
I will use a cable tie to secure the joint at it's centre to the suspension arm.
Any constructive comments would be appreciated...
Cheers
Jamie
Just to add, the fluid under the joint is old.
#2: Re: Is this brake pipe splice MOT "Legal" Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:36 pm ---- Thats fine and looks very good quality, well done. Though i would have considered running it to a fixing made by peugeot instead of adding another join
#3: Re: Is this brake pipe splice MOT "Legal" Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:20 pm ---- Looks good to me. I need one of those double female fittings for mine.
#4: Re: Is this brake pipe splice MOT "Legal" Author: jam1e, Location: WorcestershirePosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:51 pm ----
Addaz wrote:
Thats fine and looks very good quality, well done. Though i would have considered running it to a fixing made by peugeot instead of adding another join
Thanks Addaz,
I did try and take it to the next joint, but I couldn't get the spanner over the nut. The steel to "material/rubber" hose joint at the end of the original OE brake pipe is (as you probably know) only a few inches above where the photo ends. I couldn't gain any movement on the nut due to lack of room. I did notice the joint is held in position by what looks like an "L" shaped bracket held in position by a nut and bolt. This would be easy enough to remove, and give me the required access. However, there's quite a chunky spring attached to the bracket, which is under tension. The thing is, I've no idea what the purpose of the spring is?? As such I bottled it to be honest Something to do with the handbrake maybe?
I will obviously need to bleed the brakes now, can I just crack on and bleed the cylinder in the traditional way, or do I need to do something else which involves this manifold thing?
Thanks for the help.
Jamie Last edited by jam1e on Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:00 pm; edited 1 time in total
#5: Re: Is this brake pipe splice MOT "Legal" Author: jam1e, Location: WorcestershirePosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:05 pm ----
Edward wrote:
Looks good to me. I need one of those double female fittings for mine.
Thanks Edward,
The flaring tool was loaned to me by a mechanic neighbour. The joints and piping were donated to me by him. I'll sort him a decent drink for the help.
Jamie
#6: Re: Is this brake pipe splice MOT "Legal" Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:21 pm ---- That is just the load sensor, when the vehicles height drops it pulls on the spring to increase brake pressure to the rear.
Bleed the system like normal mate, 10 to 20 pumps would be good
#7: Re: Is this brake pipe splice MOT "Legal" Author: jam1e, Location: WorcestershirePosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:29 am ----
Addaz wrote:
That is just the load sensor, when the vehicles height drops it pulls on the spring to increase brake pressure to the rear.
Bleed the system like normal mate, 10 to 20 pumps would be good
Cheers Addaz,
Much appreciated.
Thanks.
Jamie
#8: Re: Is this brake pipe splice MOT "Legal" Author: jam1e, Location: WorcestershirePosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:28 pm ---- Last question.
I'll hopefully doing the second new joint tomorrow, then bleeding them.
Is there an order in which the brakes should be bled, or just fronts then back?
Thanks.
#9: Re: Is this brake pipe splice MOT "Legal" Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:34 pm ----
jam1e wrote:
Last question.
I'll hopefully doing the second new joint tomorrow, then bleeding them.
Is there an order in which the brakes should be bled, or just fronts then back?
Thanks.
Start with the furthest away from the master cylinder then work your way towards the nearest is good general rule of thumb.
#10: Re: Is this brake pipe splice MOT "Legal" Author: jam1e, Location: WorcestershirePosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:26 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
jam1e wrote:
Last question.
I'll hopefully doing the second new joint tomorrow, then bleeding them.
Is there an order in which the brakes should be bled, or just fronts then back?
Thanks.
Start with the furthest away from the master cylinder then work your way towards the nearest is good general rule of thumb.
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