#1: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: HowlingMadMurdock, Location: Ashington, NorthumberlandPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:40 pm ---- Ok so let's say the basics are done (bulbs, wipers, etc) and everything looks ok and the car doesn't exhibit any problems when driving.
What are the most common "hidden" problems the 206 fails the MoT for?
#2: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:42 pm ---- Fuel tank securing strap is becoming a common failure point.
#3: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: cainw1, Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:48 pm ---- All the usual suspects.. tyres, brakes, brake lines, all bulbs working.
MrBSI wrote:
Fuel tank securing strap is becoming a common failure point.
Mine was extremely rusty but very cheap and easy to replace.
#4: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: HowlingMadMurdock, Location: Ashington, NorthumberlandPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:50 pm ---- I can understand that MrBSI, it takes a lot of stuff thrown at it.
I'm expecting the usual stuff this year, the little things that were advisories last year that weren't urgent. I'm just curious as to what "hidden" things can arise in 7,000 miles that we may not be aware of.
And after last year's schoolboy error I've made sure to check the basics this year
#5: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: HowlingMadMurdock, Location: Ashington, NorthumberlandPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:52 pm ---- Cain I'm expecting a brake line this year, it got an advisory for minor corrosion last year on the nearside front
#6: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:32 pm ----
HowlingMadMurdock wrote:
Cain I'm expecting a brake line this year, it got an advisory for minor corrosion last year on the nearside front
I make sure that any advisories are changed throughout the year, normally within a couple of weeks of the MOT being issued, that way I'm not rushing around in the last few weeks trying to make sure everything is spot on, and also spreads the running costs throughout the year rather than having one lump sum to pay out to keep the car on the road.
My mechanic always told me the handbrake could be better. I changed the auto adjusters inside the drums and he's not had a problem since.
Another common failure is the load sensing valve. A good soak in WD40 a few weeks beforehand normally prevents this being a problem
#7: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: HowlingMadMurdock, Location: Ashington, NorthumberlandPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:37 pm ---- Ah the load sensing valve. On checks on the previous 7 MoT's this was a common fail. I'm led to believe grease and a screwdriver sorts it out very easily.
Sounds like your mechanic is like my local garage, very good and give good advice Macca. As I'm only working part time at the moment my local garage said they will get me through with used parts if need be as they know I'm on a budget and need the car for work. Very nice guys
#8: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:44 pm ---- FYI: Remember that later 206's don't have the load compensating valve on the back as the EBD takes over that function.
For the 206's that do have the compensator valve fitted then yes they do like to seize up
#9: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: HowlingMadMurdock, Location: Ashington, NorthumberlandPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:54 pm ---- Mine is a 2000 model 1.4, yes I still have the little £500 car 2 years later and done 20k in it. She's been a great car, done several Akita rescues in it nationwide, it's been around the race track at Oliver's Mount in Scarbrough, constant trips to Scotland and Yorkshire from Northumberland, and still reliable. I dread the day she gives up because I'd be gutted
#10: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: southwestchap, Location: DevonPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:59 am ---- From my experience.
Fuel Tank Strap
Front Brake Flexi pipes
Potential Wishbone Bushes/Balljoint dust cover
Droplink play (though you would hear this)
Rear compensator valve
Pretty much what's said here.
#11: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: steviebee, Location: kentPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:53 am ---- Had the car 4 years, 3 mot's. No advisories on any. Although the year before last forgot the mot was due. Took it to a garage that said they could do it straight away. He did everything bar jump up and down on the roof, even took the back seats out. Finally failed it on passenger side headlamp beam being off. He produced a bent headlamp bulb and promptly charged me £10 to change it and give me a pass certificate. Funny because the night before the head lamps were spot on. He then said it was the best 206 he had tested and it had been well looked after.
#12: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: HowlingMadMurdock, Location: Ashington, NorthumberlandPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:53 pm ---- I've given the car a good look over before the MoT tomorrow and I'm expecting 3 potential fails.
Front brake line (advisory for slight corrosion last year)
Grumbling wheel bearing but it only starts at over 30mph and there's no play in the wheels so it may scrape through on that.
Headlight alignment. I rarely use it at night and up against a wall today I noticed the driver's side seems a bit low.
After a good run today without any music for a change there's no knocks, clunks, drives straight as a die with hands off the wheel, keeps straight under braking, and seems as good as ever so fingers crossed it'll be ok.
I'm expecting them to find something I can't spot myself but that's par for the course really. Last year's schoolboy error was embarrassing. He put the brakes on and I could've cried when a brake light was out. Plus a number plate bulb. All checked this year with new bulbs, new wipers, etc. Had a good clean and that's as much as I can do really. I've seen far worse cars pass no problem so unless anything major is going on that I can't see all should be fairly cheap. If it's less than £200 for a 15 year old car to pass I'll be a happy chap
#13: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:56 pm ---- A decent tester would quickly adjust the headlamp alignment as long as the adjustor isnt sized ( wont be on a 206 ).
#14: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: HowlingMadMurdock, Location: Ashington, NorthumberlandPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:09 pm ---- Very true MrBSI and I believe headlamp adjustment is one of the few things permitted to be carried out during the MoT test. I'm sure I read that on some MoT advice site but I could be wrong. And to be fair the garage I use pride themself on reputation so they're very fair indeed. They actually have big signs up locally slating the likes of Kwik Fit etc and the owner seems to have some vendetta against rip-off garages. Plus if he knows money is tight (as with me at the moment) he does his best to help by sourcing cheaper parts or used parts if he can find them locally so I know I won't be ripped off.
We'll see what tomorrow brings. I have £350 to play with and I can't see it being that much (hopefully)
#15: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: yorkielassy, Location: YorkshirePosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:40 pm ---- Hey Howling, Good Luck with the MOT.
#16: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: HowlingMadMurdock, Location: Ashington, NorthumberlandPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:49 pm ---- Cheers Yorkie, long time no hear
#17: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: HowlingMadMurdock, Location: Ashington, NorthumberlandPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:10 am ---- Got the MoT result yesterday....
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Offside Front sill Vehicle structure is damaged, seriously affecting its strength within 30cm of the body mountings (6.1.B.2)
Offside Front Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c)
Oil leak
Total cost including test fee £150 and for a 15 year old car I'm happy with that, it could have been a lot worse. With the corrosion creeping in and living close to the sea I can say from experience with my former 106 it's the beginning of the end but by the next MoT we'll have had 3 years out of a £500 car that's already covered 20,000 miles for us. By any standards that's good going.
The faults listed are ones that I can't fix myself and the moral of the story here is do the pre-MoT checks listed on this forum (and other internet sites) and you shouldn't get stung. I'll admit to a touch of paranoia leading up to the MoT but that's no bad thing, it makes us check everything properly.
Most of all, find a MoT station you trust to be fair. The garage I use pride themselves on fairness and prices and to them reputation is everything. In context I looked into the history of my 106 and a well known garage chain failed it several times for things that should have been advisories. We all know there are sharks out there that will happily fail a car for profit but VOSA are getting very keen on checking up on people now. Sharon's step-brother is a MoT tester and he's had VOSA put a car in for MoT secretly as a check on him, he didn't know it was them until he'd done the test and he was spot on. For the record the only reason I don't take it to him for the MoT is the risk of anyone accusing him of passing a car on family favouritism, if anyone accused him of that it could damage his career.
And don't fall foul of the internet advice of using council MoT tests thinking it will be an easy pass, it's a myth. The truth is they are every bit as strict as anyone else and the sting in the tail is you have to take the car for your own repairs and you will incur a retest fee, it may well end up more hassle than it's worth. The problem is you're still legally entitled to drive the car if it's still within it's original MoT however the fail is instantly recorded onto the database and the police will know it's had a fail on ANPR and will pull your over. If they deem the car to be unraodworthy you will be charged and fined for sure. Bear in mind the MoT tester will mark on the database if the fault is dangerous, if you're caught with that then you're bang to rights.
After a lot of research into MoT tests this week I can confidently say that the majority of testers are fair, it's not worth their well paid jobs to be dodgy. The main thing is to find a garage that is fair with repair costs. As the 206's start to age it's always going to cost money but you can keep the costs down if you do the proper checks and preparation
#18: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:10 pm ---- I put the car in for a pre MOT check in the month before the MOT expires. If it fails, it's not recorded and I get the month to do any repairs. If it passes I get a certificate issued which lasts until 12 months after the date of expiry of the previous certificate.
What damage have you got on the sill? Has someone been jacking the car up and flattened the seam?
#19: Re: What are the most likely 206 MoT fails? Author: HowlingMadMurdock, Location: Ashington, NorthumberlandPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:09 pm ---- It seems it's corrosion Macca, typical of the salt in the air from the sea around here and it does have some surface rust creeping in around the door edges on that side.
All said and done this is the same tale as my old 106, when the end comes the body will give up long before the mechanical parts do
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