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passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it
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#1: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 3:01 am
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hi people,

yet another issue with my lovely 206,

my car makes a weird clunk noise when going over slightly un even road surfaces. small pot holes for example. it does not sound right.

when i twist the wheel from left to right i get a slight bit of movement and a clunk.

any ideas? need to get this sorted

thanks in advance

Lee

#2: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: Pp4811 PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:06 am
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Hi
I can't help with your issue but I have the same thing. It's annoying. I'm guessing it's the drop links, there's no movement when the wheels are on the ground but that could be due to the weight of the car on them.
It would be worth checking those first.

#3: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:45 am
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going to get it up on a jack tonight have a better look

#4: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: Sim, Location: West Country PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:47 am
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My bet on drop links too.

If you get under the car and ask someone to go on full lock (will work only one direction like you said, from left to right), you'll see the faulty droplink popping about its balljoint and making that clunk. Putting palm on the droplink would feel it pop too (health & safety first)

#5: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:01 am
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aha i will try to check that, been doing my head in last week or so ive gone from wishbone to wishbone bushings to suspension arm and now to drop links Smile i'll have a look and ask the garage too as i roughly know whats causing it

#6: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: Sim, Location: West Country PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:13 am
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I discovered that myself when both front wheels were jacked up in the air (the weight off as Pp4811 said)

Word of warning, do not go to full lock and back when you have only one side jacked up by the sill - the car will tilt and grind the jack/stand

#7: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: Pp4811 PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:31 am
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Drop links should be easy enough to do yourself bud. I'm a complete and utter mechanical idiot and managed drop links on my lunch break before.

#8: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:07 pm
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Ha ha that's like me then, yeah been looking at how to do it and want to save my self the cost of labour so will do them myself, euro car parts have them for £15 Smile

#9: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: Pp4811 PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:47 pm
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Is that £15 for the pair? Best off changing them as a pair.

#10: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: Spotfist PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 2:39 pm
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Ye I have to do mine as well for it's upcoming MOT, was it 15 each or 1 for the pair?

#11: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: Spotfist PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:12 am
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just had a look and it's less than a tenner for a pair on fleabay.

#12: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: LeeThr, Location: North West Wales PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 8:19 am
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Spotfist wrote:
just had a look and it's less than a tenner for a pair on fleabay.

Don't buy cheap ebay crap or you'll be changing them again in under 6 months.

#13: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 11:51 am
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So drop links came today but they don't have the common hex key in the centre of the bolt is that a good or bad thing?

#14: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: Sim, Location: West Country PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 1:05 pm
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Don't know how you would keep the joint from turning while doing the nut, if bolts are standard blank. The ones (one up from cheapest) on eurocarparts had torx in them bolt ends, conveniently

#15: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 1:21 pm
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Damn I was thinking that too can't see how I'd tighten them up if they haven't got one :S

#16: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 1:29 pm
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Looking closer it seems to have two flat sides towards the base of the bolt guessing il have to grip these to tighten it

#17: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: Pp4811 PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 1:50 pm
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Yeah you use a spanner on the flat bit (like a nut) and then tighten up the bolt. That is the usual way for drop links to be fastened up anyway. Much easier than using an Allen key.

#18: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 2:05 pm
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thats what i want to hear Smile been trying to see but every how to is the allen key style. checked my old drop links and the rubber is knackered both sides have split so imguessing/hoping that this solves my problem

#19: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: kandlbarrett, Location: Swindon PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 8:54 pm
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Allen key is OK to start with but when removing the droplinks the bolts are often so rusted the Allen shape rounds off so out with the grinder. Flats are a much better design.

#20: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: kandlbarrett, Location: Swindon PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 8:56 pm
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I don't think drop links are MOT fail as anti roll bar and associated components are not safety critical element. They can be advisory though.

#21: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: kandlbarrett, Location: Swindon PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:12 pm
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I don't think drop links are MOT fail as anti roll bar and associated components are not safety critical element. They can be advisory though.

#22: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: kandlbarrett, Location: Swindon PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:13 pm
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Allen key is OK to start with but when removing the droplinks the bolts are often so rusted the Allen shape rounds off so out with the grinder. Flats are a much better design.

#23: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 1:32 pm
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Well replaced the drop links, not too bad getting the old ones off, doddle getting the new ens on, came to a lovely problem when putting the passenger wheel back on, managed to snap a bolt inside the hub. Luckily came out dead easy with a bolt extractor :). BUT! Knocking noise is still there. Old drops were corroded and split but seems like they weren't the problem Sad any other ideas? On the advisory there was something about ball joint? But the knocking can sometimes be felt in the pedals :S strut problem maybe?

#24: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: kandlbarrett, Location: Swindon PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 4:11 pm
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Track rod end or bottom swivel. From your early description my money is on one of the track rod ends. I mean the swivel joint that is closest to each wheel.

Track rod ends best inspected by holding the road wheel at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock and twisting the wheel or you look as someone just wiggles (not turn but wiggle) the steering wheel. Bottom swivel is with hands at 6 and 12 o'clock on the road wheel and again twist the wheel.

Or a bit more stringent test lever the joints with a bar though hands provided you aren't a 7 stone weeklong are enough.

#25: Re: passenger side wheel clunks when i manually twist it Author: nemesislee, Location: stoke PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:01 am
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Slight update:

changed the drop links nice and easy job......... although managed to snap a wheel bolt in the hub which was annoying. Luckily it cam straight out with a bolt extractor. Found out it was a different type of metal compared to the rest, it was a lot shinier than the others. anyway drop links weren't to blame it was the wishbone. Brought a set from ebay and had both replaced and boom noise has gone!!! Smile looks like it might have been the lower suspension ball joint which did have play in it.

anyway onto the next fault which is a spluttering exhaust so yeah lol one more problem solved Smile

cheers people



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