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#16: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: ElectronZero, Location: North Bucks PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:33 pm
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Popping into my local head skimmers tomorrow to see if it can be sorted with a skim....

#17: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:56 pm
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Cost me £40 for a head skim and it was pretty bad

 

 

#18: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: ElectronZero, Location: North Bucks PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:43 pm
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That does not look good at all, did you go back and get it fixed correctly?

#19: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: Steve206, Location: UK PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:23 pm
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I think that's before the skim

#20: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:18 pm
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Steve206 wrote:
I think that's before the skim

Correct. This was post skim

 

#21: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:20 am
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Got a picture showing the bores

#22: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:21 pm
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macj wrote:
Got a picture showing the bores

Best one I got at the time of stripping
 

#23: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: Steve206, Location: UK PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:42 pm
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Did you lock the cams and crank when you did yours?

#24: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:44 am
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No need to worry about where TDC is now. You can get it right now and mark the crank pulley. I am sure there is locking hole in the flywheel and one on the cam wheel. You may need the special plug though for the flywheel end

#25: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:03 pm
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I just used an allen key to lock the flywheel and 10mm bolt in the cam pulley. The hole to lock the crank is a pig to get to though and ended up removing the oil filter housing to make life simpler.

#26: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:06 pm
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Good call I reckon

#27: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: ElectronZero, Location: North Bucks PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:12 pm
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Got the head back. £28 + vat from HeadLine in Milton Keynes. Very nice job and done in one day! Now to put it all back together.... Smile

#28: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: ElectronZero, Location: North Bucks PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:34 am
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Final update: Once the engine was apart I was able to move the main pulley and lock the engine side for the timing hole. I then rebuilt the head (even if I had managed to get the cam shaft locked in the correct point it would of been wasted as that section was completely dismantled for the head to be skimmed). Very useful to use compressed air to clean the head after skimming as lots of metal bits left after this process.

With the head on the engine I then put the cam in the correct timing hole point and locked it with a short bolt through the timing hole. I then fitted the cam belt and all other bits removed. Once all in place I very carefully manually turned the engine over about 6 times to check that no valves were snagging or other nightmare events Smile

Car started first time and is now running great.

Summary: If you are stripping and skimming your cylinder head then should not be necessary to lock timing points when dismantling as these can be done when rebuilding (my own experience and opinion on a 206).

Many thanks for all those of you who offered advice and assistance. If I can ever be of help then please post. I now have a Vpecker diag scanner so might be able to assist other 206 owners in diagnosing issues in the the north Bucks area.

#29: Re: Unable to manually move engine to TDC to lock cam. Author: panther12 PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:14 am
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I did a 1.1 headgasket last year to fix the common oil leak problem from the head. Think I used a long L shaped allen to lock the crank. After the work it was a bit gutless on low end power (pulling off and steep hills) so thought I'd messed up somewhere but I re-adjusted the tappets from a tight fitting feeler gauge setting to a tad on the sloppy side which improved it. Just got the oil leak from the sump to fix now.



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