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Seabook
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

drunknmunky wrote:
but can i manage on the old top mounts? with new bearings?

i understand what you mean with the nuts and that now Very Happy thanks

looks like im going to be waiting a bit before i fit these as i need to buy a lot more bits then Sad

ya, normally is only the bearing fail.
drunknmunky
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

but can i manage on the old top mounts? with new bearings?

i understand what you mean with the nuts and that now Very Happy thanks

looks like im going to be waiting a bit before i fit these as i need to buy a lot more bits then Sad
Seabook
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

drunknmunky wrote:
why gearbox oil? and bolts surely the old ones will do? i dont really have the money to be going doing all that and im pretty sure the garage i took it to before werent going to replace all these bits with the £180 that i was going to pay for them to fit them so im guessing they werent planning on doing any of this stuff :/

so is it really necessary to get new or can i manage on the old ones really? dont forget it is more for looks than anything i dont plan on running it round a track after Smile

because you need to pop the driving shaft out

all self-locking nuts are not recommanded to re-use
Edward
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

Whether for looks or track use you still don't want things falling off!

Nyloc nuts aren't supposed to be re-used and the nylon liner can sometimes fall out of the nut. I'm sure the garage wouldn't refit one that did though. Old crusty bolts sometimes need to be cut off too. I'd buy some new droplinks as well as they are definately best if replaced.

When the nearside strut is remove the driveshaft tends to come out leading to oil escaping.

Gearbox oil is a 75W80. I'd check that's the right because it's important to put the right grade in it, otherwise the gearchange becomes awful. Again there's some pictures of the correct oil in my Photobucket album.
drunknmunky
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

why gearbox oil? and bolts surely the old ones will do? i dont really have the money to be going doing all that and im pretty sure the garage i took it to before werent going to replace all these bits with the £180 that i was going to pay for them to fit them so im guessing they werent planning on doing any of this stuff :/

so is it really necessary to get new or can i manage on the old ones really? dont forget it is more for looks than anything i dont plan on running it round a track after Smile
Edward
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

Have a look on Euro Car Parts...could fit new top mounts. They seem to be about £60 ish these days. New bolts too and gearbox oil...the costs add up when doing it properly. DOn't forget to find a way to pull the hub off the wishbone ball joint...(see my pictures).
drunknmunky
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

so i defo need some new bearings then?

how much should i be looking to pay for these?
Edward
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

Mine popped out nicely. But that's because I was fitting new ones. If you don't have new ones your old ones will fall apart. It's just the way it is...
Seabook
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

Edward wrote:
Those silver top spring seats with replace the old ones. On the picture below the bearing and standard spring seat are fitted together, you'll need to separate yours.

 


Have a look in here, Page 15 and 16 roughly. If you've not done the suspension on a 206 they might be helpful. They were from a 'How to' I did on the old 206 info site before it died.

s38.photobucket.com/al...105/s1pso/

and when you remove the bearing from the spring seat, 9 out of 10 you will distroy the bearing Laughing
Seabook
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

i doubt they will have internal bumpstop as they are not inverted strut, but you can always use the oem one.
Edward
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

Those silver top spring seats with replace the old ones. On the picture below the bearing and standard spring seat are fitted together, you'll need to separate yours.

 


Have a look in here, Page 15 and 16 roughly. If you've not done the suspension on a 206 they might be helpful. They were from a 'How to' I did on the old 206 info site before it died.

s38.photobucket.com/al...105/s1pso/
drunknmunky
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

not as far as i know :/

but i have a link to the guide lines to fitting them and it says they would be supplied if they are needed

AVO Guidelines
Edward
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

Do they have internal bumpstops?
drunknmunky
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

any advice on where to seat the spring to start with and also once seated can i move it to go lower without having to take the whole thing off the car?

how will i fully lift the strut then or does it not matter about that?

it said in the instructions with them that i would have to cut it off :/ i dont really want to though tbh so i will take your advice and not cut it off Very Happy

i understood that i would have to use oem top mount just hope all my bits and bobs are alright like my bearing and that i cant really afford to fork out on new top mounts to fit them to, i should be okay using the old ones shouldnt i? they have only covered 28,000 miles
Seabook
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitting coilovers?

is just because the strut is not fully lifted. you don't have to cut the dust shield.

the silver one is the top spring pan. you will need to use oem top mount

btw, how come it is pink! lol