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Fifer
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

If its the angled bearings their is a sort of circlip that holds the bearing in the drum. Looking from the inside of the drum.

I had the same thing. Quoted 26 for new from factors. If the bit is a complete metal circle piece I believe it goes on the stub first against the rubber seal facing inwards. But can't guarantee that.
Seabook
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

Fifer wrote:
Good news.

I think the bolts stop the torsion bar from being able to slide out under vibration. I'm sure you know how likely that is to happen. However have you wiggled the washer around and did you clean out the groove and edge of washer. (Wouldn't the end plate keep it in anyway.)

They may just need retapping but I'm not sure of the size.

from my memory the bolts should be M 8..
ghosty1970
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

1 more little thing when i took the hub off the bearings and bits fell out not broke but wich way do all the bits go back in , i got everything back in but for the 1 looks like a circlip but not , where does this bit go . i have another hub/drum and cant see it in this one ..
ghosty1970
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

ok ta , will have to rethread the torsion bar then.
Seabook
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

i would think it will be better to put the bolts in...

it used to lock the washer in place so the torsion bar can't get loosen over time...
Fifer
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

Good news.

I think the bolts stop the torsion bar from being able to slide out under vibration. I'm sure you know how likely that is to happen. However have you wiggled the washer around and did you clean out the groove and edge of washer. (Wouldn't the end plate keep it in anyway.)

They may just need retapping but I'm not sure of the size.
ghosty1970
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

whoop, whoop got it on at last BUT now cant get the bolts in the torsion bar either end , yes the washer is out of the way , are these bolts esential , i will have to rethread i think . all other bolts & bits are in place .
ghosty1970
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

cheers Edward & evreyone who has contributed to my stupidity will get both sides on axle stands 2moz and try , if it is that simple i will be kicking myself & the dogs. curiosity i measured clearance with 1 side jacked up as well , { should i have ?? } what would or should be the correct method .
Edward
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

If one side is jacked up and the antil roll bar is still in place you'll never get the arm back in place.
Fifer
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

I'm wondering if the fact that you only have one side jacked could be causing this as well. It didn't with mine but that's not to say you don't have a slight twist or something.

Have you checked the threads on the bar and hole?
ghosty1970
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

but the bar is out of the passenger side so the washer wouldnt make a diff?? stuck solid on the arm taken out . would it make a diff iff i lifted other side off the floor so there is more play for the torsion bar ??
Seabook
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

ghosty1970 wrote:
yes i removed the screw but the washer is still there, washer doesnt stop the torsion bar going back in does it ?? i would rather get the arm on without dam bearings again and think about the bar later .

remove the washer and get the bars out.

the arm is very easy to put back on without the torsion bar, and you should be able to use the anti-roll bar to lock the arm in place and put the torsion bar back.

and once the torsion bar threads is clean and grease it is very easy to put it back in too
ghosty1970
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

yes i removed the screw but the washer is still there, washer doesnt stop the torsion bar going back in does it ?? i would rather get the arm on without dam bearings again and think about the bar later .
Fifer
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

This may seem a dumb question but did you remove the screw and washer from the passenger side of the torsion bar or are they still on the end. If you didn't then are they stuck in the hole or on the end of the bar?

Have you tried cleaning the passenger side torsion bar threads and hole threads. Look to see if you have a damaged thread.

I have seen a video where torsion bar for the drivers side pulls out of the drivers side (in to out) but this was for lowering.

It doesn't answer the question of why the torsion bar won't engage on the spindles that side though and even if you get the torsion bar completely separated it's still going to have to engage on those spindles in the passenger side.
ghosty1970
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: trailing arm bearings

one more thing i have been trying it with only 1 side jacked up , would this make a diff ?? would it be easier if i had the back end on axle stands ??