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MrBSI
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

There is a PCB inside the mirror that controls the folding motor by cutting the power when the mirror reaches one of the end stops.
MrWhite
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

The mirrors move freely with no effort that confused me and the pcb on the switch i presume i have tried 3
MrBSI
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

The little Scaletrix motors inside the mirror that do the folding function are prone to rusting solid.

The PCB that controls the folding movement can also fail.
MrWhite
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

I swapped the door loom and switch and the mirror wouldnt fold in
spud_gti
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

all i did to test mine was unpulg the door loom connector on the a pillar, and swap the switch out and try them from there....

mine were manually closed in so needed a few open / closed switches to get them to work to there limits.

might be easier / less worrying than putting 12v onto the pins??
MrWhite
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

Thanks I will get tinkering tomorrow
mtempsch
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

MrWhite wrote:
sorry to drag up an old thread. I have got some "folding" mirrors with full door loom and switch that had come off a 180. now these fold in by hand with little to no effort and makes me think they are nackared. is there a way of testing these with a 12v feed to see if they fold in or will I fry them?

All the switch in the 206 does is provide +12V and ground to the 2 wires to the folding motor, polarity depending on if it's folding in or out, so the risk of frying anything is small (if drawing from the car instead of separate battery or power supply make sure you fuse the wiring). As I understand it, stopping the motor once fully folded/open is done with limit switches in the mirror.

Don't recall which pin numbers the folding wires have, but you can probably find it in the wiring diagrams in the Howto->Maintenace subforum (ah, looks to be pins 8 & 9).
Not really critical anyway, as all you'll do if powering other wires is either moving the glass in some direction or powering the heater element.
MrWhite
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

sorry to drag up an old thread. I have got some "folding" mirrors with full door loom and switch that had come off a 180. now these fold in by hand with little to no effort and makes me think they are nackared. is there a way of testing these with a 12v feed to see if they fold in or will I fry them?
Lee
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

Just make a loom. I've made several before.
Walton450
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

Sounds good. Lol If any one would like to donate a set of door looms for a multiplex give us a shout.
MrBSI
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

Walton450 wrote:
I have the black plug under the window buttons. Was hoping it would be a simple plug in and have the switch with new tweeter covers. Probable just leave it how it is. Thanks anyways

P.s what are the small blocks for?

It is simple plug in IF you also change the door wiring looms which is pretty easy Laughing

You have the cabin part of the wiring loom as you said the black plug is there, you just need:

Combined mirror / window switch
The mirrors
2 matching door wiring looms.
Walton450
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

I have the black plug under the window buttons. Was hoping it would be a simple plug in and have the switch with new tweeter covers. Probable just leave it how it is. Thanks anyways

P.s what are the small blocks for?
iainlovatt
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

I made a loom and wired it in and now have standard electric folding wing mirrors! Bit of a ball ache! Very Happy
MrBSI
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: electic wing mirror conversion

Pop the electric window switch out & see if there is a small black plug not connected under there.

If its there then thats the plug for the mirrors & it means you have the correct cabin wiring loom.

You would then need a replacement combined window / mirror switch ( you need to get the correct type, look at the drivers switch, if it has an A for drivers one shot window you need a replacement switch with the A - if there is no A dont fit one that has the A because it will blow the fuse )

It sounds like you will need to replace both door wiring looms for ones that have the electric mirror plugs on.

You need to match the mirror plug colour on the loom to the ones on the mirrors as theres 2 different types of mirror plugs & there NOT interchangeable!
Walton450
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:09 am    Post subject: electic wing mirror conversion

im sure i have seen it on here before but i cant find it now. if any one can point me in the write direction. i just want to know if i can fit electic mirrors to a 52 plate which is a 2003 the cable block behind the cover has only 3 cable on divers and 2 cables on passanger. and is a small conector block.